Comments on: State Department Files Motion to Dismiss IML Lawsuit

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 26 Nov 2025 21:02:02 +0000

So is this going to be yet another retroactive law put on the books? Been a PFR for about 26 years now with no troubles, have every one of my rights, 7 kids, and doing pretty well for myself and family considering. Too broke to petition to be removed from the SOR. New punishments get added all too often. When will it end?

By: RayO

RayO — Fri, 04 May 2018 11:51:50 +0000

In reply to Jm. I've always argued that it's ridiculous to face criminal penalties for violation of civil liability. Legislators are saying that the imposition of responsibility to register, by itself, represents a civil liability. It's only when you don't do it that it becomes a crime. If you lose money in a civil law suit or get a parking ticket, and then you refuse to pay, and ignore (or don't receive or forget about) court orders to appear before a judge re: the matter, you can be arrested.

By: Jm

Jm — Thu, 03 May 2018 23:48:10 +0000

In reply to RayO. A civil penalty cannot be enforced by a penal law i thought. The penalty is civil but the penalty is enforced under a law enforcement mandate

By: AIB

AIB — Thu, 03 May 2018 22:50:07 +0000

In reply to RayO. Thank you for the response. I actually never realized the list was a civil issue. Which sends me to another question...doesn’t a violation of someone who stops registering send them straight to jail? If so, how can that be if it’s a civil issue? I’m sure this has been discussed before. If someone knows which topic I should look for on this site I’d appreciate it.

By: RayO

RayO — Thu, 03 May 2018 21:27:33 +0000

In reply to AIB. As long as the courts consider registration to be a CIVIL liability, it can't be considered ex-post facto, since that only applies to CRIMINAL penalties.

By: AIB

AIB — Thu, 03 May 2018 15:31:46 +0000

Hello all, I am really getting tired of these new laws popping up to add more fuel to the fire. I understand taking preventative measures and keeping children safe but I am dumbfounded on how a “criminal act” (I say with quotes for those who suffer because the wrong charges were issued and they should not even be on the list) which happened 20 years ago can continue to be re-punished over and over again because of new laws. I know I’m preaching to the choir but why doesn’t ex post facto apply or what feels like double jeopardy? Where does it say in the statues SOs are subject to any future law someone can come up with?

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 01 May 2018 13:21:06 +0000

The state department they are talking about here is the U.S. state department (DOS) ? Didn’t they say something at some point that IML wasn’t really needed because they were already sending out notifications to other countries. Or something along those lines ? Could of swear I read something like that a while back.

By: John

John — Tue, 01 May 2018 13:17:05 +0000

andddd of course they did. They can’t just roll over and look soft. Although I wish they did.

Anyhow, best of luck to Janice/ACSOL and hope they get a win out of this for all of us.

By: Florida Action Committee

Florida Action Committee — Tue, 01 May 2018 12:52:37 +0000

In reply to MJ. one of the objectives, correct.

By: MJ

MJ — Tue, 01 May 2018 12:32:01 +0000

So the lawsuit filed by Janice is ultimately to get the State Dept to take the identifier off of our passports?