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	Comments on: St. Paul cop on leave amid claims she lied to grand jury	</title>
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		By: Ed C		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44237</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 13:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44235&quot;&gt;Itty&lt;/a&gt;.

Rule number one is never to give consent to a search.  The moment you do, you lose constitutional protections and any Fourth Amendment defense.  Police have been known to plant evidence (gasp, that can&#039;t be).  They will often use the &quot;what are you hiding&quot; ruse to obtain consent.  The point is not to resist authority, but to remind those in authority as to the limits of that authority.

Veritas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44235">Itty</a>.</p>
<p>Rule number one is never to give consent to a search.  The moment you do, you lose constitutional protections and any Fourth Amendment defense.  Police have been known to plant evidence (gasp, that can&#8217;t be).  They will often use the &#8220;what are you hiding&#8221; ruse to obtain consent.  The point is not to resist authority, but to remind those in authority as to the limits of that authority.</p>
<p>Veritas.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-2/#comment-44236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2021 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-2/#comment-44234&quot;&gt;DavidM&lt;/a&gt;.

David

Although there are and always have been some good cops around, when push comes to shove, almost no officer is going to side with a suspect. Case in point, the George Floyd case. I am glad I was not there as an officer. I know the feeling that something is not right but if you speak up, your career is over. You are in a &quot;No win&quot; situation. I saw this first hand so many times that I asked to be transferred out of patrol.

I LOVED patrol. I loved to stop and talk to people and let them know they could trust me and that all cops were not bad. But when you are forced to choose between a fellow officer and a civilian, you are put in a situation that someone is going to hate you whichever way you go.

We hear the &quot;Thin blue line&quot; mentioned. Well the line is NOT thin. If you are not with the police then you are the enemy. (Not my words). A lot of officers have a mentality that they are in a battle field on every shift and all the civilians are potential felons that just haven&#039;t been caught yet.

And do not even get me started on all the jokes you had to endure on a shift. I heard so many racial jokes that I became numb to them. Sex jokes, racial jokes, Jokes about woman and then of course were making fun of handicap people. We would go on a call with someone who had cerebral palsy and some of the officers would be behind a patrol car making fun of the person .

I do not even know how I made it through the years I was on the force without doing something I regret to one of these so called professionals. AND this is not unique to police. I was also an EMT for many years and the amount of people that were made fun of was sickening. When I complained I was told that is how they cope with the day to day traumas they see??? Really ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-2/#comment-44234">DavidM</a>.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>Although there are and always have been some good cops around, when push comes to shove, almost no officer is going to side with a suspect. Case in point, the George Floyd case. I am glad I was not there as an officer. I know the feeling that something is not right but if you speak up, your career is over. You are in a &#8220;No win&#8221; situation. I saw this first hand so many times that I asked to be transferred out of patrol.</p>
<p>I LOVED patrol. I loved to stop and talk to people and let them know they could trust me and that all cops were not bad. But when you are forced to choose between a fellow officer and a civilian, you are put in a situation that someone is going to hate you whichever way you go.</p>
<p>We hear the &#8220;Thin blue line&#8221; mentioned. Well the line is NOT thin. If you are not with the police then you are the enemy. (Not my words). A lot of officers have a mentality that they are in a battle field on every shift and all the civilians are potential felons that just haven&#8217;t been caught yet.</p>
<p>And do not even get me started on all the jokes you had to endure on a shift. I heard so many racial jokes that I became numb to them. Sex jokes, racial jokes, Jokes about woman and then of course were making fun of handicap people. We would go on a call with someone who had cerebral palsy and some of the officers would be behind a patrol car making fun of the person .</p>
<p>I do not even know how I made it through the years I was on the force without doing something I regret to one of these so called professionals. AND this is not unique to police. I was also an EMT for many years and the amount of people that were made fun of was sickening. When I complained I was told that is how they cope with the day to day traumas they see??? Really ?</p>
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		By: Itty		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Itty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2021 00:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44233&quot;&gt;ABC&lt;/a&gt;.

In my case, not knowing anything about the law, I did agree for them to &quot;look though&quot; my laptop. But AFTER they did a forensic scan on my laptop and two external hard drives, they had me sign a consent to electronic search.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44233">ABC</a>.</p>
<p>In my case, not knowing anything about the law, I did agree for them to &#8220;look though&#8221; my laptop. But AFTER they did a forensic scan on my laptop and two external hard drives, they had me sign a consent to electronic search.</p>
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		By: DavidM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2021 00:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CherokeeJack 
 It’s good to hear your comments from a perspective of someone who has been on both sides of the fence. Your viewpoint is appreciated. Thanks.  Just wish it could be shared with a bigger audience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CherokeeJack<br />
 It’s good to hear your comments from a perspective of someone who has been on both sides of the fence. Your viewpoint is appreciated. Thanks.  Just wish it could be shared with a bigger audience.</p>
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		By: ABC		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ABC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44228&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a shame, it really is. I have a friend who is a cop and he says the same thing. He became a school resource officer so that he wouldn&#039;t get caught in the same situation, having to lie to cover someone else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44228">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a shame, it really is. I have a friend who is a cop and he says the same thing. He became a school resource officer so that he wouldn&#8217;t get caught in the same situation, having to lie to cover someone else.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-2/#comment-44232</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 14:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something else I thought of that I keep forgetting to mention. Isn&#039;t it odd that some states have no statue of limitations on sex offenses.

And yet when I tried to go back and challenge some of my charges with new evidence, I was told by the judge &quot;Too much time has passed, the statue of limitations has expired&quot;.

Well I tried to file in while locked up and I was told &quot;Wait until you get released&quot;. Yeah I was set up to fail. Such dishonesty from the courts. Great examples of integrity and the oaths that you took.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else I thought of that I keep forgetting to mention. Isn&#8217;t it odd that some states have no statue of limitations on sex offenses.</p>
<p>And yet when I tried to go back and challenge some of my charges with new evidence, I was told by the judge &#8220;Too much time has passed, the statue of limitations has expired&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well I tried to file in while locked up and I was told &#8220;Wait until you get released&#8221;. Yeah I was set up to fail. Such dishonesty from the courts. Great examples of integrity and the oaths that you took.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 14:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44222&quot;&gt;DavidM&lt;/a&gt;.

David

Well if they are admitting that, the guy is going to get a pay day like no other. But that still does not give him back those missed 43 years. And speaking from experience, prison does something to you.  I did not let it change my core goodness, but it did open my eyes to the evil that walks among us.

Not all of the bad guys were the inmates. I saw prison guards do unspeakable things to people, in fact it nearly happened to me. I thank God every day for getting me out of prison with all my fingers and toes and no extra scars.

I also saw how easy it was to go in with a 5 to 10 year sentence and end up being in their for 20. Just like cops there were good and bad correction officers. I still remember one Sgt. who was a big ole Teddy bear and he loved us all to death. He use to sneak us extra food in the dining room lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44222">DavidM</a>.</p>
<p>David</p>
<p>Well if they are admitting that, the guy is going to get a pay day like no other. But that still does not give him back those missed 43 years. And speaking from experience, prison does something to you.  I did not let it change my core goodness, but it did open my eyes to the evil that walks among us.</p>
<p>Not all of the bad guys were the inmates. I saw prison guards do unspeakable things to people, in fact it nearly happened to me. I thank God every day for getting me out of prison with all my fingers and toes and no extra scars.</p>
<p>I also saw how easy it was to go in with a 5 to 10 year sentence and end up being in their for 20. Just like cops there were good and bad correction officers. I still remember one Sgt. who was a big ole Teddy bear and he loved us all to death. He use to sneak us extra food in the dining room lol</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 14:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44227&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Bob

It makes you wonder sometimes if law enforcement has some dirt on some of those judges. &quot;Make the case go our way or we will bring up &quot;That incident&quot;. &quot;You know the one&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44227">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
<p>It makes you wonder sometimes if law enforcement has some dirt on some of those judges. &#8220;Make the case go our way or we will bring up &#8220;That incident&#8221;. &#8220;You know the one&#8221;.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 14:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44223&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

Maestro

That is one of the top 50 most bizarre stories I have ever read.

Ok maybe in the last month. There has been a lot of weird stuff goin on lately. I think the World is going to Hell in a hand basket. The registry might end up being the least of our problems eventually.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44223">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>Maestro</p>
<p>That is one of the top 50 most bizarre stories I have ever read.</p>
<p>Ok maybe in the last month. There has been a lot of weird stuff goin on lately. I think the World is going to Hell in a hand basket. The registry might end up being the least of our problems eventually.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44226&quot;&gt;ABC&lt;/a&gt;.

ABC

As a former cop, I can tell you cops will lie to their own Mother if it means saving their jobs or saving a case from collapsing.  On numerous cases I refused to testify because I knew I could not lie to cover other officers butts. Some called me out for not telling on them but then I would have gotten a beat down in a dark alley somewhere.

My hard, but necessary solution was to resign. I could no longer take the nightmares and bad nights sleep. Not all cops are like that. But for every good cop, I would say the years take a toll on a lot of them and turn them.  I use to have a debate with other officers on the pros and cons of a big department vs. a small department.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/st-paul-cop-on-leave-amid-claims-she-lied-to-grand-jury/comment-page-1/#comment-44226">ABC</a>.</p>
<p>ABC</p>
<p>As a former cop, I can tell you cops will lie to their own Mother if it means saving their jobs or saving a case from collapsing.  On numerous cases I refused to testify because I knew I could not lie to cover other officers butts. Some called me out for not telling on them but then I would have gotten a beat down in a dark alley somewhere.</p>
<p>My hard, but necessary solution was to resign. I could no longer take the nightmares and bad nights sleep. Not all cops are like that. But for every good cop, I would say the years take a toll on a lot of them and turn them.  I use to have a debate with other officers on the pros and cons of a big department vs. a small department.</p>
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