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Ohio seems to be seeing the light about housing for ALL Felons INCLUDING those with sexual offenses, H.B. 50 has recently been amended and only 3 steps away from becoming law that will allow ALL Misdemeanors and Felons coming out of jail or prison the opportunity to find housing. People going on the registry will still have to comply with all registration requirements and any geographical restrictions, but are given equal chance at finding residence and I think employment as well.
This is another step in the right direction. The tenor of the Bill is to help cut down recidivism of all felons by giving them the opportunity to reintegrate back into society through hosing and employment. To deny people with sexual offenses of the same opportunity would be in essence saying ‘We want them to fail and only them and go back to prison’ which vicariously would make them guilty of supporting recidivism, so this Bill looks like a step in the right direction.
03/10/2024. DeSantis just signed bill hb1235. – What are the changes we should be concerned with here ?
I would be very concerned with this one https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/1131
The online stings bill. Who is to say they don’t use the money to target registrants in the areas. They have to spend the money otherwise they won’t receive a grant, the grant is given yearly so more people on the so division payroll. With more people on the so division more time they have to devoting to one of 100s of small nuances to check up on we have to make sure we’re legit on otherwise they got another one. Then it will be “Let’s expand the budget even more.”
Also each failure to register is now a separate charge.
Folks, the online sting grant program is not targeted to registrants, though it likely will create new ones.
An online sting program targeted to registrants would be unlikely to work, because it’s usually not registrants who are doing the offending.
HB 1235 establishes stricter guidelines for sexual offender registration. This bill:
Prevents sex offenders from using a temporary residence to avoid registration;
Requires sex offenders to register vehicles and vessels used as living quarters with the state;
Requires international travel to be reported ahead of time;
Makes it more difficult to qualify for registration removal.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2024/04/10/live-gov-desantis-head-of-florida-dmv-hold-news-conference-in-st-petersburg/
I saw that on the news the other day but couldn’t find anything online to post on here. I read your link and does not sound good. Two points, more harsher registration requirements and harder to get off the registry.
Guess the governor doesn’t like the ruling from the supreme court. Also seems these are all retro-active. The more they make, eventually some judge has got to make this stop as it, in my opinion, has well passed punishment.
On a side note, our friend on here who died on the registry last year is still on there. 🙁
Short summary of all the new laws https://flvoicenews.com/desantis-signs-new-laws-aiming-to-protect-children-from-sexual-predators/
On March 29 someone using the handle “mac”. I have been using the handle Mac on FAC for a long time. I do not want to be associated with the postings of this person “mac”.
I contacted FAC about this but so far I have not received a reply.
More restrictions for Volusia https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2024/04/02/volusia-county-ok-longer-distances-for-sex-predators-from-schools-playgrounds/
For all Harper v. Glass questions, please refer to Val Jonas’ post:
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/statement-from-attorney-val-jonas-on-impact-of-judge-hinkles-order/
Does anyone with a pacer account know what we asked in our status report
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/25861536/Does,_15_v_Swearingen
Southern Court, can’t really rule until the northern court rules.
I looked it up (very new to using Pacer) and it appears we just updated that case with the ruling from Harper v. Glass, per Judge Williams’ order in November.
Thanks
The Southern District of Florida Court in the Doe case has stayed the proceedings at the request of both parties because there could be additional litigation in the Harper case such as post-judgment motions or an appeal. The parties have an additional 60 days to update the Court on the Harper case before proceeding any further in the Doe case.
Congratulations to Val and her hard work on the Harper v. Glass case in the federal northern district of Florida. Today’s order strikes down as unconstitutional the in-state, in-person reporting requirements and the duplicative requirement to report to DMV when traveling in-state for more than 3 days. The FDLE Commissioner is now required to offer on-line reporting to registrants who are traveling in-state for more than 3 days. He has 60 days to do so according to the order. Again, thank you Val for all your hard work!!
I’d there any opionon or final version of this decision anywhere? I can’t seem to find it??
Ron Book again lobbing to expand a sales tax to fund his organization https://www.local10.com/video/this-week-in-south-florida/2024/03/24/this-week-in-south-florida-ron-book/
How can registered citizens be bar from a public good service.
When the man in charge of the public good is Ron Book.
So I came across this court case https://law.justia.com/cases/florida/third-district-court-of-appeal/2023/3d22-1416.html the state uses this line to say the registry is not punishment but simply a status of one’s crime. And if you go to sites like these https://www.flcourts.gov/Resources-Services/Office-of-Family-Courts/Family-Court-in-Florida/Delinquency/Resources/Common-Acronyms-Terms you will constantly see that offense crime only apply to juveniles.
So you see the definition of a status crime “Status Offenses: Things a youth may do that are not illegal for an adult, such as truancy, running away, or underage drinking.”
And looking at the history of the status offense legislation intent https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/juvenile-law-status-offenses-32227.html#:~:text=For%20the%20most%20part%2C%20state,committing%20crimes%20in%20the%20future. For the most part, state goals in dealing with status offenses became threefold:
* to preserve families
* to ensure public safety, and
* to prevent young people from becoming delinquent or committing crimes in the future.
So, if Florida State legislator is going to use the line, registration is simply the status of your crime, and they’re going to categorize it as a status crime and status crimes originated from juvenile issues that wouldn’t be a crime committed by an adult and the structure had three purposes.
How can it be not be viewed as punishment when the registry breaks up families
How can it insure public safety when the registry shows most were 1st time offenders
The legislative shows the intent is to ratchet up the restrictions year after year.
Applied to juveniles a status crime is viewed as trying to preserve those 3 things
Applied to registrants a status crime inflict punishment openly on these 3 measures yet it’s legal.
If the goal with a status offense is those 3 measures how can it be a status offense if those 3 measures are not the intent when applied to us.
Tennessee needs to get rid of community supervision for life as well. It’s also unconstitutional and it violated the ex post facto clause as well. Meaning double jeopardy. We all made mistakes in the past so why should we be punished further for a conviction that we all served our full sentence out? We were never given parole nor probation, so why are we being supervised by TDOC officials. This is a form of slavery and hate which is against the United States Constitution. It is a secondary prison sentence. Why do we need to be placed on ankle monitors told to go to a treatment program and then take polygraphs which are not accurate in the first place that’s why the United States supreme Court stated they are admissable because they are deceptive 50/50 on them. But all this additional stuff that tdoc forces on us is illegal and unconstitutional it is slavery. It’s a form of NAZISM. Tennessee might as well just give anyone with a sex offender the death penalty, because that’s what this CSL is .
Has FAC looked into contacting a tax law attorney. DeSantis signed the homeless bill in Miami and he championed its way of doing business. The city is contracted by the https://www.homelesstrust.org/homeless-trust/about-us/home.page. The homeless trust gets its funding from a 1 percent sales tax on sales in the Miami area. Registrants are barred from the homeless trust resources. There has got to be some statute that the government cannot use its own citizens funds against that citizen. If I’m being taxed, I should be allowed to use the tax item that I’m being taxed on right. How can a registrant in Miami not have standing to sue when they are barred from using a service that the government taxes them on. Then we have it straight from the source https://www.axios.com/local/miami/2024/03/20/florida-law-desantis-homeless-camps-public-sleeping Ron Book doesn’t plan on any camps being built in the Miami Beach area. How is that not strategic banishment?
With the local communities being on the hook for these homeless camps maybe a Tax lawyer might be a way to attack it. So a local sales tax props up the homeless camps, but registrants cannot use a services of the camps, and that model may spread to other cities but registrants are barred from the model that they use in Miami so maybe we can jump ahead of the curve since more than likely counties will use a local sales tax to fund the camps however, registrants may be barred from using the services of the camps. Is there anything illegal about using And denying a local tax source funds from a citizen them bar them from that service in Florida? Federal? It would be pretty funny to see Ron Book and his organization hand FAC a check for the denying services to taxpaying citizens.
Does Miami Homeless Trust bar registrants from accessing its resources? Or is that more a function of Miami-Dade’s SORR ordinance?
I assumed Miami Homeless Trust was the only homeless service with a dedicated sales tax as its funding source. Are we saying there are other such homeless trusts here in FL? Would we discourage them from being funded by tax revenue?
Does the new law signed by DeSantis require municipalities to provide any services to homeless persons? Or does it mostly just lay out what they can not do?
Are we really willing to accept 1% off of our sales taxes, in exchange for continued denial of services to homeless registrants? Because that seems to me to be the final outcome of a successful challenge as Eugene describes it. Better, I think, to fight for more equitable homeless resource access regardless of who is paying the tax.
And that’s even if we have a case. Many people pay taxes for services they can’t access. FL does not, for example, exempt elderly homeowners from the school tax. Do we know of any successful challenges to the contrary?
Tax laws, hard to look up I spent a better part of yesterday, trying to find anything to use as an anchoring of a court case to see if we even had a basis to maybe sue under discrimination of a state sanction tax excluding us from being provided by goods and services. But it’s hard to find any court cases where people are facing the kind of discrimination we are in this.
I think the school tax is different because you could have a kid at one time so that service you could need you could have had a fire. Therefore, you should have a tax with the money goes to the fire department however, we could become homeless, but we cannot access the services that are available for the homeless I think they’re in lies the difference between the school tax being applied to older people who at one time chose to have children or not, and the school was there to provide services for them versus our situation. Also, the school continues to provide a service that the community uses that doesn’t exclude anybody for who the service is provided for.
Loss in Illinois https://ilcourtsaudio.blob.core.windows.net/antilles-resources/resources/862957b0-57a5-4485-9ac3-be91f70be527/Kopf%20v.%20Kelly,%202024%20IL%20127464.pdf
You know we all talk about these sex sting operations, the probation, incarceration and other ordeals that many go thru but is it the way that seems right. I mean to trap, force, pressure, entice, or persuade another into coming down to meet this person that basically turns out, ( in truth) to be a police officer. That’s not really justice or fair play of any type. Its more of a choke hold of bondage.
Where is the Christian morality in this? Sure using the sword in vain the right way to protect and serve is good. So were does reasoning come into play in all this or not the God Given Commandants not at play today. Well believe it or not they are at play yet we are all carnal and true justice is like a plea deal of passing the buck. Are we all upset…. I would say all of us are.
I’ve always believed that the lifetime sex offender registry (especially Florida’s) was a implementation for encampments in a futuristic endeavor/agenda of our world.this may be the next step. Whether one calls it the New World Order or something else, they have slowly planned/tested how to control/monitor individuals in mass. So sad that the so- called justice (claimed to protect) had come as an angel of light because many who see with spiritual eyes know that the enemy typical disguises as such light.
Whenever the government has to give money as an incentive to implement laws, one should always question why would they have to if a good idea or take away rights of counties within a state to reinforcing it. Pray that people awaken to the truth of what they aren’t able to see but to what is happening right before their America’s eyes.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/desantis-signs-bill-banning-homeless-people-from-sleeping-in-parks-public-spaces/ar-BB1keLga
https://www.clickorlando.com/getting-results/2023/11/01/career-criminal-unit-makes-sure-volusia-sex-predators-offenders-follow-the-rules/
This article buttons down the vast requirements of control. If the media repeatedly televises a specific matter, one can bet it’s agenda driven.
Thanks, ‘just sayin’’’, for the article.
So sheriff Judd big bust in Florida 16 registrants were arrested however looking at what most were arrested for it just petty stuff. https://westorlandonews.com/detectives-charge-central-florida-registered-sexual-offenders-and-predators/
Although “petty”.. theses arrests were mostly for vehicle or liscense violations.. could have been prevented…… been on registry since 1998.. refuse to allow myself to give the state that opportunity to arrest me..
I am so glad I do not live in one of the Florida counties whose Sheriff is Hell bent on looking for issues that do not exist just to re-arrest someone on the registry. That is why I moved over 20 years ago from the county I lived in. I was getting 3 to 4 visits a day from city police, Sheriff’s office, even once from the FDLE agents.
Meanwhile, people are getting robbed, car jacked, kidnapped and old people having their home deeds stolen and their houses taken by crooks, yet law enforcement does nothing but go after the easy pickings and low hanging fruit.
Are Volusia deputies the real predators? This article gives insight into their intentions.
https://www.clickorlando.com/getting-results/2023/11/01/career-criminal-unit-makes-sure-volusia-sex-predators-offenders-follow-the-rules/
Louisiana bill: any person convicted of a sex offense shall be subject to a vasectomy.
https://legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=1346582
Okay that sounds completely unconstitutional. Cruel and unusual punishment. Second, what about someone who committed a felony that has already had a vasectomy? Third, what about the occasional female that ends up on the registry? How is this bill even logical?
Would be very interesting if the person is a woman
Just like the Bible intended, right?
https://www.wired.com/story/florida-teens-arrested-deepfake-nudes-classmates/
Another case of kids potentially being placed on the registry.
Here is another YouTube video which might be of interest and add under a created playlist at FAC YouTube channel.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wuKcInKFQPw