Comments on: VIDEO: Volusia County Council Considering Banishment Ordinances for People on the Sex Offender Registry

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:53:37 +0000

Per the U.S constitution (Make what you want of it, that is what lawyers and judges do)

Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 02:27:33 +0000

In reply to Eugene V Debs. Cause this plan has proven to be effective????

By: CL

CL — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 00:24:10 +0000

In reply to Eugene V Debs. Ask for something extreme so that the thing you really want will seem more acceptable....

By: Eugene V Debs

Eugene V Debs — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 22:46:24 +0000

By: Facts should matter

Facts should matter — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 15:39:06 +0000

In reply to JJJJ.

Liberty is a nebulous concept. Just look how that hate group “Mon’s for Liberty” has co-opted and hijacked “liberty” and radicalized conspiracy theories for their own personal message of entitlement.

They don’t want “liberty for all,” because that would take away their hate messaging and make them irrelevant. They can’t exist without marginalizing and witch hunting out groups.

They’re just coat-tailing the “child safety” propaganda train to make their message appear relevant.

By: JJJJ

JJJJ — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:12:05 +0000

This nation is based on LIBERTY (that means freedom). It should be an extremely rigorous task to restrict any liberty, whatsoever! It should be an extremely difficult, uphill battle to restrict the freedom (Liberty) of any citizen (such as taking away the right of ordinary persons, of any age, to swing on a county-owned swingset). I was glad to hear such a lively debate, but not one of these men pointed to the US flag behind the dais nor mentioned the words “liberty” or “freedom”. They simply discussed the effect of a new ordinance instead of the PRINCIPLES that must guide any sort of discussion of this sort – namely, the Liberty and Freedom that this nation was founded on! —Furthermore, removing the available dwelling units in the county ( by 1/3rd) of returning citizens who have completely and entirely paid their debts to society, when evidence of the efficacy of this is lacking would have been extremely unjust. I am glad that these fine people demanded evidence first!

By: Hopeful

Hopeful — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:49:53 +0000

I watched it live, for a long long time. But I think even though they decided to look at it again it’s not necessarily a loss yet. They said the area eligible for registrants to live would be cut by a third. If they tried to make people move because the new address restrictions that is a huge law suit. So it’s not great to think of it in terms like that, because people have to suffer until the courts get it right. But I really think this is important because at least one of them is concerned but losing that much area.

By: Tereto

Tereto — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:12:13 +0000

When rational arguments, take a backseat to irrational law’s.

By: Riff Raff

Riff Raff — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 01:48:27 +0000

5 years ago, interesting read,,,,,,,,,,,,,
https://freakonomics.com/podcast/making-sex-offenders-pay-and-pay-and-pay-and-pay/

By: CherokeeJack

CherokeeJack — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:50:30 +0000

Not sure making people move retroactively would hold up in the supreme court. That would 10,000% be punishment and any judge who disagrees should be disbarred and undergo a mental health evaluation. I am not kidding, just because you do not like us, you still have to do your job. If you are a judge and cannot uphold the law regardless of your feelings, you need to find another profession like working at Starbucks.
Retroactively kicking people out of their home for something that was done in the past, and for some decades ago should cause every council member to be removed. Most of us are not even on paper anymore.