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Has anyone seen how A I defines this google question?
Type in the following, “Florida sex registry punitive”
A I says the registry is punitive.
Quick someone send this to the president and ask for a pardon. And a refund on the last 28 years of my life.
@P
I hear you loud and clear. The problem is, the law makers have to say it is punitive and most of them won’t. Until that happens, or the Supreme court gets a heart and a soul, we have to step on thin ice for the rest of our lives.
What I cannot understand is, some sheriff’s offices are making people pay a fee for registering and they say it is an “Administrative” fee. Well so was my probation fees. And both, if you do not pay, you could be arrested. How is that not punitive?
Since going to jail is punitive, it makes sense that the thing that sent you there would also be deemed punitive. But logic does not prevail in this scenario.
I have to agree with Cheorkee about this harassment that some may be going thru. On another note are we all looking at this sex registry with the right frame of mind. In my own encounter the LE had to come up with something to charge me with since I never made a choice rather a decision. He came up with the word action and well actions speak louder than words but in many of these actions are authorities doing the right action. Such as in a plea bargain given before going to trial, or the actions of letting LE know where your going, how long you are going to stay. These are just a few actions or examples, call them rules if you like.
Sounds complicated but what was the moral action in even the sex sting operation done via internet or the lifetime probation many face after being in prison? Nothing wrong with standing up to big brother and yes their actions appear to be wrong in many ways. What a Christian nation we have today.
Being left out of society so to speak with these harassing rules and regulations is a bit anti-Christian by those in authority. Even looking at video that Hard Reality posting is shocking for anyone but that’s
reality. My hopes this coming year is many on the registry fight for truth in all this registry ruse.
The Books: good news and crazy news that I just discovered. Lauren Book no longer in Senate due to term limits – Yea!. Ron Book nominated for 2024 Nobel Peace Prize, in recognition of decades of advocacy and nonprofit work – Insane!
@RayO
I didn’t know they handed out Nobel Peace prizes for harassing people. How on God’s glorious Earth is that peace? So make everyone suffer because of one person who they had a bad experience with, in their past?
My Bible says to love others, forgive and move on. It may not be easy but it feels good when you release the pain.
this is said but there’s a statistic at the 11 min mark that is important to all of us not sure where they got that number though
Since 11/18. the Brevard Count SORT office is making people sign and fingerprint a copy of the “new” county ordinance amendment. They then tell registrants that if they WORK within 1000 feet of a school, daycare, park, or any place kids congregate they need to quit their jobs immediately. The sherriffs dept have also contacted probation last week to get probation to help enforce this new policy. Apparently there is going to be a 3 month “non-arrest” policy while all registrants are informed and allowed to get in compliance (quit) and a list of arrestable offenders is compiled with anyone on predator status being the first round priority.
Atatched is the county commisioners meeting minutes and discussion, including video,where this was ammended. BUT the new law is clearly only to restrict offenders from working AT a park school, etc.. and is specifically written to NOT ban offenders from any 1000 ft restrictions.
I even ran it by a lawyer to be sure I wasnt confused. He says I absolutely am not wrong.
The BCSO is aware there is an issue involving their interpretation of the new ordinance with what it actually says, but are proceeding and telling people to quit immediately anyways. BEWARE!!
https://brevardfl.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=6564666&GUID=A7ADD3E0-933C-4AC6-A000-FEEF38CED720
I find this very disturbing and depressing as well.
Neither Sheriff Wayne I’ve nor any of his Brevard County deputies can make anyone sign anything. Period.
You sure? I can’t figure out where the line is anymore. The local level is blurring the lines.
I’m seeing news reports that Trump is now nominating former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi for the US Attorney General since Matt Gaetz backed out. I don’t know her record on our issues (though I’m sure it’s not favorable). How will this potentially affect us?
Considering that Matt Gaetz was the architect of the “scorched earth” policy for “sexual predators” in Florida when he was in the Legislature, I don’t see how anyone could possibly have been worse for us. Bondi’s not great but she’s probably better than Gaetz.
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/matt-gaetz-pushed-for-sexual-predator-legislation-how-will-that-work-out-for-him/
If you only had one felony case in Florida and you had adjudication withheld for that case, it means you never lost your civil rights in Florida. If you were sentenced to probation while adjudication was withheld, never violated probation, completed your probation – then you are eligible to vote.
However, if you have a conviction from another state or other convictions in Florida, then you are not eligible to vote until you get clemency.
However, check with a lawyer.
But if you were convicted and it’s been more than five years since completing sentence, please request your rights to vote to be reinstated.
Contact the Department of clemency in Florida. If you don’t have other violations, they can not deny you forever and the more people that are eligible to vote that are in the registration list , the better it is.
11/19/2024
An operation aimed to confirm that registered sex offenders and predators are complying with state law sent 27 individuals to the Hillsborough county jail.County Jail
https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/operation-full-moon-sends-27-sex-offenders-predators-to-hillsborough-county-jail/
I read the whole article. The vast majority of arrests were for probationary violations, not registry violations. Nobody cares though, except us.
can someone explain what this Ex Post Facto Sustainer is and what it is about? I’ve seen it on here for quite a few years. What district is it in? Are there court records that one can look at? Thanks
The mission of the Ex Post Facto Challenge lawsuit is to have the registry legally deemed as punitive rather than administrative. The most immediate consequence of this would be that only laws and requirements active at the time of offense could be applied to a person required to register.
We originally raised funds to kick start the lawsuit, now known as Does v Glass in the Federal District Court for the Southern District of Florida, and since it’s been running, we have been raising funds to help sustain it. The case is proceeding to court, and the attorneys for the case are preparing to file amended complaints to reflect changes since the case was first filed. As the case progresses, there will continue to be costs, fees and expenses associated with expert witnesses, copies of transcripts, etc. With your continued support, we can sustain the strength of our argument with expert testimony and the like, as well as cover other costs associated with cases of this magnitude.
Investigated for a sex crime? You may become a sex offender registrant. Or, you may become the U.S. Attorney General.
Or President for that matter. Funny thing is, the general public doesn’t even seem bothered in the least that our President-elect and Gaetz both engaged in deviant sexual activity multiple times, but so long as it stays a “rumor” it’s a “witch hunt” in their eyes right? The ignorant public somehow needs formal charges, a trial and conviction for those extensively documented “unsubstantiated “claims” to be legitimized.
Now one is about to acquire the tools to halt and disappear any present or future ongoing investigations against both him and the person that nominated him.
Just mere allegations use to destroy politicians. Now in the last decade, voters are too proud to admit that the people they want in office are the very same kind of individuals they want to see punished.
So,
We now have a person in the highest office, as president, who stands presently having a criminal and civil background. Does anyone think that this will set or change precedence for those convicted and are being denied services?
Note- I am neutral on who is there and this is NOT a political attack on anyone. Just a healthy thought that may spark a change.
Not one bit. But I do wonder if the E. Jean Carroll case had been criminal, if he would have been allowed to vote. Florida law as I understand it, allowed Trump to vote in Florida because New York allowed him to vote.
He will actually make things worse for anyone with any kind of conviction Everyone keeps forgetting, this is the “tough on crime” bunch. The real question is, how bad will it get?
Those who voted for this certain someone are going to quickly find out how they shot themselves in the foot. Especially seeing how a large swath a society seems to think that someone has to be “convicted” of crime to exhibit a character flaw and thus be deemed “the enemy” in their eyes.
Has anyone here, relocated to Ga and petitioned to be removed from the registry?
I am hoping to do the petition myself, however if I can find an existing case , I can copy the format to file for removal.
Iv researched this with a successful attourney in GA. He told me that when your leveled in GA that if your not a level 1 they won’t remove you. So that’s your first hurtle. He said he’s done hundreds of removal cases and they have never removed someone who’s not considered a level one.. The attourney is Brandon Thomas I beleiev he’s out of Atlanta.
More interested in a successful case number or petitioner name as you can’t pull up cases by lawyer name.
I need petitioner name.
11/02/2024
Scam alert:
Earlier, I posted, “IMPORTANT” that there was a federal mandate telling people to do a secondary DNA have a federal warrant.
It’s actually a scam. They’ll send you to a Coinstar machine in some grocery store to send them cash money.
Beware, it’s a scam.
The FDLE should be alerting people in the registry about it.
IMPORTANT: Did anybody get a certified letter with an appointment date from your sheriff office in Florida announcing a 2021 federal mandate to collect DNA secondary DNA or for the first time from all registered sex offenders regardless of age of case ?
And if you miss the appointment or didn’t receive the letter an immediate federal arrest warrant goes out to you that you can’t get out off even if you try to comply and all hell breaks lose ? They even ask to provide 1,500. cash
Is a scam — the police will never ask to have you send cash money to them via Coinstar kiosks or by any other money transfer kiosk. By saying you violated some law mandate. It’s all a scam . It’s part of the stuff we have to deal with because we have no privacy rights and our private info is put out there for scammers to use.
@ RR
I will give them some of my DNA when I spit on their fake paperwork and send it back to them. They will be happy because they think I was stupid and provide my spit but in actuality, I let my dog Brutus lick the paper LOL
I’m confused. Isn’t Coinstar for loose change.
Cheorkee I understand your point about visiting relatives, course I have never tried to visit my brother in Florida or my other Sister in TN but if I needed to I’m sure there would be a way. Sure I was intimidated when I first got arrested back 14 yrs ago. Matter of fact the officer had to think of something to charge me with since I contradicted him. See I didn’t make a choice and he is the one that emphasized that.
I made a decision. The cop said whats the difference. Than he said well he would have to think of something else to charge me with. I knew their game plan. See I don’t fear man but I do fear God and we do have a difference between the OT and the New as in teachings. As far as news about this registry are not all men created equal, are we not endowed with inalienable rights, or are we to be compounded by government injustice even being compromised by some plea deal, right to speak out, or are we all guilty. Much of this registry is government glossing over their abuse on mankind.
Florida Today Reports:
November 2023 numbers
Status of sex offenders in Florida
Absconded 1,107
Civil Commitment 522
Confinement 20,249
Deceased 1,574
Deported 3,683
Released – Subject to Registration 52,691
Supervised – FL Dept of Corrections 7,177
Supervised – FL Dept of Juvenile Justice 8
Supervised – US Probation 941
https://data.floridatoday.com/sex-offenders/
Marion County Sheriff’s Office says any sex offender who participates in Halloween violates the law. What law?
https://www.wesh.com/article/marion-county-sheriffs-office-halloween-safety-operation/62769153
Yes. Those clueless cops and “news” people think that PFR’s and sex offense probationers are the same people. There are only state rules for halloween for probationers. And no Marion county ordinances that I’m aware of.
A couple of books I now recommend:
On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder
How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us Versus Them by Jason Stanley
Both authors are Yale professors so they know their stuff. Stanley’s book particularly relates to us because fascism (as anyone who is watching the political news today) has an obsession with ridding the nation of “undesirables”. Both books will prove very thought provoking.
Warning to Florida Action Committee Members on Out-of-State Travel Requirements:
I recently spoke with a trusted friend of mine for more than 30 years who is a Florida law enforcement officer regarding the new travel registration requirements outlined by the FDLE. These changes affect both in-state and out-of-state travel, with particular emphasis on out-of-state trips. Notably, the updated rules require a 48-hour notification to be made in person at the sheriff’s office either before travel or within 48 hours after returning.
What’s more concerning, however, is a comparison my friend made to these out-of-state requirements and international travel registration. My friend said law enforcement notifies the destination country about the incoming PFR, allowing that country the option to deny entry. My friend suggested that some sheriff’s offices in Florida may be applying a similar protocol for out-of-state travel. This means that local law enforcement might be alerting the destination state, county, or city of a registrant’s travel plans, potentially coordinating with the destination area for monitoring, tracking, or even arrest actions.
Your thoughts?
I thought it was standard operating procedure for Florida to notify other states when an out-of-state temporary or permanent residence is registered. I would actually be surprised if there’s not some kind of automated electronic notification system in place.
So registry is supposedly not punishment, but we seem to be the only class of people in the U.S that can get arrested for merely visiting a relative in another state. If you can be arrested for something, it is punitive. We are not being arrested for a law any other citizen could be arrested for, but for non-criminal behaviors that only we are held accountable for.
Why a supreme court judge can grow a pair and step up and defend our rights is beyond me. You take an oath to be fair but then throw us under the bus, even though most of us have long since done our time.
The state of Florida used the premise in 1997 that they were applying the S 0 act as a civil law only. Therefore, they applied it retroactively using the federal commerce claws to people who were already active in the system after Oct 01, 1997. The fist law out of Tallahassee allowed removal after 10 years when completing one’s sentence with no other convictions. Also, there was a confusion because it said that the law could NOT be applied to anyone who had their civil rights restored,. But would be applied to people who had adjudication withheld. And if one had adjudication withheld, one didn’t lose civil rights. But they applied it to everyone.
The law has evolution-ized to what it is today, very punitive and very unconstitutional. it’s been applied retroactively at will to folks whose cases can go back 40 years.
I think that the 11 Dist Court in doe vs swearin, got it right when they figured this could be a continued violation of doctrine for those who have been on the list since prior to 1997
Finally!
im glad someone else here remembers that it was 10 years then in mid 1998 it was changed i argued with a bunch of people including one that is a lawyer wanna be that was or may still be involved with fcat he made a hugh bet with me about this and lost and his payment was to talk crap about me
And each legislation gathering, they make a point to throw in at least one more pain point for us to live with. I have heard some on here who are not on probation but still getting multiple visits to their home from law enforcement, to the point of feeling like probation. (Visits past the 1,2 or 4 times a year compliance checks)
If you find an old library with the printed 1997 Fl Chapters it has it.
My mom is in her later years, in poor health, and when her time comes, her funeral will be in a FL county that has restrictions not only for living, but also travelling in “forbidden” areas. Naturally, it’s almost all “forbidden,” including the church she attended until the dementia progressed too far, which is where her funeral will most likely be held. I know I can use that as an excuse to go into that county, but the last thing I want is some self righteous person getting me locked back up for being there to say my goodbyes. So I have that obvious concern of whether or not to go when that time comes when my freedom is potentially at risk.
Vindicated
I do not see it being constitutional to be banned from a church or a funeral. When we cannot even attend worship services or a loved one’s funeral, they have stepped over the moral and legal line.
File the lawsuit, I bet once filed the governor will have second thoughts. These are basic rights that everyone has. Heck, even in prison I got to attend church services. I would stand with you on that one.
I have attended several churches over the years since my release and never, ever had an issue.
The Free Exercise Clause prevents the government from prohibiting the free exercise of individual religious beliefs. It also provides some protection for religious practices.
“either before travel or within 48 hours after returning” Sorry, that doesn’t make any sense at all. But it wouldn’t surprise me if that is what big government is doing, they aren’t exactly known for being smart or competent.
“People” who support the Registries are pathetic. They just keep grasping at dumber and dumber harassment in order to grow big government and the Registries. The awesome thing about this is while they are burning resources with this nonsense paperwork they are not doing anything to even try to prevent any actual crimes or certainly to solve any. All those crimes are happening while they are doing paperwork. I guess too bad for all the extra victims government fails to protect.
The funny thing about this BS too is that it just makes me enjoy every single day even more as I directly and empirically observe that the Registries do not protect anyone or anything. The Registries are not just worthless though, they are very counterproductive. They are a direct cause of a lot of extra crime, radicalization, and anti-social behavior. This kind of travel harassment does less than nothing. Good theater for dumb people though. Dummies eat it up.
Will
However, when WE are the victims of Registry crimes (When someone attacks us, or our property because we are on the registry) my sheriff’s office won’t even come out, they tell me to file a report which I do, but never even a follow up.
I have written so many of them that I actually gave up and do not even report anymore.
The registry created new types of crimes for vigilantes to commit, and basically get away with.
Of course they do. this is nothing new. It has always been the policy.
When I visit my mother in another state that jurisdiction always contacts me to confirm my plans and track me while visiting.
They have always notified your destinatin in the USA of your arrival, destinations and time of leaving their jurisdiction.
Why did you think that reporting was mandatory? Just for kicks?
And yet my constant destination (NY) doesn’t care as ive never been public on it and i was removed years ago. Its a total waste. The only list im on is the dumb florida one for some insane reason.
Hernando county information the county in the state you are traveling to. Just to covery ass I review the registration requirements for where I am going and call that counties svu ahead of time and let them know the plans, after that I go to my sheriff’s office and register my itinerary. ALWAYS check the laws of where you want to go.
Are many on the registry sexual predators or sexual offenders? I’m sure their is a difference. Sure we all want fairness and justice and not some improvable method type of injustice infraction. Yes we all look for a second chance, some type of redemption, pardon, or to explain our ordeal without compromise from injustice abuse by government. A plea deal is a compromise and not true justice.
While I am not sure many can vote due to this registry I think many should take a look at Kama la Harris as she does believe in redemption and second chance.https://www.c-span.org/video/?535184-101/vice-president-harris-chance-month-roundtable This whole sex registry has gotten out of hand since much of its inception and is unethical in many ways as the blind leading the blind. I believe it would be a good idea for FAC to channel these redeeming factors in stressing the need to bring common sense meaning to those that have gotten rapped up in much of this registry hi-jacking abuse. Making criminals out of people by this registry ruse.
Saddles
I do not think any president is wanting to weigh in on sex offenders, registries and our plight. They want votes and we cannot vote so we matter not. Same with judges, most believe relieving a sexual offender of their requirements, or ending registries is political suicide.
I still cannot fathom how they were able to retroactively apply it. Those who went to court once the registry was in place were able to at least ask for a deal since they are facing registration.
Myself and many others were pre-registry and if we knew what was coming, many, including myself would have gone to trial. But since there are no do overs, nothing we can do about it unless an important judge has some sympathy on us and gives us a chance to prove ourselves. (Think many of us already have with decades off the registry)
With the help of Ron Kleiner I was recently removed from the Florida registry and would like to visit Disney World with family. I have not visited since being on the Florida registry. Does anyone have any information or experience with Disney?
Doesnt really matter now that youre clear.
We have been told that they check driver’s licenses upon entry into the park. You will no longer have the compelled speech marking on your license, so I do not see how it would be a problem for you as they do not do background checks.
Your question is a good one. Let us know if you run into any problems.
Good luck.
Thanks, first thing did was obtain a new license without the Florida statue printed on it.
Congratulations JD! If you don’t mind sharing how did he get you off the register?
Thanks,
Mac
I had a military conviction for sexual assault (touching of buttocks) in 1999. Ron Kleiner filed paperwork with local US District Court in my county. It was unopposed so judge signed without my appearance in court. Still concerned about traveling out of Florida.
I’m happy for you. Do your best to enjoy life. Be a great citizen. You’re free again.
Freedom is precious.
I would do anything to be free again.
Lots of long lines, walking and standing. Get the lightning passes. As far as your past conviction, I have been to multiple theme parks without incident. Although you are no longer on the registry, try not to present your id if you can help it. I am always with my wife and kids and she handles the tickets which is when they ask for id.
Why would any sane person want to spend money at a place that bans us. Even though you can go once you are off the registry, why spend money on a business that chooses to exclude us from sharing a good time with their family? It is not the courts telling them to ban us, rather they choose to do so.
They won’t get a damn dime from me.
ST. LOUIS (AP) — Many states have laws designed to keep children away from convicted sexual offenders on Halloween night, such as curfews for those on offender registries and requirements to keep their porch lights off.
But a Missouri law mandating a sign at the offender’s home was a step too far, a judge ruled.
A 2008 law required registered offenders in Missouri to post signs on Oct. 31 that read “No candy or treats at this residence.” U.S. District Judge John Ross ruled this month that the provision violated the First Amendment by forcing “compelled speech,” depriving those on the registry “of their freedom to speak in their own words or to not speak at all.”
The ruling lets stand other provisions of the Missouri law that require people on the registry on Halloween to remain inside their home from 5 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. and to leave their outdoor lights off.
If this is the case for which Janice Bellucci is the attorney, it is being appealed. Why is beyond me. Apparently the Missouri attorney general has not seen all the other cases in the middle of the country and in North Florida where the signs have been ruled as compelled speech.
Thought this was a good article
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/why-sex-offenders-register-at-gas-stations-grocery-stores/85-5b9343e5-090e-4e2a-9e77-e94f919b20e2
Hopefully with the McGuire v. Alabama case being appealed to the 11th Circuit (Alabama, Florida, Georgia) this could no longer have to be a way of life.
I feel like the media doesn’t show how much of the towns are off limits due to residency restrictions that are increased every year and once you moved out you can’t move back in clause effectively creating a neighborhood free community by design.
I wish they would show a Time-lapse span it every five years and show how much of each square mile of the town is chopped off each single time. Then over lap it with working restrictions exclusion zone as well show how the homelessness of registrants have increased year by year when these statutes were passed.
By new legislation purposely aimed at excluding us from areas to live at forcing us purposely to cluster in locations, there’s not enough housing for all of these locations, forcing the people who can live there to pay more rent to live there since they know that they can charge more since they’re registrants. Then you are forced to stay at a location because your grandfather in but now the residency restrictions have gone from 1,000 feet to 2,500 feet while you lived there Meanwhile every new subdivisions has a park in the middle of it for the family so you can forget that community, yet your tax dollars help paved for its roads being built.
How can they say with a straight face that these impacts felt are only collateral consequences of our crime. But the registry is not supposed to be punitive is supposed to be civil, but when all the effects you feel only punitive, how can they say with a straight face is collateral consequence time and time again?
Their crimes did not make them homeless the state legislators after the fact of their sentence by constantly increasing distant requirements made people homeless that’s not collateral consequences that’s vindictiveness by blatant intent by openly calling for the execution of us from our communities. Any other time that person would be admonished for their behavior but no when they openly commit these acts the fellow legislators and council members stand up and appalled.
This story is absolutely barbaric what is happening to these people.
Eugene
The powers that be wave a special wand and the general public accepts magically that nothing they do to us is punishment. Of course, there are those who wish so much punishment on us that they would be would happy if we were tortured and hung in public.
I have come to accept that most of us will never be removed from the registry. I wrote a comment a few months back about how there are 1000s of dead people on the registry. If they cannot be removed, how do we expect to.
And just to note, even if you are eligible to be removed, it is not automatic, and the judge is not required to remove you even if you followed every rule and had no violations or arrests.
@Jack.
It’s hard NOT to take any of this personal, but once you understand that we’ve been commodified by capitalism for passive income by the locals for guaranteed passive income, it all makes sense. We ARE victims because our misery is being monitized. We’re made out to be the scary carnival freaks in an Online circus.
They will always cite “public safety” and “recidivism” (ignoring facts, low-threat dynamics and reality) to rationalize and justify this unconstitutional mission creep.
you hit the nail on the head its all about $$$
like rick scott and private prisons.
DETROIT – In the latest in a long string of judicial decisions holding Michigan’s Sex Offenders Registration Act (SORA) unconstitutional, U.S. District Judge Mark A. Goldsmith struck down significant portions of the law in a decision released late last week. The court’s decision in the class action lawsuit, Does III v. Whitmer, will affect tens of thousands of people and follows two recent rulings by the Michigan Supreme Court, as well as numerous federal court decisions dating back to 2013, finding constitutional problems with Michigan’s registry.
In a 115-page opinion the court upheld some aspects of the registry, but – as in the prior decisions – again found multiple constitutional violations including:
The registration of people who did not commit sex offenses;
The retroactive extension of registration terms to life;
Harsher treatment of people with non-Michigan convictions; and
Violations of registrants’ First Amendment rights.
Mac
All of us hate registries, but those of us who were retroactively applied years after being sentenced, is especially concerning. For example, a person who commits a crime and knows well there is a registry, at least knew what they were facing.
Those of us who were arrested and sentenced before the registry, had no say in the court room, and for me personally, I would have changed my plea if the registry had been in place. And the fact that every year they add new add-ons like they just did in Florida, makes it even more scary due to more tip toeing through the landmines of new laws that could send us back to prison.
I totally agree with you, Florida is very draconian.
Here is more of the Michigan decision:
The class action lawsuit brought eleven constitutional challenges on behalf of the more than 45,000 people on Michigan’s registry.
The court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs on six claims, including rulings that:
Retroactively extending registration terms from 25 years to life violates the Constitution.
In-person reporting requirements imposed in 2011 cannot be applied to pre-2011 registrants.
People who were not convicted of a sexual offense cannot be subjected to SORA without a judicial hearing.
Michigan cannot impose harsher registration requirements on people with out-of-state convictions than on people with Michigan convictions. Such individuals must receive a judicial hearing to determine their registration requirements.
SORA’s requirements to report internet identifiers like email and social media accounts violate registrants’ First Amendment rights.
Forcing registrants to attest that they understand SORA, even if they do not, is unconstitutional compelled speech.
Under the court’s decision:
About 17,000 people will be removed after they complete 25 years on the registry without another registrable offense.
More than 3,000 people with out-of-state convictions will be entitled to a judicial determination of their registration requirements.
A judicial hearing will be required if the state seeks to keep about 300 people on the registry based on convictions for non-sex offenses.
The in-person reporting requirements will change for about 31,000 people and the internet reporting requirements will change for about 14,000 people.
The court ruled against the plaintiffs on three claims involving individualized review,
why do you think that every state says the same thing: “convicted on or after 19??, or still serving sanctions on that date”? which makes it ex post facto. Clearly, not all states can be that oblivious to the constitution.
Just want to bring attention to this article https://theappeal.org/south-florida-sex-offense-homeless-population-spikes/ today officially marks the day that you may arrest the homeless person if they refuse services of a shelter.
In Florida there a few places have shelters for registrants through homeless very few places rent to registrants high portion of registrants are homeless are chronically very close to becoming homeless at any given time. Supposedly, they’ll give you every opportunity to help you before they arrest you is what they say.
However, in supreme court case California versus Robinson, you cannot arrest somebody for simply a status crime.
12. The designation of a person as a sexual offender is not a sentence or a punishment but is simply the status of the offender which is the result of a conviction for having committed certain crimes.”
-Florida legislator 943.0435
If you look up the Supreme Court cases of the recent grant pass homeless case which is about cruel and unusual punishment for a status offense of homeless people and the California versus Robertson case which was the status about a drug addict and the Texas court case which was the status about being drunk in public, which was conduct which is punishable and they’re saying the case Grants Pass is applying to everybody not just homeless people so it’s not a status crime its being evenly forced upon everybody thing however, in Florida, we are banned from a lot of stuff simply for our status. This act simply criminalizes being a registered homeless individual with incarceration for simply living as a registrant in the state.
lets go after shady grady
https://all4consolaws.org/2024/09/ca-federal-court-ruling-leads-to-removal-of-mugshots-on-lake-county-sheriffs-office-website/
-Whatever happened to the expo facto case “doe v. SWEARINGEN” with convictions prior to 1997 that was sent back to the lower court by the 11th District Court ? Was that case canceled by the judge ?
In our recent legal update post at our site, the first sentence says, “Our Ex Post Facto I case in the Southern District is currently in standby but is still alive.” One of the attorneys, Val Jonas, has asked FAC to gather some data for her, which we have been doing. Court cases can take a long time, unfortunately. Nothing happened with this case for a long time as the judge appeared to be waiting for the Ex Post Facto II case in the Northern District to be completed. Now that it has, movement has started in the Ex Post Facto I case in the Southern District that you are referring to.
Our post where the one-sentence statement was made concerning the current status of our Ex Post Facto I case:
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/updates-on-fac-legal-team/
Meta/Facebook/Instagram owner Mark Zuckerberg told the US Congress in a letter yesterday: “Zuckerberg wrote. “Our platforms are for everyone – we’re about promoting speech and helping people connect in a safe and secure way.” If that’s true Mr. Zuckerberg, why do you ban people who are forced to register as sex offenders (compelled speach) in Florida from your international platforms?
LOL
as long as we are on the registry, we might as well still be in prison. I think I had more rights and freedoms in prison than I do now off of sanctions (Because so much has changed since then)
And if anyone is fooled, all the sanctions on us are only going to get worse as they pass the test on each new banning that passes muster from the courts.
Surprised we do not have patches on our clothes like some did in Germany during WWII identifying us as undesirables. Of course I guess the registry does that for us huh?
You got to be kidding
Supreme Court of Missouri cherry picks quotes to say the registry is not punishment https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/supreme-court/2024/sc100296.html
How is the registry exempt, immune and insulated from being a form of cyberbully and doxxing? These judges would rather let our houses burn down than risk their own houses being burned down by continuing to lie, distort and mislead with “their” distorted version of “not punishment”.
Every time a “not punishment” ruling is rendered from a court, it sets us back years – if not decades!