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		By: Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-69007</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek W. Logue of OnceFallen.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, it seems this issue arose from a dispute over money; it seems that these made a verbal agreement for work on the property, so these two knew each other, so this vigilante is just a disgruntled neighbor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, it seems this issue arose from a dispute over money; it seems that these made a verbal agreement for work on the property, so these two knew each other, so this vigilante is just a disgruntled neighbor.</p>
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		By: Bo		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68995</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 23:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The road we walk is not easy, and we are all trying to survive as best we can. I see a parallel to the experience of Black Americans in the 1940s, when uninformed and prejudiced people took actions to exclude, humiliate, and control men and women. In our case, it is not because we are any lesser human beings, but because we have taken a misstep in life—and people believe the lies spread by fear and misunderstanding.

In my opinion, while some organizations fight in court, one case at a time, I think it is more effective to also work nationally and locally to educate others and expose the injustice. These draconian restrictions, though sometimes done by well-intentioned people, are neither Christian nor American. Through ordinances, legislation, and policies, states are imposing rules that deny former sex offenders their dignity, equality, and personhood—giving government-sanctioned legitimacy to discrimination.

The law itself has become a tool of oppression, stripping men—brothers, fathers, grandfathers, and veterans—of equal protection and access. Floridians are fed a prejudicial template of falsehoods that, in their minds, justify unjust behavior. This dehumanization reduces former offenders to an inaccurate profile, denying their individuality, achievements, and dreams. They must navigate a minefield of rules about where they can live, travel, and work—under constant threat of punishment. This draconian mismanagement robs people of their lives, and by itself, should be unconstitutional and a violation of each representatives&#039; oath of office to serve and protect.

A wise friend once advised that under such circumstances we should stand our ground in truth—but do so kindly. Be open with neighbors, assuring them we are not a threat to their safety or family, and do it as openly and cordially as possible. My friend went to each nearby neighbor, the one next door with small kids, met them and briefly shared his circumstances.  Look for ways to reject their wrongful behavior with kindness—greet them as you pass their house. Maintain that cordiality in the face of bad behavior, or, if necessary, shake the dust from your feet and move on with your life. By ignoring the affront, it may be your neighbor who ends up suffering more than you.

If the neighbor refuses to remove the sign, bring the grievance to your neighborhood association or city manager, asking for help to have it removed.  To this group, you have already lost your anonymity.  And if the sign clearly identifies your home, I like the idea of posting a matching sign of your own—commercially made in the same style—reading: “Honk if you love your neighbor – Mark 12:31,” with an arrow pointing toward your offending neighbor’s house. Now, whoever honks, it won’t be clear what that means, which takes the sting out of the noise. And you are effectively shaming your neighbor.  At this point, you can’t hide your status—so own it and fight back. Sorry—easy to say, hard to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The road we walk is not easy, and we are all trying to survive as best we can. I see a parallel to the experience of Black Americans in the 1940s, when uninformed and prejudiced people took actions to exclude, humiliate, and control men and women. In our case, it is not because we are any lesser human beings, but because we have taken a misstep in life—and people believe the lies spread by fear and misunderstanding.</p>
<p>In my opinion, while some organizations fight in court, one case at a time, I think it is more effective to also work nationally and locally to educate others and expose the injustice. These draconian restrictions, though sometimes done by well-intentioned people, are neither Christian nor American. Through ordinances, legislation, and policies, states are imposing rules that deny former sex offenders their dignity, equality, and personhood—giving government-sanctioned legitimacy to discrimination.</p>
<p>The law itself has become a tool of oppression, stripping men—brothers, fathers, grandfathers, and veterans—of equal protection and access. Floridians are fed a prejudicial template of falsehoods that, in their minds, justify unjust behavior. This dehumanization reduces former offenders to an inaccurate profile, denying their individuality, achievements, and dreams. They must navigate a minefield of rules about where they can live, travel, and work—under constant threat of punishment. This draconian mismanagement robs people of their lives, and by itself, should be unconstitutional and a violation of each representatives&#8217; oath of office to serve and protect.</p>
<p>A wise friend once advised that under such circumstances we should stand our ground in truth—but do so kindly. Be open with neighbors, assuring them we are not a threat to their safety or family, and do it as openly and cordially as possible. My friend went to each nearby neighbor, the one next door with small kids, met them and briefly shared his circumstances.  Look for ways to reject their wrongful behavior with kindness—greet them as you pass their house. Maintain that cordiality in the face of bad behavior, or, if necessary, shake the dust from your feet and move on with your life. By ignoring the affront, it may be your neighbor who ends up suffering more than you.</p>
<p>If the neighbor refuses to remove the sign, bring the grievance to your neighborhood association or city manager, asking for help to have it removed.  To this group, you have already lost your anonymity.  And if the sign clearly identifies your home, I like the idea of posting a matching sign of your own—commercially made in the same style—reading: “Honk if you love your neighbor – Mark 12:31,” with an arrow pointing toward your offending neighbor’s house. Now, whoever honks, it won’t be clear what that means, which takes the sting out of the noise. And you are effectively shaming your neighbor.  At this point, you can’t hide your status—so own it and fight back. Sorry—easy to say, hard to do.</p>
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		By: RET. SGT. Vito		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68937</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RET. SGT. Vito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68929&quot;&gt;TS&lt;/a&gt;.

@TS

I agree with you on legal and ethical terms, but you I would wager the PFR would still lose in court. Does he deserve to win? Absolutely, should he ethically? Of course, &quot;live and let live&quot;. Will he? Not a chance, here&#039;s why:

Judges and Sheriffs generally need to campaign for office or are selected by a municipal/city council. If your style of law enforcement or court rulings go against the general court of public opinion, you&#039;re going to find yourself out of a job next time you campaign. 

Not sure who said it, but it rings true to me. &quot;You can&#039;t vote your way out of a broken system.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68929">TS</a>.</p>
<p>@TS</p>
<p>I agree with you on legal and ethical terms, but you I would wager the PFR would still lose in court. Does he deserve to win? Absolutely, should he ethically? Of course, &#8220;live and let live&#8221;. Will he? Not a chance, here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>Judges and Sheriffs generally need to campaign for office or are selected by a municipal/city council. If your style of law enforcement or court rulings go against the general court of public opinion, you&#8217;re going to find yourself out of a job next time you campaign. </p>
<p>Not sure who said it, but it rings true to me. &#8220;You can&#8217;t vote your way out of a broken system.&#8221;</p>
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		By: TS		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68929</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 16:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68922&quot;&gt;CherokeeJack&lt;/a&gt;.

Taking the fine print into account, he is harassing his neighbor from his own yard against the fine print of the registry website in using data that is not meant to be used in such a manner and asking drivers to create a noise issue where there is none needed.  I&#039;d say it could be legally challenged and won by the neighbor who is being harassed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68922">CherokeeJack</a>.</p>
<p>Taking the fine print into account, he is harassing his neighbor from his own yard against the fine print of the registry website in using data that is not meant to be used in such a manner and asking drivers to create a noise issue where there is none needed.  I&#8217;d say it could be legally challenged and won by the neighbor who is being harassed.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68922</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 14:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68918&quot;&gt;Dustin&lt;/a&gt;.

Dustin

Although I do not agree with it, it would probably be covered under free speech. Maybe stretch it out to hate speech but sometimes we get physically attacked or our house damaged and the cops just say, &quot;Try and get along with your neighbors&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68918">Dustin</a>.</p>
<p>Dustin</p>
<p>Although I do not agree with it, it would probably be covered under free speech. Maybe stretch it out to hate speech but sometimes we get physically attacked or our house damaged and the cops just say, &#8220;Try and get along with your neighbors&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Dustin		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-3/#comment-68918</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 04:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I were that registrant and my property got vandalized, I&#039;d be suing him. Pretty sure he&#039;d have a hard time dodging liability.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were that registrant and my property got vandalized, I&#8217;d be suing him. Pretty sure he&#8217;d have a hard time dodging liability.</p>
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		By: TS		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-2/#comment-68909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 22:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-2/#comment-68886&quot;&gt;Jacob&lt;/a&gt;.

It is his bully pulpit because he feels like a man this way and no other ways.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-2/#comment-68886">Jacob</a>.</p>
<p>It is his bully pulpit because he feels like a man this way and no other ways.</p>
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		By: CherokeeJack		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-1/#comment-68899</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherokeeJack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 21:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-1/#comment-68887&quot;&gt;Robert Curtis&lt;/a&gt;.

Robert

There is a MASSIVE, political divide between California and Florida. Cali being liberal for the most part and Florida being Ultra Conservative. Some states have opened their eyes and their hearts. Florida has turned a blind eye to us and has ignored us, except when they want to punish us more each session with more and more restrictions. 
We have made &quot;Some&quot; progress but mostly on things like ordinances that didn&#039;t stand up in court. And each time we get a win, the other side hits us with more and more harsher restrictions, rules, and legislation. If it wasn&#039;t for my family, I would move away to another state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-1/#comment-68887">Robert Curtis</a>.</p>
<p>Robert</p>
<p>There is a MASSIVE, political divide between California and Florida. Cali being liberal for the most part and Florida being Ultra Conservative. Some states have opened their eyes and their hearts. Florida has turned a blind eye to us and has ignored us, except when they want to punish us more each session with more and more restrictions.<br />
We have made &#8220;Some&#8221; progress but mostly on things like ordinances that didn&#8217;t stand up in court. And each time we get a win, the other side hits us with more and more harsher restrictions, rules, and legislation. If it wasn&#8217;t for my family, I would move away to another state.</p>
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		By: RET. SGT. Vito		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-2/#comment-68891</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RET. SGT. Vito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[addendum:

the weirdest part to me is that I see headlines of parents killing their own children all the time. Where is the registry for child killers? really splitting hairs here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>addendum:</p>
<p>the weirdest part to me is that I see headlines of parents killing their own children all the time. Where is the registry for child killers? really splitting hairs here.</p>
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		By: RET. SGT. Vito		</title>
		<link>https://floridaactioncommittee.org/vigilante-uses-signs-to-get-neighbor-to-move/comment-page-2/#comment-68890</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RET. SGT. Vito]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If we&#039;re being honest with ourselves; the registry does nothing to prevent crime. Especially at its ridiculous and ever-expanding cost to the American taxpayer. Law Enforcement is paid in so many different ways it would blow your mind if you stopped to think of it.

 Awards and ceremonies (at the taxpayers expense), tuition/student loans(at the taxpayers expense), Reduction in rent and mortgage(if it&#039;s a hiring incentive then it is also at the taxpayers expense), increase in rank/paygrade(at the taxpayers expense), unnecessary overtime that is often welcomed by LE(at the taxpayers expense) and they get to virtue signal whenever it is convenient. I promise you, if the payroll stops funding this registry circus. None will enforce it for free. Are they really &quot;fighting crime&quot; or just milking money by harassing a statistically non-violent and non-recidivist populous?

In this chat we&#039;ve batted back and forth the idea of why there isn&#039;t a homicide registry. My sincere theory is that to have a registry for homicide would make future would-be enlisted personnel not desire to be associated with that social stigma(much like our current s.o./ registry). That would hurt enlistment levels. Here&#039;s a fun fact: every territory the U.S. army has entered it has left behind a military base (of a suitable branch). For the purpose of intelligence gathering, resources, interpolitical treaty and sanction enforcement. If you don&#039;t have enough troops you enter a &quot;critical Staffing level&quot; if you stay at or under that level for a certain amount of time, you have to abandon/relocate/destroy your base. Costing you more in resources and data than any registry.

so no, I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll ever see a registry for murderers.

The registry is simply a data collection tool. 

&quot;Data will be the currency of the new AI governed world&quot;  -- Elon Musk


sorry for the rant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#8217;re being honest with ourselves; the registry does nothing to prevent crime. Especially at its ridiculous and ever-expanding cost to the American taxpayer. Law Enforcement is paid in so many different ways it would blow your mind if you stopped to think of it.</p>
<p> Awards and ceremonies (at the taxpayers expense), tuition/student loans(at the taxpayers expense), Reduction in rent and mortgage(if it&#8217;s a hiring incentive then it is also at the taxpayers expense), increase in rank/paygrade(at the taxpayers expense), unnecessary overtime that is often welcomed by LE(at the taxpayers expense) and they get to virtue signal whenever it is convenient. I promise you, if the payroll stops funding this registry circus. None will enforce it for free. Are they really &#8220;fighting crime&#8221; or just milking money by harassing a statistically non-violent and non-recidivist populous?</p>
<p>In this chat we&#8217;ve batted back and forth the idea of why there isn&#8217;t a homicide registry. My sincere theory is that to have a registry for homicide would make future would-be enlisted personnel not desire to be associated with that social stigma(much like our current s.o./ registry). That would hurt enlistment levels. Here&#8217;s a fun fact: every territory the U.S. army has entered it has left behind a military base (of a suitable branch). For the purpose of intelligence gathering, resources, interpolitical treaty and sanction enforcement. If you don&#8217;t have enough troops you enter a &#8220;critical Staffing level&#8221; if you stay at or under that level for a certain amount of time, you have to abandon/relocate/destroy your base. Costing you more in resources and data than any registry.</p>
<p>so no, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll ever see a registry for murderers.</p>
<p>The registry is simply a data collection tool. </p>
<p>&#8220;Data will be the currency of the new AI governed world&#8221;  &#8212; Elon Musk</p>
<p>sorry for the rant.</p>
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