Senate Bill proposes to define “day” and make other changes.

Recent amendments to Senate Bill 234 have been filed, including  the following language, presumably in response to the Ex Post Facto Plus lawsuit, which argued that the definition of “Day” was vague.

In calculating days for “permanent residence,” the first day a person abides, lodges, or resides at a place is excluded. Each day following the first day is counted. A day includes any part of a calendar day.

The proposed amendment would also allow vehicle registration to be done online.

See https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/234/Amendment/954436/PDF for the amended language and stay tuned for a more comprehensive update.

Thanks to member JZ, volunteer for our Legislative Committee, for bringing this change to our attention.


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41 thoughts on “Senate Bill proposes to define “day” and make other changes.

  • February 1, 2021

    Thank you, FAC

    So if we visit a state which doesn’t require you to register for stays under 3 days, we still have to report that address in person in Floriduh?

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    • February 1, 2021

      unfortunately

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      • February 2, 2021

        Floriduh is a criminal regime. Big news, I know.

        It is illegal that they require residents to tell them if they have traveled out of the state. It serves zero public safety purpose. The lie and supposed purpose of the Hit Lists is to notify people that are around PFRs, of their existence. That is done by telling them where you live. The “neighbors” (and criminal regime) have no need, and certainly no right, to know when the dangerous person is NOT there. No legitimate reason to know.

        I just really hope that people work extra hard these days to help ensure that the Hit Lists are completely worthless and worse. I know I am. The more the criminal regimes try to harass me, the bigger the negative consequences for them.

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        • February 2, 2021

          @Will Allen: Makes you wonder if it’s a violation of the Right to Travel/Privileges and Immunities Clause.

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          • February 3, 2021

            Doesn’t make me wonder 🙂

            But, I don’t give an F what they call it a violation of or “constitutional” or “unconstitutional”. It is unacceptable. That’s the end of it. Just like the Hit Lists themselves. I’m going to ensure the Hit Lists are not just worthless, but a lot worse. There must be chaos, destruction, and hate. Must. The Hit Lists can’t exist without consequences.

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      • February 2, 2021

        OK, we need some clarity here, how about the committee on legal issues at FAC or an attorney that is associated with FAC getting some information out.

        I support FAC for this reason to be informed and support the law suites.

        I am thankful for what is good happening in other states, but it’s FL that truly I am interested it, It is Florida Action Committee.

        This stuff that affects our ability to live and move about is important.

        Along with the best interpretation of the proposed amendment that you can give, what can we do to help?

        Thanks
        Sailtime

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        • February 2, 2021

          I will try to do a more comprehensive legal update soon.

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          • February 2, 2021

            Thanks, do appreciate all you do, it’s a lot to handle

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          • February 5, 2021

            Surely something must be able to be done regarding the travel restrictions. At least within the US.

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  • February 1, 2021

    Everyone knows that mortgage and rent payments are not as much for ex-felons as they are for ‘normal’ people, therefore, ex-felons don’t need to make so much money…tongue in cheek.

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  • February 1, 2021

    Uh, oh …. The revised statute would now require reporting “… all changes to vehicles owned”. I guess I’ll have to make sure to update the website whenever I get new tires, an oil change, a car wash, etc. I wish I felt comfortable putting an “LOL” here at the end of my comment.

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    • February 1, 2021

      RayO
      Yes now you can’t say I didn’t update because they weren’t open. Now if you change vehicles or borrow one or anything they can arrest you and you don’t have any excuses . Just more overreaching and control of your lives and making it simpler for the communist state to punish without accountability. Not good!,,,

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    • February 1, 2021

      The statute has, for several years now, required reporting any changes to all “vehicles owned,” which is a term specifically defined in the law, within 48 hours. That means adding or deleting a vehicle one has access to, not changing the tires (although changing the color would qualify). Currently, this reporting must be done in person. Allowing us to report it online would alleviate some of the burden and would also be helpful because we could see, and take screenshots of, all of our vehicles owned to ensure that the information is and stays accurate.

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      • February 2, 2021

        I guess a PFR wouldn’t want to buy a car too late on a Friday or early Saturday. 48 hours?! What kind of moron thinks 48 hours would be any significant difference from 7 days? I mean, really? How big of an idiot does a person have to be to fantasize that would matter?

        I would make the criminal regime a promise that if I ever committed a crime where a vehicle is involved, that it will never involve any vehicle that I have told them about.

        I also don’t understand why PFRs care that the criminal regime keeps this information accurate. The only thing that matters is that you have given them accurate information and have proof. After that, who cares? I think it is hilarious that they can’t manage a simple database. Big government attracts incompetent people. Those are the only people who would want to work on the Hit Lists. Normal, moral people would run from such harassing nonsense.

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        • February 2, 2021

          What kind of moron thinks 48 hours would be any significant difference from 7 days? I mean, really? How big of an idiot does a person have to be to fantasize that would matter?

          The same mindset that believes any of this will stop a person from committing a crime should that be their intention to begin with…

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  • February 1, 2021

    If they want me to keep a log on my time away from home, I’ll do that. I only charge $350 an hour for record keeping. Otherwise they can JUMA!

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  • February 1, 2021

    No matter how they reword it, it is still ridiculous. In my world a permanent resident is one in which of all my possessions are moved from one location to another with intent of residing with those possessions. I grew up in a Navy family and spent 29 years in the Navy so I think I have a pretty good handle on what a permanent residence is. I am off of probation so I live my life abiding with ‘real laws’, not this phony RSO B.S.

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    • February 1, 2021

      Captain….

      Have ‘They’ Re-Defined the Word ‘Permanent’ in the Statutory Language, OR, have they just stated the word, ‘Permanent’ in the Statute…

      The Word Permanent is an adjective in The English Language….it means, “lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely”….

      I am confused here!

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      • February 2, 2021

        The fools in Tallahassee don’t have a clue as what they are doing. They just want to make the public think that they are earning their paycheck. Don’t expect to get anything commonsensical out of them. They are too worried about tripping over their own feet.

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