I agree but I am not going to be the one who takes the falls for going up against the sheriffs department. I know what they are capable of. Things they can do to you legally that hurt just as bad. I pissed them off in another county I lived in and even though I was not required to do notifications to neighbors, the cops did it for me with flyers to every house in my neighborhood when I lived in another there. It was so bad after that , that I moved.

And that is not all. I had the local police come by 2 to 3 times a week. Then the Deputies would come by. And on one occasion even the FDLE came by and did a no knock warrant which resulted in them finding nothing. (Surprised they didn’t try and plant something, Thank the Lord)

When I tried to file a complaint, it made it worse. I have never been a whimp and there are certain things I would die fighting for. But when I bring heat on my own family, I choose to fight in the shadows. I take care of my elderly parents the best I can and getting arrested again is NOT an option I can risk.

CherokeeJ….Legally, How can ‘they’ put a Yellow Sticker on Your Door, as There is No State or Federal Statute(s) Concerning Compliance Checks, on persons forced to register?

Absent a Codified Statute, How can do this?

Why Allow ‘Them’ to Continue to take and Inch and increase it to a mile?

How Can You be Compliant when there is No Codified Statute?

I try my best to stay “Off” of their radar. The old saying “The squeaky wheel gets the oil” also relates to people on the registry. Just replace oil with handcuffs or a hard time. I am not a robot who just does what I am told, but I get the compliance checks out of the way as fast and professionally as possible then do not get bothered again for 6 months. I have never had a surprise visit.

Only time I had what I consider a problem is, when I was not home and the officer put a yellow sticker on my front door that was embarrassing. Have no idea how many saw it before we got home.

Same thing with registration. The workers there are usually pretty cool and want to get you in and out without incident. Only once seen a guy almost get arrested. Was shocked they did not arrest him. He refused to sign (Which was a minor thing) but was throwing the paperwork, cussing out the officers and banging on the window and yelling *uck you at them. That was 2 years ago and never saw the guy again. Who knows what happened.

Believe me, I hate and disagree with the registry and compliance checks as much as anyone as Ex post facto punishment. Especially for anyone no longer on paperwork. But as long as the courts screw us, we will suffer.

There is a spreading activism out there all about standing up for rights by exercising them. Cop watchers, 1st Amendment Audits, open-carry, etc.

While for me it is easier to compromise to keep the peace, especially since my assigned deputy is very professional and courteous, there absolutely is value in standing up and exercising your rights for the good of your own freedom as well as society at large.

The way I interpret the current case law that I’ve seen (minimal at best) is that LE are not to be snooping around on your property, and that goes just as much for persons on the registry as anyone else as long as the person is not on supervision. If a person on the registry decides to erect a tall fence and make it clear that the public in general is not welcome, compliance check LE officers must also abide by this. There is nothing in FS 943.0435 that gives LE authority to demand a gate code or special access to property.

All in all, if a registered person decided they wanted to make compliance checks as difficult as possible, there’s nothing Constitutional that LE could do to stop them. However, that doesn’t always stop LE. Some respect the Constitutions, some don’t. But, you can have your day in court if it comes to that. Goes without saying to make sure you are willing to take on that burden before putting up your barriers.

“Why create more drama than that?”

Because “make good trouble”. I’m sure you know who said that and the history. It fits well.

One reason to “create more drama” is to help ensure that the Oppression Lists (OLs) are as expensive, cumbersome, and annoying as possible. EVERYONE must suffer. Everyone. Especially anyone who thinks the OLs are acceptable. It should be a goal to train people so that if they just hear “registry”, they throw up.

Personally, I’m not going to allow the OLs to exist without them causing as much harm as possible. But I’m not going to restrict that harm to just things that are related to the OLs. It will continue to be widespread. The OLs must cost. The “compliance checks” are just a minor, minor part of it all. There is much worse harm going on than just making those annoying for everyone.

Having said that, if the law enforcement criminals don’t try to come around my home very often and they call me first, I’ll usually greet them. But I never pass up an opportunity to tell them how dumb, useless, and counterproductive the OLs are. That should be a consistent, constant, constant, constant message, for every occasion.

Truth

I do not think anyone on earth is qualified to say what percentage of any people are good or bad. I base my judgements on how people treat me and others. I know when I worked in law enforcement there were 3 categories of people (In my opinion).

The good, the bad and the neutral. The good ones stood out and treated everyone with respect , other officers and the public.
The bad ones treated the public like crap on the bottom of their shoes and “Everyone” was a suspect, unless they were a cop. And, many of them treated other cops bad. For example when I showed compassion for homeless people I was called a wuss.
Then there are the neutrals. Those were the cops that were not memorable. The blended in and didn’t want any trouble. They hardly did their job and were just trying to make it to retirement. They had a “Take it or leave it” attitude. A lot of them if you got into a fight with a suspect, they would stand there and watch you get a beat down. Once you got the suspect under control, they would come over and act like they were concerned. The tell you, “When you write your report, leave my name out of it”.

Last year I got pulled over for barely making it under a red light (it turned red as I went under it). The officer came back to my vehicle and said ” Do you know you are on the registry?” (DUH) I held my cool and explained the bad rap I got and said I was very sorry and I have a “Safe driver” on my license. I also said I support the police and appreciate all he and others do. I never got sassy with him.

He threw the license at me and said “Slow the Hell down”. I did not get a ticket. Most would have yelled “Jerk” but I thought he was awesome. He could have given me a ticket based on not liking registrants but chose to give me a break. I am calling him a good one.

Also, he was a deputy and not a city cop. Harder to get out of tickets from a city cop. This deputy was not a designated traffic officer (Those are the motorcycle cops, motors unit) so sure he just wanted to get back in his way.

It is not trespassing for a person to come from the street and walk up to your front door. So, right, a “No Trespass” sign would not be useful to stop that. But it’s not necessary. All PFRs should have their properties fenced or walled-off.

The Oppression Lists put you and your family in danger. Your property should be fenced off just for personal protection. But it will also keep the law enforcement criminals (LECs) away. Depending on where you live, it is not hard to find a sufficient amount of acreage where the perimeter can be completely wooded. Then you only need a small opening for a road into it. Gate that off and you are done.

A person who lives in an apartment or something similar could have problems. But I do think/hope/wish that some kind of sign could keep people away from your front door. Would just have to figure out the right wording.

If I lived in an apartment and LECs bothered me too much, I would just stop answering the door. They could stand out there and bang on it for an hour for all I cared. But if they only came around once or twice a year, I’d probably just let them see my face. Probably show them an ID. But that’s it.

Truth

We have not one but FOUR no trespassing signs on our property plainly displayed as soon as you approach. These are not to keep law enforcement off but everyone else who wants to do us harm and harass.

Having said that, All the religious groups come to the door, All the salesmen come to the door, it is maddening. They try and say either they didn’t see them or that sales people like Spectrum etc are exempt. ?????? If I called you to come do something you are exempt, otherwise leave now.

We now no longer come to the door. We view the security camera and when the people leave we go out to see what they left on the door that can help out our efforts to promote recycling bin usage.

I like the sign I have seen in some people’s yards. It says something to the effect:

We are broke
We already found Jesus
We already voted
We bought everything we need
Go away !

JACOB

“THERE IS NO CODIFIED FEDERAL OR STATE STATUTE FOR THOSE FORCED TO REGISTER OR ANY OTHER PERSON(S) THAT ARE NOT ON PROBATION OR ETC TO ALLOW ANYONE ON YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS A COURT ORDERED SEARCH WARRANT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY A COURT OF REASONABLE JURISDICTION”

THE AFOREMENTIONED QUOTATION IS FROM A RETIRED FEDERAL JUDGE, WHOM LIVES NEAR ME!

WHY GIVE THEM AN INCH…YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT….

NO ONE PERSON CAN TRESPASS SIGN ON YOUR PROPERTY

NO ONE BELONGS ON YOUR PROPERTY…YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT

Well, I live in a townhouse with a gated private patio. On the gate on every house, there is a no trespassing and no soliciting sign. The sheriff’s walk right through the gate to my front door every time. When asked, they said it didn’t apply to them because by law, being on the registry means they have to have access to verify residency. They said that if I had an electric gate, the law demands I give them the access number.

I don’t know if it is true, but that is what they said.