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		By: Love2ClearClouds		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Love2ClearClouds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I’ve learned through 6 decades of experience, and the last 24+ years spent in research, is that voting isn’t real. If it was real, if we really could choose, they wouldn’t let us vote. That’s not just the in-your-face comedy of George Carlin. It’s a fact.

“Presidents are selected, not elected.”
-Franklin D Roosevelt

So, our county SOE sends our son a mail-in ballot every election. He shreds them. But then, in the last year or so, they have been sending him requests to update his address, which I found unsettling. I haven’t voted since the criminal George W. Bush. They never sent me any such requests.

After I had found all the evidence that proves voting is pointless, I sent a request to the SOE and told them to remove me from the voting registration. I was already an NPA, which means you can’t vote in the primaries. Whatever. They will appoint their favorite puppet.

So I suggested to my son that he do the same, and he did. So far, no more requests for an address update. It just felt like something else was going on with those requests than just updating voting status. It felt like they were trying to catch him with a diff address than is on file with the registry. The feeling I had every time he received a ballot was that it was intended as a “gotcha”. Not going to have that issue anymore.

Our government is bought-off. They’re owned by corporations and [moderated]. They answer to the highest bidder and they all fear the [moderated]. The only way we’re ever gonna fix things is to rise up and, together, all of us, stop allowing their tyranny.

“There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.”
Robert A. Heinlein]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I’ve learned through 6 decades of experience, and the last 24+ years spent in research, is that voting isn’t real. If it was real, if we really could choose, they wouldn’t let us vote. That’s not just the in-your-face comedy of George Carlin. It’s a fact.</p>
<p>“Presidents are selected, not elected.”<br />
-Franklin D Roosevelt</p>
<p>So, our county SOE sends our son a mail-in ballot every election. He shreds them. But then, in the last year or so, they have been sending him requests to update his address, which I found unsettling. I haven’t voted since the criminal George W. Bush. They never sent me any such requests.</p>
<p>After I had found all the evidence that proves voting is pointless, I sent a request to the SOE and told them to remove me from the voting registration. I was already an NPA, which means you can’t vote in the primaries. Whatever. They will appoint their favorite puppet.</p>
<p>So I suggested to my son that he do the same, and he did. So far, no more requests for an address update. It just felt like something else was going on with those requests than just updating voting status. It felt like they were trying to catch him with a diff address than is on file with the registry. The feeling I had every time he received a ballot was that it was intended as a “gotcha”. Not going to have that issue anymore.</p>
<p>Our government is bought-off. They’re owned by corporations and [moderated]. They answer to the highest bidder and they all fear the [moderated]. The only way we’re ever gonna fix things is to rise up and, together, all of us, stop allowing their tyranny.</p>
<p>“There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.”<br />
Robert A. Heinlein</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2023 12:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57850&quot;&gt;AL_in_JaxFL&lt;/a&gt;.

@AL

Ron just filed a motion due to a challenge on the 20 years changing to 25 years. The case is being heard soon and the judge will decide if it can stay at 20 years or retroactively change to 25 years.

Many years ago a judge stated there has to be a path off of the registry but did not clarify what that timeline was. So, if a judge rules it can stay at 25, what is to keep it from later on for them to change it to 30, 35, 40 and so on as we seem to make progress?

The challenge by Ron to keep it at 20 years and gives the judge 30 days to respond and could take even longer for a decision. Not sure if the ruling is bad if they can retroactively apply that to those who were already removed.

All of us are tired of the games the courts and law makers are playing with our lives as well as our families.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57850">AL_in_JaxFL</a>.</p>
<p>@AL</p>
<p>Ron just filed a motion due to a challenge on the 20 years changing to 25 years. The case is being heard soon and the judge will decide if it can stay at 20 years or retroactively change to 25 years.</p>
<p>Many years ago a judge stated there has to be a path off of the registry but did not clarify what that timeline was. So, if a judge rules it can stay at 25, what is to keep it from later on for them to change it to 30, 35, 40 and so on as we seem to make progress?</p>
<p>The challenge by Ron to keep it at 20 years and gives the judge 30 days to respond and could take even longer for a decision. Not sure if the ruling is bad if they can retroactively apply that to those who were already removed.</p>
<p>All of us are tired of the games the courts and law makers are playing with our lives as well as our families.</p>
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		By: Michael*		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael*]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2023 16:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57858&quot;&gt;j&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope I can see that some1 from Polk County, Fl gets off the registry soon because I&#039;m right at 24 years being on the offender&#039;s list and I&#039;m wanting off. I did my 3 year probation, paid - off all my fines &#038; haven&#039;t tried to get a lawyer to challenge my convictions yet! About 2 yrs ago I contacted Tallahassee to get my civil rights reinstated but received a letter that our FL governor denied my request &#038; I gotta wait another 2 years to put in my request for my civil rights to be reinstated. But in 2025 I&#039;ll be at the position to receive an full pardon by FL statues !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57858">j</a>.</p>
<p>I hope I can see that some1 from Polk County, Fl gets off the registry soon because I&#8217;m right at 24 years being on the offender&#8217;s list and I&#8217;m wanting off. I did my 3 year probation, paid &#8211; off all my fines &amp; haven&#8217;t tried to get a lawyer to challenge my convictions yet! About 2 yrs ago I contacted Tallahassee to get my civil rights reinstated but received a letter that our FL governor denied my request &amp; I gotta wait another 2 years to put in my request for my civil rights to be reinstated. But in 2025 I&#8217;ll be at the position to receive an full pardon by FL statues !</p>
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		By: Psalms 91		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Psalms 91]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57857&quot;&gt;Jeff S&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Jeff for the information can you email me at nardshard @iCloud.com  I wanted to ask you a few more questions about it. Thank you so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57857">Jeff S</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Jeff for the information can you email me at nardshard @iCloud.com  I wanted to ask you a few more questions about it. Thank you so much.</p>
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		By: j		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57847&quot;&gt;Jeff S&lt;/a&gt;.

Just wondering, has anyone been successfully removed in Polk County ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57847">Jeff S</a>.</p>
<p>Just wondering, has anyone been successfully removed in Polk County ?</p>
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		By: Jeff S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57855&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes sir. I had people help me off of here so I am happy to help also with any info I can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57855">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>Yes sir. I had people help me off of here so I am happy to help also with any info I can.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57852&quot;&gt;Jeff S&lt;/a&gt;.

@Jeff

Not sure how much you paid but Ron quoted me $10,000 for removal and stated I could share that info. I agree that he is awesome. Also since each person sees a different judge depending on where you live, there are no guarantees on a win and that is understandable.
I called him when someone tried to scam me pretending to be a cop and I put Ron on the phone and he told me hang up on the guy. There was no charge for that advice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57852">Jeff S</a>.</p>
<p>@Jeff</p>
<p>Not sure how much you paid but Ron quoted me $10,000 for removal and stated I could share that info. I agree that he is awesome. Also since each person sees a different judge depending on where you live, there are no guarantees on a win and that is understandable.<br />
I called him when someone tried to scam me pretending to be a cop and I put Ron on the phone and he told me hang up on the guy. There was no charge for that advice.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57851&quot;&gt;Jeff S&lt;/a&gt;.

@Jeff

Thank you, that is helpful information.

Stay blessed and thanks for still coming On this site even though you are OFF the registry LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57851">Jeff S</a>.</p>
<p>@Jeff</p>
<p>Thank you, that is helpful information.</p>
<p>Stay blessed and thanks for still coming On this site even though you are OFF the registry LOL</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57840&quot;&gt;Pariah.001&lt;/a&gt;.

My theory is that newbie politicos enter the profession with noble intentions and the corruption comes later, after being in the system for a few years.

Term limits are probably the only way that could happen. But no politician will ever propose anything to limit themselves. Accordingly, a movement to vote for no incumbents nationwide would be the only way to make that happen, unlikely that may be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57840">Pariah.001</a>.</p>
<p>My theory is that newbie politicos enter the profession with noble intentions and the corruption comes later, after being in the system for a few years.</p>
<p>Term limits are probably the only way that could happen. But no politician will ever propose anything to limit themselves. Accordingly, a movement to vote for no incumbents nationwide would be the only way to make that happen, unlikely that may be.</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/voting-cases-resulting-in-wildly-different-outcomes/comment-page-1/#comment-57846&quot;&gt;Jed&lt;/a&gt;.

@ Jed:

THen look up how much GEO stock Ron Book owns. I&#039;d bet that has more to do with his activism than anything that happened to his daughter.]]></description>
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<p>@ Jed:</p>
<p>THen look up how much GEO stock Ron Book owns. I&#8217;d bet that has more to do with his activism than anything that happened to his daughter.</p>
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