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Ok follks here’s your chance to get a reviewed or addressed again for a second chance in this registry ordeal. And yes with the help of all advocates we may have a window opened to us to sound out about this registry ordeal that is effecting many. A proper prospective is always good. Here is an article about second chances from the President. And yes Biden knows what forgiveness and pardons are all about.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/12/12/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-providing-clemency-for-nearly-1500-individuals-on-home-confinement-and-pardons-for-39-individuals-convicted-of-non-violent-crimes/
I am sure all the advocates should take note of this also as no one likes to be gaslighted. With Gods’ will many can be given a second chance to be heard and even the one’s that are still in prisons, jails, or on probation. Happy New Year.
I am sure many have morals about much of this registry as thy shall not kill, steal, etc… This registry is stealing many of peoples liberty. Many of these would be considered coercive acts. And yes guys this registry is forcing many to do something against their will. Coercive act 1774
While “coercive acts” themselves are not inherently illegal, depending on the specific actions involved, they can be considered illegal if they violate existing laws or involve threats, intimidation, or undue influence to force someone to do something against their will, effectively constituting coercion as a legal offense in many jurisdictions.
Cherokee I know you were just trying to make a point so forgive me. Are not we all trying to make a point about this registry. Even the advocates that went to D.C a few years ago were trying to make a point about these unfair registry issues. Not to many seemed to listen in American Government.
One can agree and disagree on a lot of things but when the truth comes out can we blame it on circumstances that were provoked in many ways by callous actions of government or should we google it today and see what the proper method is to keep a vigilantee down.
Advocates know how unfair this registry is to many that have gotten abused by it.. Inducing evil to prevent evil. Is that governments standard of justice today? Whether one is considered an offender or not all have principals in every issue. So that,s why we stand
Ok Temper Will Allen, Cheorkee why get upset, what are we all fighting for. I would think the main thing is justice not who’s an offender or an X – Do we not all offend in thought and deed? One wonders should we all say Give me liberty or give me death? Are not we all bond slaves to this registry ordeal or are we all still back in Egypt being slaves. Is government in their antics abusing many on the registry either before or after their sentence or time served for their greedy abuses to be seen by men all in the name of public safety. Talk about getting hit by a streetcar named desire.
Do we all choose our words carefully when asking for a redress of grievance in a court situation or is this registry man’s thinking and actions to upset one’s liberty. Talk about a coercive act by government in this protection issue. Is serving the public also an illegal act of coercive in many ways. Has government gone bad even going against a person’s God given liberty to voice or speak out. And yes government has gone bad in several area’s.
One can talk about Christian liberty or Social liberty but if one doesn’t have Christian liberty or understanding even ethics than this country is going to the dogs even with the many unethical laws on the books. Or is it ethical to live in outer space or on the moon.
Nicely said. I wonder how much more Florida and Federal changes and local changes are coming? When this started for me in 1997.. the list was just a piece of paper on the sheriffs desk. Nothing else. The local court did their job. I took the medicine of responsibility and restorative justice. In fact the DA is upset with Florida for re-listing me. He said justice was served. Go figure, a DA who is upset that his judgment was not enough. A slap in the face to his integrity and intelligence.
I choose Florida to live now. But I also choose to fight retroactively applied punishment until it’s removed. Time to go get it done.
Saddles
I was not fighting or arguing, I was making a point. That point was just my opinion and opinions are allowed in the United states. No one has to agree with anything I say. I was sharing my opinion. No one agrees with everything someone says. Fighting among ourselves is what the people who hate us want us to do.
So many on here have gotten fed up and stopped coming on here.
I come on here because there are no other groups for us to support each other but if everyone is going to be nasty, eventually everyone will leave the site.
Looks like Matt Gaetz -Trump’s former nominee for AG and a mastermind of Florida’s impossibly punitive SOR- could end up on Florida’s SOR… irony of ironies.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/23/matt-gaetz-ethics/77077306007/
If he escapes charges….
The system is so broken.
I’m not a slave or soldier.
So many of us have been lifers for years and decades. So many of us have paid the price to society.
If Gaetz escapes…. Time to flood the FDLE with petitions for removal. and go public with each case. We are already public property. I want to start a walking picket in front of court houses and call the Narsol people down here and shake hands and go public with the end result of De-registration for anyone with 20 years of no prior convictions to be immediately released. 20 years is long enough. Time to redraw the line in the sand Mr Trump. Time for logic to prevail. Show me how to Make America Great.
Show us respect and restore our freedom.
@P
ONE day on the registry is too much. Especially when retro-actively applied.
What’s next, researching sex offenses that happened in the 1800s so they can place them on the registry to get more funding. That is all it is about, funds to create jobs for registry compliance.
That didn’t take long. Both County sheriff says no victim has come forward to either office. Statute of limitations.
Huh? So……. Go interview her and ask the questions that should be asked.
We need funds for detective work to bring light to poor legislation from bad characters. Too many of us are getting railroaded. Too many of us are ready to rejoin the ranks of society. Too many of us are ready to contribute to society in a meaningful way. Too many people believe sex offenders are incapable of making permanent change. This is not true.
@P
Please us “Ex-offenders” unless that person is still offending. The label should not represent us for the rest of our lives unless we are actively offending.
We have been intoned with thinking we are sex offenders for something many of us did decades ago. I am not my past.
You are correct
Hey, I enjoy your comments. But “ex-offenders” is no good. Who all are we going to call that? I kind of like “ex-drunk drivers who ‘accidentally’ killed someone”. And “ex-child abusers” and “ex-wife beaters”. Do all those work or should I call all of them “ex-offenders”?
How about “ex-cheater” or “ex-liar”? Those work or should I use “ex-offender” for those too?
If we are using labels and calling names, then we are going to continue to have the same hateful, dumb Amerika that we have. We could try to improve it.
Anyway, I prefer “Person Forced to Register (PFR)”. That is accurate. I’ve been a PFR for decades. I also need to add that the Registries radicalized me decades ago to the point that I no longer take accountability or responsibility for any bad SEX thing that I did in that past. I have no concern or empathy for it any longer. That ended decades ago. I fully paid the price for it. I won’t be accepting any labels for myself.
I have noticed your posts on multiple platforms Will. You speak well.
I’m struggling with anger over the disdain of retroactive policies. I was removed after 10 years in one state in 2007. Moved to Florida after a total rebuild career wise. Wife and family. Bought a house. You know the American dream. Work hard, pay your taxes, watch football. I had forgotten the label. Moved on. Then bam FDLE said retroactive application applies to you. I’m sorry to rant but I’m devastated. Makes no sense these legislators.
What I meant to say is the RSO policy has it both ways. Once removed should be the end nationally. But that’s not how it is. No logic applied. Only fear propaganda and lies about statistics and facts.
Yes, if your situation happened to me, I would be angry beyond reason. I’m certain I would act on it. Maybe in a positive way but maybe in a negative way. Hard to say unless I’m in the situation. I have some triggers.
Why don’t you move to a better state? Personally, I think Floriduh is a cesspool across the board. Just leave.
Registry A**holes/Supporters/Terrorists (RASTs) lie that the Registries are a “civil regulation” and that they are supposed to list people who might be dangerous in order to “protect the public”. If that were actually true, and given that the states are sovereign and run their Registries, then it makes complete sense that each state can decide at any time who should and should not be listed on their Registries. I think that IS the logical way.
Therefore, why should Floriduh (or any other state), care what State X thinks about a person? Floriduh should make their own decision. It’s their Registry.
I’ll go further and say that I don’t think it should/would be an issue if a state allows one of their residents to be removed from their Registry but then later decides that the person should be listed on the Registry and puts the person back on.
I mean, if “we” (government and RASTs) think that Registries are acceptable at all, and civil, I think they should work that way.
Again, I would be insanely angry if I were removed from the Registries and then added back on. Obviously that causes real problems. But I don’t get why people are “extra” concerned about that versus simply why Registries exist at all. If we allow Registries to exist then I think every Amerikan should accept that it can be decided that you should be listed. If you aren’t listed on a SEX Registry then other Registries should exist that we can list people on. If SEX Registries exist, there should be a lot more Registries. And there would be if it were all not just idiotic social policy and built on lies.
Having said all that, I do not think there are ANY informed, intelligent, moral people who think Registries should exist at all.
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Will
The reasons I personally do not move out of Florida are:
#1 Leaving Florida does not take you off the registry.
#2 Leaving Florida does not take away your responsibility to register in Florida (However many times you register per year. For me it is 4 times)
#3 My family is here and do have some family around the U.S in other states but I have been in Florida since 1979 and I like it, other than the obvious reasons to not like it.
#4 I would most likely have to then register in two different states and the cost to return to Florida each time (Gas and time wasted) is not worth it. And I would spend my entire year registering in each state.
#5 I have always been a warrior, a fighter and a champion for justice. Having said that, I was to stay and see us get our rights back, at the very least, the rights to be removed from the horrible and dangerous registry that has caused some to even be murdered.
@Cherokee, If you leave Florida and will have no temp residence here in Florida, after letting your sheriff know of your intent, and filling out the paperwork (make sure you keep a copy), you do NOT have to ever register in Florida again, unless you come back. I guess you know that, but you’re probably talking about keeping some kind of residence here. I just wanted to make that clear to other readers. Sorry this message is not aligned with your last response to Will. The webpage is not allowing it.
Well anything is better than sex offender. That was my point. I, and many of us are still being called sex offenders but I have not offended since 1991 so why am I still being called a sex offender?
Do ex-murders from 40 years ago still get called murderers?
Do ex drug addicts still get called drugies?
Are people who use to smoke still considered smokers?
Maybe we shouldn’t be labeled at all. I was just making the point that me and many of us are tired of still being labeled sex offenders / predators if we have not offended in decades. Some on the news when making comments about us use sayings like “Once a sex offender, always a sex offender”.
Got it and I agree.
Calling a Registered Person a “sex offender” is so inaccurate that it is lying. It is also hateful and malicious. Truly, only uninformed, dumb, and/or immoral people do that. But I will say that is a large percentage of the Amerikan population. I think most people will call you that today. Those people are defective. And if they call you names, they are requesting to be called names themselves and they deserve it.
I was just trying to point out that “ex offender” is not much better than “sex offender”.
“Person Forced to Register” is good. It’s accurate. That is all people listed on Registries are – they are people who are being forced to Register – by immoral, illegitimate, nanny, out-of-control, GIANT Amerikan governments, at the point of guns.
No one who believes in limited government thinks Registries should exist. There are certain political parties which claim to believe in limited government. Every time they make that claim, the issue of Registries should be brought up. There is little that is more GIANT GOVERNMENT than keeping lists of people that it SUPPOSEDLY monitors and tracks. That is what fascist regimes do. So which political parties are the fascists? We need to crush them by any means possible.
I think it’s fair to say that murderers will always be called murderers, as the fact that they killed a person does not go away with time. They may not currently be murdering someone, but it’s statistically proven that people who commit violent crimes such as assault, rape, and murder are much likely than the average person to engage in tcriminal behavior again. Recovery is of course possible for some people, but it is unlikely in such a broken penitentiary system regardless.
Actually people that drive drink are most likely to have harmed more children and adults then any other criminal and there recidivism rate is through the roof. wheres the list for the drunks? ohh that’s right there isn’t any as to many politicians, lawyers and other white collar would be on that list!
I kind of hear what you are saying. But I don’t think it’s quite right.
There are convicted murderers living among us. So, if they are “murderers”, where is my big government Registry listing them? Don’t I have a right to know about a murderer living next door to my family? What if it is a child murderer? Won’t someone think of the children?
Where is the outrage about murderers living next to schools? You know plenty of them live “too close”. Or how about murderers being in schools?!! If a murderer travels to another city, shouldn’t big government be lying to all of us about how they are “monitoring” and “tracking” that?
I don’t hear people being called “murderer”. I think Amerika only cares about SEX and the SEX Registry. That is one reason we know it is nothing but lies that the SEX Registries are for “public safety” or “protecting children”. The SEX Registries exist for harassment and to make dumb people feel better.
Red
My point was, some 18 year old kid who killed someone in a 7-11 robbery 40 years ago and now a 58 year old person who changed their life, is not going to be yelled at saying “YOU MURDERER”.
But I can just step out my front door and someone occasionally calls me a name or two for something I did 34 years ago. This happens on a regular basis. It really never gets old.
We are all in this together; each one of you is a HERO to me. Anyone on the hate list that endures daily is also my hero. We have been put in an uncompromising position that requires daily strategy plans not to get arrested. Every day without suffering a hit should also make us a hero for our families. Posts made during the close of 2024 centered around the label we have been burdened to carry. It seems unanimous that the harsh wording the Legislation uses is not acceptable. If correct, it could be possible that Will Allen coined the term PFR for People Forced to Register, which originated on a different platform. The term is better than the one the Legislation uses. Nevertheless, we can improve from that term; what do you all think? Keeping the theme as in PFR, the term HERO might offer an encouraging concept across our reluctant membership. There are several options for the first two letters, but the last two are set: registration obligation. The long game would be Humans Enduring Registration Obligations and Humans Exposed to Registration Obligations. Any wording should be acceptable as long as the result is that we are heroes every day. The sources used from the Alan and CherokeeJack, News Sharing and General Commentary submissions. Alan submitted on January 10, 2025, “I don’t think it matters much how PFR “advocates” are talking to the sheriffs anyway.” with HERO, I don’t think it matters much how [HERO] “advocates” are talking to the sheriffs anyway.”CherokeeJack submitted on December 27, 2024, “Please us “Ex-offenders” unless that person is still offending.””Please us [Heros] unless that person is still offending.It might be challenging to make this Identifying change, but those and their families carrying the heavy registration obligation are still my heroes. The term PFR is appropriate, but is it possible to pivot and coin a phrase that puts it in the Legislation’s face, saying that they are wrong and we are strong?
@One way up
Thanks for your post and encouraging words. My Dad once told me, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. To that point, going to prison was easier for me than coming back into society and being harassed by people who live around me and those who travel from somewhere else to damage my property.
I pray every day and night to the Father to grant me a hedge of protection and give me the strength to make it through another day without incident.
We’re being governed by a sex predator who an ethics report confirmed paid a minor for sex. The name? Matt Gaetz!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-report-accuses-matt-gaetz-of-paying-women-for-sex-using-illegal-drugs-accepting-improper-gifts
@Just saying
It would be nice if some of the politicians, celebs and other famous people would get behind our cause that were also accused of an offense. However, instead they pay their way out of it or brush it off as non-sense and fake news. Some, like Diddy get a pass and his followers still praise him as an icon, pretending there were no incidents, or overlooking them.