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	Comments on: Unnecessary Shaming: How Sex Offender Stigma Breaches the Irrelevant	</title>
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		By: jennie caldwell		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-4/#comment-20210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jennie caldwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2020 16:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You all need to visit the Women Against Registry website. Help her out and she can also answer your questions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all need to visit the Women Against Registry website. Help her out and she can also answer your questions.</p>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-4/#comment-20209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 19:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a reminder, can we please not use this platform to advocate breaking the law?  Even if meant as a joke, because you never know how someone might take it.

Pushing the Books out of a moving car, for example, as recently suggested below.  I get that it’s a joke, but perhaps not the funniest one, and someone will wrongly interpret that post as a threat.

I also get the impulse behind planned public acts of retribution (as suggested in the same post about pushing certain ppl out of a moving car), but please, whatever your planned public act of retribution is, just be sure, if you have not done so already, that that planned public act of retribution is within the law.

Call me a humorless party-pooping buzzkill (or equivalent) if you wish.  I’m just trying to manage risks to our position.  Personally, were I the moderator, I would have kept the offending post unpublished, but it’s not my platform.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a reminder, can we please not use this platform to advocate breaking the law?  Even if meant as a joke, because you never know how someone might take it.</p>
<p>Pushing the Books out of a moving car, for example, as recently suggested below.  I get that it’s a joke, but perhaps not the funniest one, and someone will wrongly interpret that post as a threat.</p>
<p>I also get the impulse behind planned public acts of retribution (as suggested in the same post about pushing certain ppl out of a moving car), but please, whatever your planned public act of retribution is, just be sure, if you have not done so already, that that planned public act of retribution is within the law.</p>
<p>Call me a humorless party-pooping buzzkill (or equivalent) if you wish.  I’m just trying to manage risks to our position.  Personally, were I the moderator, I would have kept the offending post unpublished, but it’s not my platform.</p>
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		By: Phys Ed		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phys Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20206&quot;&gt;Tom Swingholm&lt;/a&gt;.

Tom. you have the right idea about pushing back. It would help us immensely as well if NARSOL would publish a roster of all Congressional legislators who DID vote for these laws so we can know who to target for primaries when their terms come up for it and then lobby like hell for someone to challenge them with assurances of not only registrant support, but that of registrant families and relatives. This approach would work especially well in national elections.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20206">Tom Swingholm</a>.</p>
<p>Tom. you have the right idea about pushing back. It would help us immensely as well if NARSOL would publish a roster of all Congressional legislators who DID vote for these laws so we can know who to target for primaries when their terms come up for it and then lobby like hell for someone to challenge them with assurances of not only registrant support, but that of registrant families and relatives. This approach would work especially well in national elections.</p>
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		By: Dean		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20207</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20195&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;.

Push back? Yeah, I have a few ideas of how to &quot;PUSH BACK&quot; push those idiots Ron and Lauren Book out of a moving car. THEY ARE THE MAIN CAUSE OF THESE HATEFUL, FEAR BASED LAWS...I didn&#039;t do anything, yet but I&#039;m planning on a PUBLIC display of retribution, since my name and details are PUBLIC so will their punishment be PUBLIC. I was falsely accused of sexual battery against a mentally challenged woman. lying asses...now im screwed for 10-15 years. Luckily I live in OHIO not FLORIDA, ground zero for naming and shaming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20195">Jay</a>.</p>
<p>Push back? Yeah, I have a few ideas of how to &#8220;PUSH BACK&#8221; push those idiots Ron and Lauren Book out of a moving car. THEY ARE THE MAIN CAUSE OF THESE HATEFUL, FEAR BASED LAWS&#8230;I didn&#8217;t do anything, yet but I&#8217;m planning on a PUBLIC display of retribution, since my name and details are PUBLIC so will their punishment be PUBLIC. I was falsely accused of sexual battery against a mentally challenged woman. lying asses&#8230;now im screwed for 10-15 years. Luckily I live in OHIO not FLORIDA, ground zero for naming and shaming.</p>
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		By: Tom Swingholm		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20206</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Swingholm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2019 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20195&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;.

Jay, there are almost a million registered sex offenders in the US. most I&#039;ve talked to don&#039;t want to push because they don&#039;t want to bring more attention. I feel that if offenders United, found a Congressman that plays well with others, some good changes could happen. It would require some research though. To know which Senators apposed some of the current laws would be a good place to start.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20195">Jay</a>.</p>
<p>Jay, there are almost a million registered sex offenders in the US. most I&#8217;ve talked to don&#8217;t want to push because they don&#8217;t want to bring more attention. I feel that if offenders United, found a Congressman that plays well with others, some good changes could happen. It would require some research though. To know which Senators apposed some of the current laws would be a good place to start.</p>
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		By: Tom Swingholm		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20205</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Swingholm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2019 23:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20196&quot;&gt;JEV&lt;/a&gt;.

I think laws should focus on rehabilitation.  In many cases the victim does not hate the perpetrator but just wants the abuse to stop. I know several men who abused their own children and as much as society wants to hate this evil monster, the victim doesn&#039;t want him to have his life ruined. They want the perpetrator to stop doing those things and in many cases would give anything to be part of the perpetrator&#039;s life. Media never talked about what the victim wants if the victim doesn&#039;t want to hate the person who committed the crime. And in fact what I&#039;ve noticed the media only reports on the ones that they can paint as horrible monsters.  If the victim said she/he doesn&#039;t want the perpetrator to get a lot of time in prison and he gets a fairly soft sentence,  the media&#039;s agenda is to get people mad about the light sentence and won&#039;t even mention that is what the victim wanted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20196">JEV</a>.</p>
<p>I think laws should focus on rehabilitation.  In many cases the victim does not hate the perpetrator but just wants the abuse to stop. I know several men who abused their own children and as much as society wants to hate this evil monster, the victim doesn&#8217;t want him to have his life ruined. They want the perpetrator to stop doing those things and in many cases would give anything to be part of the perpetrator&#8217;s life. Media never talked about what the victim wants if the victim doesn&#8217;t want to hate the person who committed the crime. And in fact what I&#8217;ve noticed the media only reports on the ones that they can paint as horrible monsters.  If the victim said she/he doesn&#8217;t want the perpetrator to get a lot of time in prison and he gets a fairly soft sentence,  the media&#8217;s agenda is to get people mad about the light sentence and won&#8217;t even mention that is what the victim wanted.</p>
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		By: Tom Swingholm		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-4/#comment-20204</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Swingholm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2019 23:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Being a registered sex offender also makes you automatically a target of false allegations. People often assume things against offenders. I used to not worry so much about it because my case was sex with a 17 year old when i was 26. I&#039;m 55 now, and the last few years media has caused this fear based world. Now people look at me as if I committed the crime yesterday. New laws all of the restrict our freedom. Legislators know how to make laws that ruin your life but in a way it&#039;s deemed constitutional.  Most days, these days, I pray for death. I really dont want to live in this world. I couldn&#039;t do it myself but sure don&#039;t hate the idea of not waking up some morning. Sorry be such a downer but I really see no hope for offenders. No women will ever love me, no good job will ever hire me, and I have to live in a shit hole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a registered sex offender also makes you automatically a target of false allegations. People often assume things against offenders. I used to not worry so much about it because my case was sex with a 17 year old when i was 26. I&#8217;m 55 now, and the last few years media has caused this fear based world. Now people look at me as if I committed the crime yesterday. New laws all of the restrict our freedom. Legislators know how to make laws that ruin your life but in a way it&#8217;s deemed constitutional.  Most days, these days, I pray for death. I really dont want to live in this world. I couldn&#8217;t do it myself but sure don&#8217;t hate the idea of not waking up some morning. Sorry be such a downer but I really see no hope for offenders. No women will ever love me, no good job will ever hire me, and I have to live in a shit hole.</p>
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		By: luke schmitz		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20203</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[luke schmitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 22:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yeah the registry makes me depressed all the tim e  i caught a attemted statutary rape cahrge in 2012e  i was fuked up at a party  and supposebly asked a 15 yr old to come bathroom and have sex   took a plea misdemenor 1129 all suspended six months in jail  now i gotta register once a yr for ten yrs over bullshit  never F***** a girl touched or nothing    sad life  think suicide alot  stigma]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah the registry makes me depressed all the tim e  i caught a attemted statutary rape cahrge in 2012e  i was fuked up at a party  and supposebly asked a 15 yr old to come bathroom and have sex   took a plea misdemenor 1129 all suspended six months in jail  now i gotta register once a yr for ten yrs over bullshit  never F***** a girl touched or nothing    sad life  think suicide alot  stigma</p>
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		By: Phys Ed		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phys Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 04:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I picked up my charge in South Florida back in 2007.It was a non-violent/non-contact offense. After serving 7 years of an 8 year sentence I was released to go home to Illinois here I was born and raised. The laws there are similar to other states but since I&#039;m on LIFETIME supervision and LIFETIME registration, that also means a lifetime requirement for &quot;treatment&quot; and polygraph examinations, which even if one passes, the tests continue as &quot;maintenance&quot;. Group is 30 dollars a pop and the polygraph tests are 360 a pop. I have to live on 13,000 a year combined social security and small VA pension. I told them finally &quot;This &quot;Treatment&quot;is what&#039;s insane! I&#039;m outa here!&quot; The Central ILLinois Probation Dept selling this &quot;government slave&quot; south back to Florida over this even though I&#039;ve complied with all other restrictions laid upon me. Now I hear that once back there, I will have to replace my Illinois driver&#039;s license with a Florida one that is stamped with some sort of giant &quot;SO&quot; identifying me as a registrant. It would seen to me that the sum total of all the liberty infringements, bills of attainder type punishment and all the other restrictions on residence, travel, prohibitions about where and when we are not supposed to be seen or heard place us in the position of Dred Scott back in 1857. We seem to have no rights that ANYBODY is bound to respect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picked up my charge in South Florida back in 2007.It was a non-violent/non-contact offense. After serving 7 years of an 8 year sentence I was released to go home to Illinois here I was born and raised. The laws there are similar to other states but since I&#8217;m on LIFETIME supervision and LIFETIME registration, that also means a lifetime requirement for &#8220;treatment&#8221; and polygraph examinations, which even if one passes, the tests continue as &#8220;maintenance&#8221;. Group is 30 dollars a pop and the polygraph tests are 360 a pop. I have to live on 13,000 a year combined social security and small VA pension. I told them finally &#8220;This &#8220;Treatment&#8221;is what&#8217;s insane! I&#8217;m outa here!&#8221; The Central ILLinois Probation Dept selling this &#8220;government slave&#8221; south back to Florida over this even though I&#8217;ve complied with all other restrictions laid upon me. Now I hear that once back there, I will have to replace my Illinois driver&#8217;s license with a Florida one that is stamped with some sort of giant &#8220;SO&#8221; identifying me as a registrant. It would seen to me that the sum total of all the liberty infringements, bills of attainder type punishment and all the other restrictions on residence, travel, prohibitions about where and when we are not supposed to be seen or heard place us in the position of Dred Scott back in 1857. We seem to have no rights that ANYBODY is bound to respect.</p>
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		By: DOUG		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/unnecessary-shaming-how-sex-offender-stigma-breaches-the-irrelevant/comment-page-3/#comment-20201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOUG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 02:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By all means,lets fight back. Pull no punches. They   won&#039;t !]]></description>
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