A Message from FAC President
Recent Blog Activity
Over the last few weeks there has been a influx of new comments and particularly a lot of uninformed comments, hate and off topic. This is a public blog but we have rules and a code of conduct that must be followed and we will be enforcing these rules to make sure this blog is a informative and safe place for persons and families that has been impacted by the registry. We will be removing any recent comments that do not adhere to our policies. We will not like every comment that is published here but just take time to remember that every new uninformed person is a chance to educate them. Show them our real time stories and life experiences. Don’t let the haters drag you down. and remember to ALWAYS SMILE.!!!
Thanks everyone for your understanding. I’m adding a previous post on our blog policy.
Your FAC President
Our forum is intended to be a source of information, referrals, resources and support for registrants. We have a member code of conduct that governs every aspect of our organization, including our forum. The following is an excerpt from our member code of conduct, “Members are required to treat other FAC Members, politicians, police, probation officers, treatment providers, members of the media as well as all third parties with whom FAC interacts, with respect, dignity, honesty and fairness. Threatening, insubordinate, violent or obscene behavior by any Member will not be tolerated. Any conduct that encourages or permits an offensive or hostile environment will not be tolerated. Members are expected to communicate with candor, courtesy and respect. Members must realize that Registered Citizens are already perceived in an unfavorable light and for that reason we must conduct ourselves in a manner that reflects the highest ethical standards and most professional conduct in order to strengthen the public’s perception.”
If a comment falls outside the code of conduct, we will exclude it. If your comment was excluded, ask yourself whether it fell outside the Code of Conduct. Did you use an offensive term to refer to one of the categories of people mentioned above? Was your comment bashing a certain religion or political group? You have to keep in mind that our forum is not a closed community. Any member of the public can read these comments and even some who you might not think are reading it, are. You also have to keep in mind that even though we share the same goal (abolishing the registry), you can’t assume that makes us the same in every way. We certainly do not want to alienate or offend anybody because we want them to feel safe, comfortable and accepted.
Our forum is also intended to be a source of information. Some commenters spread blatant misinformation (even unintentionally). Occasionally we will post the comment with a correction, including a reference to the Florida Statute, if we know that the comment is wrong. Other times, if we’re unsure of the accuracy of the information or can’t find it in the statutes, we will ask the person who made the comment to provide a reference to the source/statute/ordinance. But pretty often the information is just blatantly wrong based on the clear language of the Statute or case law. Rather than debate the law (we are not a law firm so we’re not qualified to give legal opinions anyhow) or confuse our readers into relying on something that is not correct, we delete the comment.
That said, we absolutely DO want people to share new laws or other information on this forum. That’s what we are here for. However, as a general guideline, if you are going to do so, please cite to the source of information, whether it is a statute number or even a news article from which we can validate the information. If you announce that a new Bill was passed that requires XYZ and we know that Legislative Session isn’t for another few months, we’re not going to post it. We also recognize that we have members from other states. If you are going to share information that is only relevant to your State (or County), please make mention of that. For example, you can write, “I am from ABC State and spoke to my Sheriff’s office who said I don’t need to report if I stay in a hotel for 5 days”, but please make sure that you mention that critical fact or you might cause another of our members in Florida to unintentionally violate the law in reliance on what you wrote.
As far as posting comments from trolls or people who disagree with our position on registration, yes, we do occasionally allow their comments through. As we’ve said, people who you would not think read this forum and responding to their post is an opportunity to rebut their opinion or provide facts in opposition. We know that there are many who disagree with us out there, and we want them to be educated by the information on our site also. If we just use this forum to chat among ourselves, we are preaching to the choir. On the other hand, if someone comes in and posts one of the many myths about people on the registry, you can write the facts and cite the research and throw it back at them. When the daughter (and victim) of a murdered registrant found our site and commented, we actually engaged in productive dialogue and developed empathy for each other. It was a positive exchange.
Also, sometimes we need to remove comments that drive the conversation off topic. If the post is about homeless registrants being evicted and the topic gets diverted to travel restrictions, we might not allow a perfectly acceptable comment because it has nothing to do with the topic and we need to keep the discussion on track. If anyone has a topic they would like to discuss, please feel free to write up the post and submit it to [email protected]. We try to post as many Member Submissions as possible but the reality is we barely get any. If there is a topic you want covered, this is your formal invitation to write up a few paragraphs about that topic or opinion (related to the cause, naturally) and send it in to us.
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Botti
I have two. Never harmed them or any other child for that matter.
Thanks for the reminder!
It’s not about being in agreement it’s about being civil and fostering a safe place to dialogue and further our cause. We are intentional that this be one place where hate, shame and ugliness not exist and I applaud FAC for doing whatever it takes to keep it that way.
Unfortunately every public forum attracts trolls who just want to create trouble and confusion. The topics can be anything from weather to geometry. Politics and philosophy get hammered by these mean people who don’t care about the discussion, they just want to enjoy the power they feel they have by taking away and distracting from a real discussion. Some people I guess get bored and like to act like bullies.
Good luck to the moderators, it will likely only get worse. Please hang in there and delete/remove as you feel appropriate. If someone uses “Free Speech” as their argument, remind them they can start their own forum.
Rob
😃 smile
😂😂 Oh so cool! Are you also going to be censoring the offenders who make fun of, curse at and insult non offenders who have opinions that don’t match their own??
This page will be moderated to our policies. This Page is for the support of people on the registry. Not for other people to come here and bash and insult people for there past. We always welcome a constructive conversation but will no longer allow blatant disrespect from anyone nor allow false and not true information to be spread.
Please, do not forget about victims and their families.
Thank you
Some of us, or friends, family that we know are victims. so when victims come here then why are offenders allowed to be nasty and make highly inappropriate rebuttals?
Mr president,
With all due respect these OTHER as you say are upset, hurt parents. When human is upset,that’s how some of them display their anger. Hope you never had that experience ….I have
This i can totally understand. My wife was a victim of SA. yet she knows the registry would have done nothing to prevent the crime committed against her. The registry and sexual abuse are 2 totally different things. FAC does not support promote or condone and sexual crime or abuse. People who commit these crimes should be held accountable. As for the registry this is not for public safety but to continue and entrap someone in the justice system after the have completed their legal sentence.
Prez- sorry to hear about your wife and you sound like a good dude. I know not everyone on there is a monster. But there are many many many, who live in my neighborhood and area, who went to prison, got out and then did it again! They did horrible things to someone AGAIN! And what about the ones who came out of prison and still do creepy things that make ppl very uncomfortable?? It’s quite SICK. So because they did their time, all is okay now? It’s just a matter of time before they do it again or something WORSE. And I’m going by their actions and words etc. We see these things. And this is who I am talking about when I say PREDATORS.
Botti
You’re making assumptions. The reality is that recidivism is low. The reality is that registry violations are a significant reason why registrants have secondary arrests. Or they have other problems.
Bwj- I wish I was making assumptions and it wasn’t real but this is real and what I’ve experienced. Neighborhood guy released from prison for doing something very bad to a minor, constantly is staring at young ladies. Also he is doing other creepy things like stalking. His buddy went back to prison for doing a SECOND TIME SEXUAL OFFENSE.
In your community, it does not sound like the registry is having much beneficial effect. It’s simply not working. Another approach may be needed.
If someone was stalking or staring at my daughter, then we would have an issue, regardless of whether the individual is a convicted sex offender or not.
Jacob
What’s your recommendation? What do I say to this predetor? He made comments about young school girls checking them and sizing. Yet, he paints a picture as nice God loving man. Very disturbing.
Saved my 2 girls when I looked up sex registry in pinnelas county. 4 houses down in Seminole, happen to live cild predetor
Keep them close to the vest.
Jennifer
Your children are more likely to be harmed by a family member than they are by the guy down the street.
Ms Jennifer,
As a kindly reminder, just because a person was convicted, does NOT mean that they actually committed a crime…in most instances the bully’s that are paid by tax payers throw you in the corner and threaten you So you plea out
Yes bad things have happened to people; but to create one blanket to smother others is not correct
The Term ‘Person Forced to Register’ is the Proper Term
-to call a person a Sex Offender is in the present tense of the English Language which means they are sexually Offending-Not the Case
Moreover
A Pedophile is a Medically Diagnosed term with regard to DSM-3 in which Certified Medical Doctors can make that determination
Predator….well it seems that word is used for persons who are convicted more than once-well, they obviously have problems and are in need of Help!
Someone like Epstein, well he was a Master Con-Artiste
I know who she’s talking about in that neighborhood and he raped a minor. Served years in PRISON. It was not an oversight or forced to register problem LOL!
cj…please define this charge( for my info only)
appreciated
794.011(4)(e) Commits Sexual Battery; Victim 12 Or Older; And Mentally Defective
(4) A person who commits sexual battery upon a person 12 years of age or older without that person’s consent, under any of the following circumstances, commits a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, s. 775.084, or s. 794.0115:
(e) When the victim is mentally defective and the offender has reason to believe this or has actual knowledge of this fact.
(1) As used in this chapter:
(b) “Mentally defective” means a mental disease or defect which renders a person temporarily or permanently incapable of appraising the nature of his or her conduct.
(h) “Sexual battery” means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.
(i) “Victim” means a person who has been the object of a sexual offense.
Hi Botti. While I have no doubt there are repeat predatory behaviors in people. I would caution you to please look at the re-offense. In the vast majority of cases, including these operations that local enforcement tout as having many arrests, the re-offense is simply a registry violation and not a new sexual offense. For example last Halloween our local sheriff’s department touted tnr 16 arrests they made but left us with the assumption that new sex offenses were committed. None of them were. A simple check of the clerk of court found that arrests were for : an unregistered boat trailer that had no wheels, a misspelled email address, an unreported vehicle for the offender’s child, an unregistered post office box, etc. if ever there is anew sexual offense it will make the news as such. I say please verify info. The Florida laws are so strict that a second offense of a sexual nature puts people away for their natural life and this not an immediate threat to your loved ones. Education on what grooming looks like and clear, non-judgmental lines of communication will keep those you care about much safer than any registry ever will. Sending you love.
Anonymous
Well said.
Wow wow wow. You’re all like “oMg can you read the facts you troLL” yet none of you read what trolls are actually saying. I literally said that the guy did a second sexual act on a minor. A second one. It is not a re-registration issue. He did the sexual offense a second time. The time that comes after the first. The number two comes after the number one. Do you want to read his flyer? I can post the name if you want? I’m sure that isn’t allowed.
Antonyms
I am not referring to parole violation, I’m referring to actual crime commted towards child. This particulal offender already spent 10years for committing lewd act on chil lasted outside for less than a year. 2nd offense for same crime,12 years in prison. It wasnt a parole violation
Do you know for sure it was a new crime. The way the system works if you violate your probation you get resentenced for the original crime. so it often looks like a re offense but its just a probation violation and a re sentencing.
Cj
100% new crime .He was out of prison and less than a year later committed another offense.
Here’s but one example where the sex offender registry failed your community. Registration did nothing to prevent another child becoming victim. The guy just re-registered and went out and re-offended anyway. Meanwhile the registry remains mucked up with individuals who, unlike this guy, long ago demonstrated that they can function in the community without posing a threat.
Im against the registry but in my opinion if someone sexually offends again against a child they shouldn’t see the outside of a prison again.
Anonymous
Yes they shoud be no doubt. But if your favorite ice cream flavor is chocolate and you’re given Vanila day after day. ,what happen? You’re eventually craving that chocolate ice cream and will try again
Mm
If I understand your metaphor, my response is that the majority of those on the registry are not likely to reoffend.
Mr president
Explain,why these worst(predetors) were found by court of law to register for life? Would it be accurate to assume they are still treat to society and must be monitored.
Ty
Its not the sentencing judge that gets to decide if you are to be placed on the registry its by the crime and a one size fits all. every person required to register in Florida is sentence to lifetime being able to petition after 25 years. Nearly everyone who is convicted of a sexual offense must go through Treatment. A licensed Sexual Therapist approved by the state will treat and provide a risk assessment. Most have completed this before the end of there supervision. People who have committed the most serious crimes are evaluated before they are released and ones deemed a threat are sent to the civil commitment center. So to answer your questions, NO threat to society cannot be deemed just based on a label or crime but should be done based upon risk assessment and licensed professionals. And just a note the registry is not probation. We are not monitored we just have to update our information with the sheriffs department.
Chris
Understood
@President
Don’t forget ALL registered persons on the registry are banned from Nextdoor. They bash me all the time (My neighbor tells me what they are saying). But this supposedly safe place for us, people come on and make us feel even less of a person.
To be clear, I am not a weak person, I have been through Hell and back more times than just about anyone. But F.A.C was a shining light when I found it and was so happy to have people who understand what we are going through and helping and supporting each other, even if with prayers, lifting up, encouraging etc.
But as I said in the past when I said I was leaving, it was not because I am a wuss, it is because so many of the registrants on here were being censored, yet those coming to bash us and make of angry or worse, they sit back and laugh. Many on here were donating to the cause but who wants to donate then turn around and get made to feel like crap by some off the wall person spreading genuine evil and hate.
So…..you were a victim? I feel for you, pray for you and hope you get counseling and support. If you want to go off on someone, go after the person that hurt you, not someone you do not know. I spent a year trying to help my accuser, money, support, counseling, an apology? Nothing, they didn’t even show up to court.
Here I am almost 35 years later and still being harassed. On here, by neighbors, by law enforcement, by the news, etc etc.
Welcome back Cherokee 🥂🍺
Cherokee
I feel bad for you about those neighbors spreading rumors. If you don’t mind,what was your offense?
Cherokee
From what I gather you’re a good human too bad you’re unable to express your thoughts to the fullest extend🍺🍹🍹Is it upto FAC to remove you from registry?
KDL
Thanks for the virtual Wine and beer, could use some right now lol.
Not really back, I just couldn’t resist throwing in my 3 cents in about the hypocrisy going on in here lately. The scales are for sure not balanced anymore.
Even after leaving the site, I still come on every single day of my life and read the comments. (I am a sucker for missing out on news, comments etc)
And am waiting for that day when FAC makes a post telling those of us who are eligible to finally be able to go down to the sheriff’s office and be “Un-registered”. I guess it won’t happen until Christ Himself orders it because in Florida, no judge seems to have the guts to rule the registry punishment.
🍻🍹🍹cheers Cherokee
‘Welcome Back Welcome Back Welcome Back Kotter’
Glad it was a quick hibernation for you!
I agree with EVERYTHING CherokeeJack just said. Here’s my take:
1. Registered Persons have few bastions of safety where they can gather and talk about the issues concerning them. Besides NextDoor, we’re officially banned from all Meta products (FB, Instagram, etc.) and TikTok. Meta has an openly hostile policy against us to boot.
2. If I was a new activist and I stumbled upon this site and read the comment section, I’d feel this was not a site that is against the registry.
3. Victim advocates, police, and others that are against us have lots of other websites they can go to if they want to gather around a campfire and share their vitriol. It is not our jobs to act as virtual punching bags for these folks to get their jollies.
4. I’m pretty sure that the majority of the hate comments are coming from a singular troll at any rate. We don’t have to create an account, just a name and email. But this same troll used to pop up here all the time but was routinely blocked. How y’all are letting it have free reign here for some reason.
5. Trolls can’t be reasoned with. They get off by being pests and nothing more. They aren’t going to learn anything here. They can F off back to the Metaverse for all I care.
But hey if they get to talk smack to us, I’ll do the same to them until the staff at FAC wisens up on this policy. Block it and it wil eventually get bored and leave.
I agree Derek. I just hit the trolls back with one liner facts and 9 times out of 10, they never respond 😂
no end
not true, they do respond
Thanks Derek for having my Back.
Have seen you around much lately.
Most of us are walking the long walk, hoping the road eventually dead ends (in a good way).
For now, I keep taking daily walks that end in falling off a cliff (Metaphorically)
Botti
If you want to come here to have a discussion, that’s fine. But I haven’t seen any from you. No one here is advocating for sex crimes. We’re advocating for the ending of the registry which has been a way to end run around the constitution.
BWJ
Do not forget, many on here are just instigators, while others would laugh and jump for joy if we were beheaded. Some on here are just here to get a kick out of messing with us, but there are some that really would like to physically harm us.
The good news is, I think they believe all of us are old ragged wasted offenders who cannot defend themselves but some of us are warriors who do not back down.
Thanks.
Ty,G.C.!!!
J.A.
People who are expressing their opinion ( are those whoes kids grandchildren have been harmed) and shouldn’t be judged. Their Real victims. In this modern day Country US OF A freedom of speech is free.
Thanks
Then i would suggest to look at the facts and statistics to crimes of sexual nature. 95% are committed by someone who is not on the registry and is know to the victim. If we took the money that is spent on the registry and use it for sexual prevention and education maybe we could make a difference. Instead you would rather punish someone who has finished there sentence and violate their constitutional rights. In the us the constitution is for everyone yet your suggestion to exempt certain tax paying citizens.
Obviously ( sorry to say) it doesn’t work.
Why would you say it doesn’t work. have you looked at the recidivism rates for people convicted of a sexual offense. Have you ever look into who is even on the registry? My crime is 15 years ago when i was a dumb kid. I am now married and have 4 kids and a amazing career. We all want to say its about the children. So once again my kids don’t count? My kids don’t deserve the same treatment and life as everyone else? My kids deserve to get bullied from my mistake 15 years ago and have not even had a speeding ticket sense. I would encourage everyone on here coming as a victim advocate to do your research before spreading misinformation and lies.
Chris
I’m not spreading any misinformation, I haven’t posted anything previously .I’m a concerned parent so please have a respect to 82 year old granny.
I would just look at the facts and educate your kids and grandkids. People use the registry like its a safety net while statically its someone know to the family. I make sure i know my kids are safe and protected and they know to tell me and my wife if anything ever happens or if they suspect something. Prevention Starts in the house.
Respectfully, the best thing you could do for your grandkids would be to educate them that no one should ask a child to a keep a secret from their parents and grandparents. It’s tends to be the first step in grooming. Using the registry as a tool will just have you wasting your time and spinning wheels with the belief that you are protecting your family. Keep your lines of communication open, make sure those you love see you a s a safe space. Be well.
Anymous- do you have kids and know what you speak of?
I have 4 kids and education is a priority in keeping them safe in any aspect of life.
I do Botti. And I promise you I know what Inspeak of.
Chris
My incident was 35 years ago. Not even a speeding ticket. I am was in my 20s when the incident happened and now I am 60 years old. Seems I will end up dying on the registry.
When I get to Heaven, I will be speaking with God about some justice for those who are punished for life, all while having completed their sentences. I have been off probation for going on 22 years now.
Cherokee
It will be 👍
SORNA is supported by Monies Funneled Thru the Fed Byrne Funds and then the Monies Flow to State Jurisdictions in various formats
In addition to those funds are additional fees by LEO’s overtime; Everyone else getting a piece of that BIG PIE; attorneys; and other ‘actors-at-large’
Guess-Tamation’s of the total cost that is spent on enforcing SORNA is btw $10billion to $20 billion plus that most others have documented on websites etc….
it depends how you calculate it
SORNA is like John Walsh-“Americas Most Wanted Hypocrite”
C j
John Wash fund does good things to protect families.
Yes the center for missing and exploited children do good things for the community its the adam walsh act the created the help create the sex offense registry. two diffrent things.
What is so bad about Adam Walsh act to Predetors?
Can anyone educate me,,as why sexual predetors dislike Adam Walsh Act?
On the contrary, I doubt that sexual predators even think about the Adam Walsh Act. It does nothing to prevent sexual predation.
Just go to Prison Legal News and Type in John Walsh and Rev
Then you shall see with your own eyes and you can decide yourself
John Walsh has made over $100 million plus-you will need to file a Freedom of Information Fact in order to receive the accounting
When I questioned him over 10 years ago, he ran quickly away from Me with his Security Detail…they ran quickly!
Cj
You actually met the men?
Yes…was cooking at a Charity Dinner…He did not stay for the Flambe Bananas Foster; he could have gotten burnt!
What I said to him I cannot repeat here; most everyone would laugh if they heard it!
Cj
I happen to support John Walsh org. Very valuable for our society.
I agree with the john Walsh org which is the national center for missing and exploited children. This is different then the Adam Walsh act which led to the sex offense registry.
Cj
What does Walsh Act prevent sex predetors from?