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	Comments on: Visiting registrant arrested and held without bond after failing to register cell phone number	</title>
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		By: State Line Crosser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[State Line Crosser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2021 19:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45749&quot;&gt;State Line Crosser&lt;/a&gt;.

To clarify my point:
If I fail to register after crossing state lines I MAY be in violation of federal law as well as state statues.

This is absolutely correct— I may be in violation, and I may not be, which is why it’s best to find out the registration laws both in Florida and at your destination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45749">State Line Crosser</a>.</p>
<p>To clarify my point:<br />
If I fail to register after crossing state lines I MAY be in violation of federal law as well as state statues.</p>
<p>This is absolutely correct— I may be in violation, and I may not be, which is why it’s best to find out the registration laws both in Florida and at your destination.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 21:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45749&quot;&gt;State Line Crosser&lt;/a&gt;.

State line crosser

I will let you decide for yourself. Line #20 says, and I quote:


If I fail to register after crossing state lines I may be in violation of federal law as well as state statues.


There are 22 lines of registry requirements on my registration form that is 3 sheets if paper long. Front and back makes 6 pages
We have to sign their copy and our copy stating we have read and agree to comply.

It also says on the back not to throw away or destroy our copy as it is an official document.

Surprised we don&#039;t have to carry separate Sex offender ID cards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45749">State Line Crosser</a>.</p>
<p>State line crosser</p>
<p>I will let you decide for yourself. Line #20 says, and I quote:</p>
<p>If I fail to register after crossing state lines I may be in violation of federal law as well as state statues.</p>
<p>There are 22 lines of registry requirements on my registration form that is 3 sheets if paper long. Front and back makes 6 pages<br />
We have to sign their copy and our copy stating we have read and agree to comply.</p>
<p>It also says on the back not to throw away or destroy our copy as it is an official document.</p>
<p>Surprised we don&#8217;t have to carry separate Sex offender ID cards.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45750</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45748&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Anonymous

Thanks, it is always to not be the only one who discovered something. Your testimony at least backs up what I was saying. Mine was not posted on the way but on the paperwork they give you once you completed your re-registration.
Heck the way things are headed, we may have to register if we enter another county.

I was going to say at least that proves I am not crazy but, yeah I am kind of crazy. Crazy from so many years on the Salem witch hunt list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45748">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Anonymous</p>
<p>Thanks, it is always to not be the only one who discovered something. Your testimony at least backs up what I was saying. Mine was not posted on the way but on the paperwork they give you once you completed your re-registration.<br />
Heck the way things are headed, we may have to register if we enter another county.</p>
<p>I was going to say at least that proves I am not crazy but, yeah I am kind of crazy. Crazy from so many years on the Salem witch hunt list.</p>
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		By: State Line Crosser		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[State Line Crosser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 17:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45748&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Correct. If you cross state lines without following registration laws, you are subject to state or Federal prosecution.

It does NOT say that crossing state lines in itself is illegal, only that there are certain additional laws to be aware of.  Depends where you’re going, how long you’re staying, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45748">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Correct. If you cross state lines without following registration laws, you are subject to state or Federal prosecution.</p>
<p>It does NOT say that crossing state lines in itself is illegal, only that there are certain additional laws to be aware of.  Depends where you’re going, how long you’re staying, etc.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 15:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45745&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

This was also displayed in the Duval office that if you cross state lines without registering you could be convinced of a federal law and state law.

Can we get some clarification on this, is this new?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45745">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>This was also displayed in the Duval office that if you cross state lines without registering you could be convinced of a federal law and state law.</p>
<p>Can we get some clarification on this, is this new?</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-2/#comment-45740&quot;&gt;Maestro&lt;/a&gt;.

Maestro

come on man, wake up. The answer is simple. It is because &quot;Nothing&quot; related to those with a sex offense is punishment. The list includes things&quot;

Not being able to answer our own door during Halloween

Having marks of the beast place on our driver&#039;s licenses

Having 2 to 4 times a year go in person to re-register even though we are not on probation.
 And many more times if we so much as get a new pair of shoes we did not register (Being sarcastic with that one)

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that eventually they will be allowed to add us back onto lifetime probation. Some states or cities already require a &quot;Forced&quot; and &quot;Required&quot; registration fee.

I have a list of at least 50 things written down for when I go before a judge soon to try and get off the registry. I have been on it since it started in 1997 for charges from 1991. With, according to the Gestapo no chance of ever getting off the registry even if I die. (Maybe a family member will have to register me when I pass)

One last thing, you are mis-using the word logic. That word does not exist in the World of registries. If there was any &quot;Logic&quot; applied, there would be no registries. So logic goes out the window with anything related to our situations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-2/#comment-45740">Maestro</a>.</p>
<p>Maestro</p>
<p>come on man, wake up. The answer is simple. It is because &#8220;Nothing&#8221; related to those with a sex offense is punishment. The list includes things&#8221;</p>
<p>Not being able to answer our own door during Halloween</p>
<p>Having marks of the beast place on our driver&#8217;s licenses</p>
<p>Having 2 to 4 times a year go in person to re-register even though we are not on probation.<br />
 And many more times if we so much as get a new pair of shoes we did not register (Being sarcastic with that one)</p>
<p>I could go on and on, but the fact remains that eventually they will be allowed to add us back onto lifetime probation. Some states or cities already require a &#8220;Forced&#8221; and &#8220;Required&#8221; registration fee.</p>
<p>I have a list of at least 50 things written down for when I go before a judge soon to try and get off the registry. I have been on it since it started in 1997 for charges from 1991. With, according to the Gestapo no chance of ever getting off the registry even if I die. (Maybe a family member will have to register me when I pass)</p>
<p>One last thing, you are mis-using the word logic. That word does not exist in the World of registries. If there was any &#8220;Logic&#8221; applied, there would be no registries. So logic goes out the window with anything related to our situations.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45746</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45741&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Anonymous

As former law enforcement, I can confirm what you are saying. It goes even further than that, they can &quot;Make up&quot; any excuse they want for why you were pulled over. Once when I was off duty in my own car and clothes, I got pulled over by a state trooper. I handed him my license and registration without a word about me being a cop.

When he came back to the car, he handed me a ticket for doing 70 in a 50 MPH zone. I was doing the speed limit and he told me  it was my word against his. I then showed him my badge and said I would be going to court in my uniform and asking the judge to show proof of such an accusation.

He then chewed me out for not telling him I was a cop. I said &quot;Does it matter, if you are doing this to everyone you should be ashamed&quot;. I said &quot;Just give me the damn ticket and I will see you in court&quot;. He tore up the ticket but the next day I got called into my supervisors office to explain why I tried to use my job to get out of a ticket?

I explained the entire story to him and stated &quot;have him come in and let us both take a polygraph and see who was lying&quot;. The issue was dropped but just shows some cops will lie to God Himself to save their own skins or to &quot;Beef up&quot; their ticket #&#039;s. And yes, some department use to give bonuses to officers who wrote more tickets. Part of that money went to the state and the rest went to the department that wrote the tickets.

I probably wrote the least amount of tickets than anyone. I was a sucker for sob stories about not being able to buy baby formula LOL (Funny when they were driving a new Mercedes)

I based getting a ticket or not on how the person treated me. Someone who greeted me with &quot;Hello officer, how is your day going?&quot; almost always got a break and a gentle warning. Someone who started with &quot;You *ucking pig, get out of my face&quot; usually ended up having a bad day. (No I did not beat them up)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45741">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Anonymous</p>
<p>As former law enforcement, I can confirm what you are saying. It goes even further than that, they can &#8220;Make up&#8221; any excuse they want for why you were pulled over. Once when I was off duty in my own car and clothes, I got pulled over by a state trooper. I handed him my license and registration without a word about me being a cop.</p>
<p>When he came back to the car, he handed me a ticket for doing 70 in a 50 MPH zone. I was doing the speed limit and he told me  it was my word against his. I then showed him my badge and said I would be going to court in my uniform and asking the judge to show proof of such an accusation.</p>
<p>He then chewed me out for not telling him I was a cop. I said &#8220;Does it matter, if you are doing this to everyone you should be ashamed&#8221;. I said &#8220;Just give me the damn ticket and I will see you in court&#8221;. He tore up the ticket but the next day I got called into my supervisors office to explain why I tried to use my job to get out of a ticket?</p>
<p>I explained the entire story to him and stated &#8220;have him come in and let us both take a polygraph and see who was lying&#8221;. The issue was dropped but just shows some cops will lie to God Himself to save their own skins or to &#8220;Beef up&#8221; their ticket #&#8217;s. And yes, some department use to give bonuses to officers who wrote more tickets. Part of that money went to the state and the rest went to the department that wrote the tickets.</p>
<p>I probably wrote the least amount of tickets than anyone. I was a sucker for sob stories about not being able to buy baby formula LOL (Funny when they were driving a new Mercedes)</p>
<p>I based getting a ticket or not on how the person treated me. Someone who greeted me with &#8220;Hello officer, how is your day going?&#8221; almost always got a break and a gentle warning. Someone who started with &#8220;You *ucking pig, get out of my face&#8221; usually ended up having a bad day. (No I did not beat them up)</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45742&quot;&gt;3 or More Day Tripper&lt;/a&gt;.

My county has a line (Supposedly an FDLE rule) that if you leave the state of Florida, even for 1 second, you have to register. I have never seen that before (I could have missed it?) I live hundreds of miles from the state line so would not affect me.

Having said that, there are small towns on the border or the panhandle where most of the stores are in the bordering states. So you have to register every time you go 1/2 mile to get gas or groceries? What is next, registry state border police?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45742">3 or More Day Tripper</a>.</p>
<p>My county has a line (Supposedly an FDLE rule) that if you leave the state of Florida, even for 1 second, you have to register. I have never seen that before (I could have missed it?) I live hundreds of miles from the state line so would not affect me.</p>
<p>Having said that, there are small towns on the border or the panhandle where most of the stores are in the bordering states. So you have to register every time you go 1/2 mile to get gas or groceries? What is next, registry state border police?</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 13:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45743&quot;&gt;FAC Contributor #3&lt;/a&gt;.

I registered recently and noticed something I never saw before. I thought you could cross state line, say for a day trip without registering. My thoughts were that you could go somewhere as long as it is not more than 2 days.

Well on my paperwork it says &quot;If you cross state lines and fail to register, you will be arrested for failure to register&quot;. Well crap, So if you lived on the state line and the closest store was just 1/4 mile across the line, you are violating every time you buy food? How freaking insane is that?

On that theory, if you drove across the U.S you would have to stop and register and un-register while going through each state? It does not specify.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45743">FAC Contributor #3</a>.</p>
<p>I registered recently and noticed something I never saw before. I thought you could cross state line, say for a day trip without registering. My thoughts were that you could go somewhere as long as it is not more than 2 days.</p>
<p>Well on my paperwork it says &#8220;If you cross state lines and fail to register, you will be arrested for failure to register&#8221;. Well crap, So if you lived on the state line and the closest store was just 1/4 mile across the line, you are violating every time you buy food? How freaking insane is that?</p>
<p>On that theory, if you drove across the U.S you would have to stop and register and un-register while going through each state? It does not specify.</p>
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		By: FAC Contributor #3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAC Contributor #3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 13:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45742&quot;&gt;3 or More Day Tripper&lt;/a&gt;.

There is no such thing as different counties defining it differently. There is one state statute that applies to everyone. It should have a universal definition and that universal definition should be clear. The fact that different counties or different people can have different definitions is a prima facie illustration of vagueness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/visiting-registrant-arrested-and-held-without-bond-after-failing-to-register-cell-phone-number/comment-page-1/#comment-45742">3 or More Day Tripper</a>.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as different counties defining it differently. There is one state statute that applies to everyone. It should have a universal definition and that universal definition should be clear. The fact that different counties or different people can have different definitions is a prima facie illustration of vagueness.</p>
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