This issue isn’t discussed enough out there. I did see it called out a bit on a show I’ve been watching on Netflix called I Am A Killer.

I question how this works, though. I mean, aren’t the charging statutes explained to the jury? So if the State says we’re going to charge you for a higher crime, are they not setting themselves up for failure at trial? If I shoplift and the prosecutor threatens to charge me with armed robbery, won’t your average person/jury, by instruction from the court, have to find not guilty? Because my cringe never met the definition of armed robbery? Or do they prosecute both the lower actual offense and just add in the higher one as a gamble since you could be found guilty of the lower charge still?

Or does it all boil down to sentencing? In other words, are plea deals more about getting a lower sentence for the same charge rather than riding receipt of the maximum?

I agree. More polls. But even better are sanctioned surveys from research, civil rights, and law organizations for use in effecting better policies. The tough part about some of them is they require identity, which makes them more credible but also causes anxiety for some, probably most, of us. Fear of retaliation isn’t unreasonable but I am starting to believe it’s overblown. Hell, our PII is already published for all to see, including crazed vigilantes.

Mike, sounds like Ron is trying to save you from yourself. Whatever wording you want to use, failure to register is a serious violation of the law with extremely serious consequences. You’re playing with your freedom when you start bending and contorting terms and phrases. It’s not going to save you from arrest and prosecution. You should be thanking Mr. Kleiner 😭

How about this….When I told Ron Kleiner that failing to register was not an offense, it sounded like he wanted to jump through the phone, reminescent of Ron Book and the infamous “I’ll chase you until you die” mentality. It’s whatever at this point. I think the whole deal here is pretty sus, and I’m about to do my own reporting.

Not only is it a long time but it is also clearly overkill and cruel and unusual punishment even by the most conservative definition of the term!

Bottom line is that we are modern 1st world UNTOUCHABLES who are “allowed” to live in the society but excluded from the vast majority of it.

We are living examples of what the ruling class can do to a regular citizen. We were created (the sex offender status) by them to maintain fear in the general population and illustrate the extent that the government literally owns you and can destroy you if they decide to do so.

That same woman went on to accuse her next husband of exposing himself to her daughter as well.

The fact of the matter is that the mirror accusation of anything is enough to ruin somebody’s life. They will hold you in jail long enough to make you take any deal to get out of there, or no deal at all. And they keep adding and adding more restrictions that are felonies. Even when you try to keep up with them you will have trouble – don’t get me started on iPhones. I bought my husband iPhone, I never set up email on his phone but because it’s an iPhone, he got thrown in jail for failure to report an email address. $5000 later we got the charge dropped but it’s such bullshit. I actually have legal insurance at this point just in case something happens again like that.

@Candy, there may be some hope for some out-of-state residents to get removed from Florida’s registry in this newly filed House Bill (1055):

http://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2020/1055/BillText/Filed/PDF

I would lay good money that it won’t pass because it could potential remove thousands and cost the state millions in federal dollars.

Thank you for sharing, my wife is from NJ so if course on paper it sounds amazing. But housing is much more expensive, property tax is crazy, and other stuff would prevent me from moving there. I would love to, but it’s not practical with my current income situation.

I think this proves a point though, we want a solution to our woes. There is the legal option which by supporting FAC we are working on. Time, is the enemy because we all know the clock keeps ticking. So who wouldn’t love an option to just move and be free. But in reality the only real solution is to endure, pray, hope, support the cause and each other, and educate ourselves and others who will listen. If NJ didn’t have issues I’m aware of already I would go. But it doesn’t fix anything. It only takes one set of problems for another.

We are stuck here in Florida because we bought a house with the last money we had, but please understand that if you move to another state, you only have to go by what that’s states laws say. If you are currently on Florida’s registry, this state will keep you on their registry forever! We moved here from NJ in 2015, and not only in NJ, but also PA and WA, my husband could vote, move around freely without an identifier on his ID, and he was designated at the lowest level offender, with a once a year visit from one officer to verify his residence. NJDOC finally maxed him out in 2002, which should have been the end of his punishment, but every day since we moved here to Florida. Now he has to report 4 times a year, is designated at the highest level of offender, and has to pay Duval county Sherriff’s Dept. twice a year to register (talk about adding insult to injury!) I now dislike this state after spending many vacations over the past 60 years here. I’m stuck here, so I’ll keep fighting, but I agree with the person who said, if you can, move out of Florida. Be smart and don’t move to a southern state, where “states rights” still supersede what it means to be a citizen of this country, the land I still love.

New Jersey. It does an equivalency hearing first. If you are deemed to have committed a registrable offense, you are tiered using a mostly objective scoresheet. It’s a point system. Typically high level Tier 2 and all Tier 3 registrants are on public registry, which only constitutes roughly 25% of all registrants. It beats Florida by a long shot.