Tennessee nurses push for new law to add protection from sex offenders
Nurses in Nashville are hoping to put a new bill on the books that would add another layer of protection against registered sex offenders.
The hope is to have legislators take up a bill that would require sex offenders to present their offender identification card once inside the hospital.
“You would go register at the front desk, like any other patient, the only difference is that you would hand them your sexual offender identification card, and let them know,” explained Carissa Kohne, co-writer of the bill.
“It would allow us to plan how we would do patient care, not that it would change the care itself any…” explained Ciearria. [FAC COMMENT: Yeah right!]
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I don’t understand, why does there need to be a law in Tennessee. Has there ever been an attack on a nurse by a sex offender in that state? I know of no hospital that accepts you for treatment without three things in advance, Registration with your 1. Insurance Card, 2. Driver’s License that is marked with the sex offender designation and 3. Your co pay or a plan to do so. The Hospital or Drs offices have the ability to see the marked driver’s license in advance and would know. I see this as more junk laws being tossed at sex offender. When is ever going to stop, what can they think of next. It is time to make sure we donate money to this organization to have the ability to be heard. Thank You
For anyone in the medical field, less you forget your Hippocratic oath:
Pay close attention to the one I placed a STAR next to Below
OATH:
“I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon’s knife or the chemist’s drug.
I will not be ashamed to say “I know not,” nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient’s recovery.
*I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know.
Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty.
Above all, I must not play at God.
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person’s family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter.
May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.”
I know their are some atrocious sex offenders, i’m not excusing them here, BUT lets correct a broken narrative..these crimes while VERY PUBLIC really are a small number with most of the registry being “padded and fluffed” with ridiculous crimes most states can’t even agree are even crimes. NOW if you add the crimes and harm the atrocious sex offenders have done then add and compare it to the harm and crimes the “justice system, and public themselves” have done as a righteous anger to innocent children,babies,women,spouses,family members you will quickly find who the real demons are.(spoiler alert is it isn’t the sex offenders). I would place a bet that over 100 times the atrocious crimes against innocents have been committed by the “public and justice departments” … What would you like to bet if the media actually did its job and some investigative journalism that the number of legit SEX and violence crimes perpetrated by or assisted to by the justice system and the public against the family’s of and friends of those on the sex offender brand is larger than that which was ever committed by the “sex offender” brand they have created so they could have a target for their hate? We all know they had to create something to hate and commit legal violence against after the Indians,jews,blacks,irish,Japanese, Christians,and Witches were taken away from them…. Says a lot about a society when it cant exist without someone to torment and mistreat….
Kareeeennnnnnnn!!!!!! says: “It would allow us to plan how we would do patient care, not that it would change the care itself any…” …….end of Karen’s quote…
So uhm if it “wouldn’t change they care then it really isn’t necessary..Just anouther way to be a legalized busybody and have someone new to mistreat, abuse and gossip about so low lifes can feel better about their lack of a life.. In the end this right here is exactly what every registry, every sundown law, every Jim Crow law, Every star of david patch, numbered tattoo,burn em at the stake,and in the end gas chamber and trail of tears march has always been about…. how much better of a human can we be by excusing ourselves for being worse then we abuse… In the end do you really think what the group creatively named “sex offenders” did was bad? Then you haven’t seen what society excuses itself for doing have you? Any civilization that calls others criminals while to does worse then those it points the fingers at isn’t much of a society and needs its flag and its country taken from it, and it will happen from the inside out.deservedly so.
This particular moral panic seems to be based on a single specific incident from 2020, and vague assertions of sexual harassment. There is no mention of how many such incidents were perpetrated by those who are not on the registry. Since the vast majority of patients are not registrants, they must not be the dominant cause of sexual harassment.
FAC’s sarcastic comment is right on. The level of care will inevitably suffer if not due to the prejudices that registrants routinely face, but likely due to increased costs from not allowing a nurse alone in the room. The “leper rooms” will necessarily be somehow identified and patients will no doubt get only minimal care.
This proposal is a moral panic solution in search of a problem, and only perpetuates the myths surrounding sex offenders. Ron Book must be losing his touch since the proposal is in Tennessee and not Florida.
Don’t give Book any ideas…
Going to my local hospital for an MRI, I encountered a nurse who after learning I was a SO stuck my arm no less than a dozen times trying to insert the IV. Until this time I had never encountered anyone who had a problem inserting the needle as the veins on my arm protrude due to low body fat percentage. When I told her I had enough and was leaving she called an ER nurse who stuck me three more times before she was successful inserting the needle. They must have enjoyed a perverse sense is satisfaction in their actions toward me. So if you think that some nurses will not take an opportunity to carry out their version of revenge upon you once you’re under their care, think again. Everyone should be concerned about which of a thousand different actions they could perpetrate against you. We need legislation to protect us from them not the other way around.
Meanwhile in Texas,
Former Texas teacher gets Just 60 days in jail for sexual relations with underage student
https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-texas-teacher-60-days-jail-sexual-relations-underage-student
Just sayin
I do not mean to diminish anything but female sex offenders are often not treated as badly as males. (My opinion) Every teenage boy wanted to get with an older woman, their teacher, their best friends mom or older sister, or even their baby sitter. But when men are listed as a sex offender the public thinks of creepy old guys hiding behind trees waiting to kidnap small children and drag them into the woods.
Apparently, the judge agrees with me.
Cherokee, I agree with you. That’s why there are songs and music videos such as Hot For Teacher by Van Halen (showing my age) that glorify young males having such encounters with older female teachers. Things that weren’t considered crimes in the 1980s will now get men put in prison for life but women get slaps on the wrists most of the time. There is no such thing as equal justice under the law.
It’s obvious from the news article that this teacher is a young and pretty woman. I’ve noted over the years that prettier women are treated more leniently than others. Although judges here in Michigan are now trying harder to treat all men and women equally as harshly because of public outrage. Years ago, a male teacher was discovered by police naked in the back seat of his car, with a 15 year old girl who was also naked, and another 15 year old girl in the front seat. No charges were filed. He was allowed to resign and take a new teaching job in Texas.
His father was the school superintendent, by the way. Just another example of the huge disparity in how sex based offenses are handled, depending on who you are and who you know.
She received a life sentence on the registry. Few here would agree that that is a light sentence.
I agree, but she was not sentenced to life on the registry. That is a collateral consequence of her conviction. I’m nit picking because if registration was a part of a sentence as are incarceration and fines, it would be considered punishment. That would simplify any ex post facto or bills of attainder arguments.
Registration is an integral part of the sentence. It’s just that courts have usually held that registration is simply a clerical requirement. Nothing collateral about it at all. It’s explicitly written right into the law under which you are convicted.
Jacob, I get what you’re saying. But I served 6 years in federal prison with lifetime probation and lifetime registration for a (noncontact porn offense). You seems to imply that the world should pitty her for the harsh punishment of her contact offense that includes no prison time and very little probation just because she has to register for life? Cry me a river.
I’m surprised how easy it is to get intelligent FAC members to change their tune, declare the registry to be non-punitive, and advocate for more jail time.
Just point out headlines like this, and members will look past the punitive impact of registration and validate the public’s view that six months jail plus life registration is not enough.
The news media, and its headline writers in particular, are trying to call our attention to how lightly a female teacher is being treated for a sexual offense. Do we really agree with them that this teacher is being given a slap on the wrist, or do we know better and advocate for more sensible consequences?
I think it’s fair that this individual lose her job, lose her ability to teach children ever again, and lose her ability ever to take a job that would ever place her alone with other peoples’ children. She needs to not be alone with other peoples’ children until she successfully completes treatment with a qualified therapist. She should pay restitution to the victim so that they, too, can get the counseling they need. In my personal opinion. And maybe jail time, but whenever we keep people in jail, innocents suffer.
What else do we want out of her? Do we want her family to be cut off from her for any period of time? Do we want her and her family to face public shaming until she dies? Because that’s what she’s getting, and believe me, it ain’t light.
Ed C is technically correct, and Just Sayin is understandably frustrated. But are we going to allow headlines like this, make us forget what we’re fighting for? (I certainly allowed it to take me off topic!).
I completely agree.
While I don’t like double-standards any more than the next person, there are always two ways to address a double-standard: a right way and a wrong way. Being crueler to women is the wrong way.
Also from Texas
A man just killed himself in court over sex offender sentence
https://www.aol.com/news/texas-man-convicted-child-sexual-005828380.html
Here is one of the commenters on the story after guy killed himself in court (At the bottom of the story are the comments)
LADY
15.9K Points
15 hours ago
I wish all the defendants who are found guilty, took the same actions. It would keep our prisons from being over crowded and save Billions of Tax Payers dollars.
If all who were guilty of sin were to take such action, the world would have no population. Fortunately, my faith and trust in God acknowledges my sinful nature but allows me to repent…do a 180ty…and return to a productive life. Anyone who says they have never sinned, is guilty of lying. While sin is ugly, forgiveness and restoration is beautiful. We have all done things we regret. We cannot undo those things. We can, however, receive forgiveness and move to right wrongs. That happened in my life 24 years ago and that forgiveness has restored my family and we live in each other’s love and God’s peace. Some may be anti-religious but as for me, I know that God has restored peace to me and my family.
Capt
Ironically anyone who had any connection to my case have never bothered or contacted me. They did not even show up to court to dispute anything I said. Having said that, neighbors and people who do not even live near me make it a point to make my life miserable even though they have zero connections to me in any way, shape or form.
I mean if I want to stretch it, the ones on my street may have a tiny fear but come on, people driving an hour to protest at your house is just someone screwing with you. And I agree things will be peachy in Heaven, but right now we are in the Devil’s domain, and he makes sure to bother us at every turn.
Jack, sorry to hear about your situation. When I first moved into my neighborhood back in early 2004, I had a couple of skeptics, but now I get along fine with everyone, and I love my neighborhood. God has answered my prayers. My children and their families have relocated to Brevard County, and we are living a very comfortable life. I even get along good with the SORT supervisor.
Capt
Don’t get me wrong, there are registered people who are being treated way worse than me. It is not even the registry per se. It was once Nextdoor app came out. People who have known me for 30 years suddenly saw me as a monster. I mean what changed? The fact I am not required to notify my neighbors so Nextdoor did it for me? Sound like now notifications go out regardless of if it is required.
Jack, I had to come to the decision a long time ago, if someone doesn’t like me…that’s their problem, not mine. Life is too short to worry about how narrow-minded people think. It’s just not worth the time and effort. I know that my failures have been corrected, and that is all that matters. God has given me the peace that I can experience each and every day. I wake up looking forward to each and every day. Taking on politicians that are prejudiced against registered citizens is a challenge…that is what I trained for, and also is ‘fun’.