There has never been a government or religion that was effective in providing peace or civility. We have and continue to give up our freedom to people that try to convince us they can fix our problems. They want us to pay them and allow them show us how we are to live. We have to look inside our selves for the answers. Most people want to live in peace and raise family’s in love. It has always been difficult but our civilian approach has to change and we need to return to join together in our communities to fix things ourselves. As long as we think that we have to resort to paying government politicians to do what should be taken care of by volunteers we will remain hopeless and defenseless. Why have we allowed a system to be set up so that one man can become the most powerful man on earth ? Why would we think that we can expect one man to fix everything for us? Sounds silly doesn’t it?

We are to love the sinner but not be tolerant of the sin.

Karen, just remember that Christianity and religion are not the same. Religion can range anywhere from God worship to devil worship. Anything that replaces our concern for God, family and other people can become a religion. The worship of money, self aggrandizement, pleasure, and material has become a predominant ‘religion’ today. I believe that is why our society shows so little concern for others and why forgiveness has lost a place in society. By the way, forgiveness is a Christian trait. Many of our politicians claim the be ‘christians’…note small ‘c’…but the Christian trait of forgiveness is totally missing. The church one attends does not make one a Christian. The traits one exhibits…those that reflect God’s Words…are what helps us identify who is and isn’t a Christian.

Thank you Lee – actually I believe in the actual Christian values – for instance, that we should all be tolerant and love one another. However, all religions have deviated (at times) from that and used the power of religion to justify acts of intolerance and worse.

I agree – and I apologize to FAC for participating in the road leading to this discussion. It is hard. however, when ones’ buttons are pushed. 🙁 One of my pet peeves has always been those that profess to be Christians but in the same breath have intolerance for other children of God. Also, I have never ever understood why the idea that Catholics are not Christians has persisted in this age of knowledge. Thank you FAC for being tolerant…. 🙂

Karen, do not give up fighting the damage that religion has done to the world. Its time is well over and no longer needed in the modern world. Conservatives hypocritical fear of sex is what has caused nearly all of the ridiculous sex offender laws we have right now!

Please re-direct the comments to the topic.

Karen, I would love to reply to your comment on the reason the colonists came to America but I agree we must move on to subject matter that matters. It’s good to have an education in history but we must be cognizant of the source of history. For example, my nephew has a doctorate in finance and is a professor, but he still denies that the social security trust fund ever existed..go figure. The SS web site is not aware of this fact. Karen, have a good day…no, a fine Navy day!

Karen, you stated that “I am a Christian” but went on to say that you were born and raised as a Roman catholic and raised your children that way also.
Does that mean, you believe that Christianity and Catholicism are equivalents?

OK – no point in fighting among ourselves.