Dustin,

When I said “legitimate” in describing court ordered and probation office supervised polygraph testing, I meant that the examiner would develop his own questions in a “legitimate” test rather than being fed questions by a probation officer and treatment provider that teamed up to make examinees fail. I thought that was clear in my previous post. I apologize if it wasn’t. Let me be perfectly clear in this comment: After the US Probation Office and ITM treatment provider were caught rigging the tests by an ethical examiner in my situation, that examiner and the others that followed developed their own questions for monitoring and specific issue purposes. I passed each one of them in more than 20 occasions of being tested over the course of a decade on supervised release. This is the difference between a rigged system designed to make one fail (and potentially never get off supervision or worse, being sent back to prison) and a system where the examinee has the opportunity to take a fair test administered by an ethical examiner. Faced with my clean polygraphs and compliance, the US Probation Office made a very unusual and extremely rare decision at that time to go forward and ask the sentencing judge to immediately terminate my LIFE sentence of supervised release. Imagine being that judge: You sentence a guy who maintains his innocence to federal prison and a LIFE term of supervised release, only to be met 10 years later with a request from your own probation officer to terminate the supervision immediately because the defendant proved himself to be truthful in government issued polygraph sessions AFTER being kicked out of the ITM group. I can only guess this deeply embarrassed the court and that is why the judge sealed my patterns of success from the public record. This is the rigged system I routinely criticize, and for good reason.

If it can be managed financially, individual therapists can be a great deal better than the State contracted group settings. Too many do not understand that they DO have the option of seeking court mandated treatment elsewhere, sometimes for not a great deal more money than what they’re already paying

Polygraph conclusions aren’t pre-determined. Only polygraph questions are pre-determined. The answers are controlled by you.

1. Actual recidivism rates of convicted sex criminals – less than 5% in most studies – should indicate that the sex crimes were the result of poor judgement, not some underlying, incurable mental illness or deficiency. Poor judgment is NOT a mental health issue; the problem is nearly always solved by sufficient consequences, not months and years of “treatment.”

2. “Sex offender treatment” providers by and large are mere substance abuse counselors substituting sex and children for drugs and alcohol in their programs. There are numerous problems with this, but the two major ones are that a substance abuse counselor is no more qualified to treat an actual, bona fide sexual disorder than a ecologist is qualified to perform open-heart surgery. And a program can hardly be considered successful when the overwhelming majority of clients end up on more drug charges within a year of completing said program.

3. In Georgia (and most other states, I’m sure), the state can petition the courts to impose involuntary mental health treatment provided it can show cause and on the recommendation of a LICENSED psychiatrist or physician. First, the statute clearly states that the commission of a crime, by itself, is insufficient to show cause. Second, the recommendation of a licensed psychiatrist or physician NEVER HAPPENS in Georgia, and likely not in any other state either. Yet, “treatment” is mandated at sentencing, both in prison and afterward. “Treatment” is not incentivised as it is in, say, substance abuse or domestic violence matters, where probation is terminated at the conclusion of “treatment.” Rather, “sex offender treatment” continues until the end of near end of one’s criminal sentence for the most part.

That is not to say that there aren’t some truly sick bastards on (and off) the registry that really do need serious treatment or confinement. Nor is it to say that some recipients of “sex offender treatment” don’t get something positive from it. It’s simply to say that the court-ordered nonsense is a joke.

4. I completed my stupid “treatment” program 5 years ago by submitting formal ethics complaints against the providers with every single civilian mental health organization of which they were a member. After that, I was put on the rocket ship to completion. One (somewhat predicted) “inconclusive” polygraph, mandated participation reduced to once per month, and one (really predicted) “passed” polygraph later and I was done. The probation office tried to impose further polygraph testing until I told them I wanted it in writing and take it to court. It was never brought up again.

There’s no such thing as a “legitimate” polygraph. All polygraphs are simply interrogations conducted to arrive at a pre-determined conclusion. Polygraphs are not lie detectors, nor can they ever be.

Wow same type of thing happened to me. The victim lied to me on social media. I thought she was an adult. She sure looked like one when me ment in person. Everything done was consensual. No one forced anyone to do anything to no one. And I had no past defenses at all. This whole S.O.R. is messed up. Hardly no S.O.R. repeats. Most of tge new crimes are non- S.O.R.

Jacob

No, but we do have two different designations and could be considered tiers. Offender and Predator are the two designations. Some people could care less which designation, as they hate all of us. But if just an offender, you have a “Little bit” less restrictions.

Some states have a 3-tier system, with the lowest able to be removed from registration in some states much easier in the lowest tier and the top tier near impossible. Also, funny that every state seems to have different rules, as long as they meet the requirements of government compliance.

There is no risk tiering in Florida.