Certiorari DENIED in Snyder and Karsjens – SCOTUS and Florida Sex Offenders

News from SCOTUS on Sexual Offender Laws

It’s now official – Certiorari has been denied in Snyder and Karsjens

What’s next for Florida Sexual Offenders?

Our position on Snyder from last week stands. That was; if the SCOTUS felt there were no reviewable issues in the 6th Circuit Decision finding the registration requirements constituted ex post facto PUNISHMENT, this is not a bad outcome.

We now must move forward with our own challenge.

38 thoughts on “Certiorari DENIED in Snyder and Karsjens – SCOTUS and Florida Sex Offenders

  • October 3, 2017

    A point of interest: Karsjens v. Piper was denied cert BUT the amicus brief from ATSA was granted. SCOTUS now has a document that was prepared by professional therapists in their grasps to review. Snyder was a win but this acceptance of an amicus brief supporting the “truth” about sex offenders is ALSO a win.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/100217zor_o7jp.pdf

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  • October 3, 2017

    When is there going to be light @ the end of the tunnel……much needed a good vacation after being registered for 26 years/(SOR) without being worried if it exceeds more than 5 days or adding that vacation to my list of temporary address…..Is that the ex-post Facto?

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    • October 3, 2017

      That’s one component of it.

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  • October 3, 2017

    I’m in.

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  • October 2, 2017

    I would like to be part of the suit for Florida.

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    • October 2, 2017

      Fill out a Case Consideration Form

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  • October 2, 2017

    We understand that this only is valid in the states of Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio and Tennessee, and only for those persons who had to enter the registry and all it’s onerous requirements AFTER their sentences were handed down before these issues were made into law, however, SCOTUS returned the denial without comment so how long do you think it will take these states to comply as the court seemed to leave it open

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    • October 2, 2017

      According to news reports they will be making changes to their registry.
      Seek counsel as to which requirements you should follow and which would not be enforceable against you.

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      • October 2, 2017

        This whole thing effects me greatly, my only question is since it is now law and being my conviction was in 1992 before Michigan had a registry and that I was not ordered by a Judge to register ,therefore violating my right to due process, and then being forced to register in 1995 simply because I was still on parole until 1996, wouldn’t I be one of the one, who should be removed from the registry completely, since I should of never been on it to begin with in the first place.

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        • October 3, 2017

          Bobby, FAC cannot answer that question. We are a Florida based group. You will need to have a Michigan attorney answer that for you.

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        • October 4, 2017

          I wound’t get you hopes up too high as the BASE level registry is still considered to be valid by the SCOTUS

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  • October 2, 2017

    Still wondering if this has any benefit to folks moving to a 6th District State whose offense pre-dates the registry? Any advise greatly appreciated.

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    • October 2, 2017

      The prior decision from the 6th CIRCUIT stands. If you are moving to a state within the 6th CIRCUIT (or already live there), you are benefited.

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      • October 2, 2017

        If one is being considered for the class action suit against floriduh for ex-post facto challenge and moves to a state under the purview of the 6th district, is one still allowed to be included in the class action suit if their case is deemed worthy of challenge by the FAC lawyers?

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        • October 2, 2017

          Unlikely – plaintiffs would need to be present for hearings and depos

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          • October 2, 2017

            What if plaintiff were available to travel at own expense to said hearings and depositions.

            I would still like to be a part of getting the state of floriduh to adhere to its own and the US’s Constitutions. Inasmuch, were my case accepted as one worthy of inclusion, I would make any and all necessary appearances at my own expense. For as I understand it, even death does not remove one from the floriduh registry.

            Again, my case involves single act in 1991; adjudicated in 1992. The registry is an affront to not only me, but to far too many similarly situated.

          • October 3, 2017

            Fill out a case consideration form

          • October 4, 2017

            Even if you are out of state, you are still on the Florida registry forever.

          • October 5, 2017

            You are correct Joe, as I understand it, if you manage to take the old eternal dirt-nap, floriduh keeps you on the registry.

            Thanks for the information though. Hate being on the registry here, there or anywhere. Was just hopeful that all the other accouterments floriduh has added over the years would go away.

          • October 5, 2017

            I’m not going anywhere. Just waiting to hear.

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