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Oral arguments for Henry vs state of Georgia 11th circuit oral arguments https://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/oral_argument_recordings/24-10139_08132024.mp3
In regards to registrants allowed for overnight stays with their children
Bad audio. This is from 8/13 just came across this.
“In my single days, I often sent funds to women I dated—even some I never dated but who asked. I dated several of these women for years. I NEVER had sexual contact with someone under 18. Any claim that I have would be destroyed in court—which is why no such claim was ever made in court,” Gaetz wrote. “It’s embarrassing, though not criminal, that I probably partied, womanized, drank and smoked more than I should have earlier in life. I live a different life now.”
Umm. What is he saying? Someone break down the words. I’m not a psychologist but I smell dishonesty.
Matt needs to be dropped off on the Island of Misfit toys with the rest of us He is no better than us and his “I did not have sex with minors” argument didn’t work for Bill Clinton either.
He wants a free pass and a reset button while he’ll keep us from EVER getting the same second chance. F him. Something must be in the water in Coral Springs as to why this guy kept getting reelected.
You know you guys seem to be hitting on something about this punitive justice if one wants to call it that. Sure their are pro’s and con’s in all types of justice.
Punitive is just a type of justice and just another form of probation. Their are several types of justice such as retributive, restorative, political justice,even criminal justice to name a few although who is being blinded by all this.
Sure we all want justice and the only justice is true justice not some backyard form of cat house justice Its like a prohibition with many holes in it
I agree. Don’t forget back door justice.
Has anyone seen how A I defines this google question?
Type in the following, “Florida sex registry punitive”
A I says the registry is punitive.
Quick someone send this to the president and ask for a pardon. And a refund on the last 28 years of my life.
@P
I hear you loud and clear. The problem is, the law makers have to say it is punitive and most of them won’t. Until that happens, or the Supreme court gets a heart and a soul, we have to step on thin ice for the rest of our lives.
What I cannot understand is, some sheriff’s offices are making people pay a fee for registering and they say it is an “Administrative” fee. Well so was my probation fees. And both, if you do not pay, you could be arrested. How is that not punitive?
Since going to jail is punitive, it makes sense that the thing that sent you there would also be deemed punitive. But logic does not prevail in this scenario.
I will never pay to register. If they arrest me I will go to jail and through their actions bring this issue up in courts and appeals. Since the Attorney would cost me nothing and I already am a prisoner of the system I would lose nothing. Being forced to pay for the registry is definitely punitive and amounts to the same thing as a fine or court costs.
Court costs are imposed as a punishment and described to offset the cost of prosecution thus any administrative cost that is imposed for the registry is substantially the same under the legal definition and would be considered punitive. The argument is sound and needs to be brought to light.
I have to agree with Cheorkee about this harassment that some may be going thru. On another note are we all looking at this sex registry with the right frame of mind. In my own encounter the LE had to come up with something to charge me with since I never made a choice rather a decision. He came up with the word action and well actions speak louder than words but in many of these actions are authorities doing the right action. Such as in a plea bargain given before going to trial, or the actions of letting LE know where your going, how long you are going to stay. These are just a few actions or examples, call them rules if you like.
Sounds complicated but what was the moral action in even the sex sting operation done via internet or the lifetime probation many face after being in prison? Nothing wrong with standing up to big brother and yes their actions appear to be wrong in many ways. What a Christian nation we have today.
Being left out of society so to speak with these harassing rules and regulations is a bit anti-Christian by those in authority. Even looking at video that Hard Reality posting is shocking for anyone but that’s
reality. My hopes this coming year is many on the registry fight for truth in all this registry ruse.
The Books: good news and crazy news that I just discovered. Lauren Book no longer in Senate due to term limits – Yea!. Ron Book nominated for 2024 Nobel Peace Prize, in recognition of decades of advocacy and nonprofit work – Insane!
@RayO
I didn’t know they handed out Nobel Peace prizes for harassing people. How on God’s glorious Earth is that peace? So make everyone suffer because of one person who they had a bad experience with, in their past?
My Bible says to love others, forgive and move on. It may not be easy but it feels good when you release the pain.
this is said but there’s a statistic at the 11 min mark that is important to all of us not sure where they got that number though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCw_5gfBzVs
@Hard
I watched some of this video (I have been to prison) but this was very sad watching these elderly folks just waiting to die and maybe never getting to see freedom again. I finally had to stop watching. I am not a whimp, but it did upset me watching this.
Some of them may have done some horrible things in their past but everyone deserves quality health care. I had to call my parents while I was locked up because the prison refused to treat me, and I was on deaths door.
My parents called an attorney and the next day I was sent to a special hospital ward in the prison and stayed there for a month. If I had not made that call to my parents, I would have died.
glad you have someone to call. being on hit list has made me mental now as im a loner home body no friends or family and as i get older its very hard for me. not sure whats going to happen. but i just cant wait till my time on earth is up.
Ditto here. There’s actually one helpful thing the registry has done for me – I no longer fear death.
it is something i actually am looking forward to the longer im in this isolation of hell from the hit list! scared to even wipe my butt as that may break some strange law.