URGENT CALL TO ACTION – STOP FLORESCENT GREEN LICENSE PLATES

139 thoughts on “URGENT CALL TO ACTION – STOP FLORESCENT GREEN LICENSE PLATES”

• tearfuleagle

  April 27, 2023

  So it looks like that is it for the day. Gives us more time to fight the Green License Plates

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  • Reformed but harassed

    April 27, 2023

    So is this usually good or bad?

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    • tearfuleagle

      April 27, 2023

      I have no Idea. I could be since Book dropped in the bomb shells after hours that some Senators are ticked or just want time to read them. Either way another sleepless night

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  • Lauren NotBook

    April 27, 2023

    Well. I guess no vote is better than an approval. I’m going to need a bunch more Tums.

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• tearfuleagle

  April 27, 2023

  Does Postponed mean not today or Later today

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  • Jl

    April 27, 2023

    I heard them say TP? For today or a later date?

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    • FL is Unconstitutional

      April 27, 2023

      TP as in toilet paper? I agree, the bill is toilet paper!

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• Robert

  April 27, 2023

  How about any damage done to our vehicles, our loved ones vehicles or friends. We send them the bill for damages and a lawsuit for emotional trauma that the bill will cause.

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• Putnam County

  April 27, 2023

  I wrote a shame-on-you message to all House Reps saying thanks for putting friends, family, and loved ones at risk. (I can post my letter if anyone’s interested in reading it.) I especially included a note saying that LB says she wants to keep kids safe, but only the kids she likes. There’s so much to say but if you send too long of a message, it’s guaranteed to not be read. I included a big “thank you” to the reps who voted against the bill. One rep, Anna Eskamani, replied, “Keep the pressure on, hopefully there is a way to get this amended in the final days of session.”

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• tearfuleagle

  April 27, 2023

  Red Lettering takes effect January of 2024. Already working on an injuction.

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  • FL is Unconstitutional

    April 27, 2023

    I see it states July 2023 as the effective date…?

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    • tearfuleagle

      April 27, 2023

      Section 19. Effective January 1, 2024, subsection (3) of
      887 section 322.141, Florida Statutes, is amended to read:
      888 322.141 Color or markings of certain licenses or
      889 identification cards.—
      890 (3) All licenses for the operation of motor vehicles or
      891 identification cards originally issued or reissued by the
      892 department to persons who are designated as sexual predators
      893 under s. 775.21 or subject to registration as sexual offenders
      894 under s. 943.0435 or s. 944.607, or who have a similar
      895 designation or are subject to a similar registration under the
      896 laws of another jurisdiction, shall have printed in the color
      897 red all information otherwise required to be printed on the
      898 front of the license or identification card, as well as the
      899 following:
      900 (a) For a person designated as a sexual predator under s.

      Unless I am missing something

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      • FL is Unconstitutional

        April 27, 2023

        Ok, so we have a little more time. Thanks tearfuleagle

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  • Pariah.001

    April 27, 2023

    Are you sure? Have both House and senate bills passed?

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    • FL is Unconstitutional

      April 27, 2023

      HB 1085 (Red letters) status is viewable here:
      https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1085/?Tab=BillHistory

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      • tearfuleagle

        April 27, 2023

        I agree with what you are saying about July 1st 2023 but that is the bill itself unless defined with in the bill a different Start date.

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• Lauren NotBook

  April 27, 2023

  I have a few, probably stupid, questions.

  Assuming for a horrible moment that red lettering bill passes the senate, I know it would go to DeSantis for approval, then take effect on…some date. Would we all have to go get our Scarlet Letters and then wait for an injunction to take effect, the courts to decide it’s unconstitutional, etc? I guess my question is, how fast could we halt it for the courts to take action? I’m not positive, but I think our internet identifiers were out there for the world to see while the courts were deciding.

  Also, regarding the license plates, it seems there’s usually a House and Senate version of each bill. What is the next step if this monstrosity passes the Senate, since I don’t believe there’s a house version.

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  • Kyle M

    April 27, 2023

    Not an attorney, but a motion for temporary injunction, if granted, would stop the enforcement of the law until the court makes a final decision on the ensuing complaint alleging the constitutional violation. The standard is high for an injunction, meaning that one has to prove irreparable harm, a likelihood that a constitutional challenge would succeed, no remedy of law, and that the injunction would serve public interest. Additionally, a facial challenge of the law would mean that there are NO circumstances in which the “red letter” law would be constitutional; another high bar considering that the Alabama and Louisiana cases declared the “red letter” law as it applied to the circumstances of those specific petitioners/defendants; and not that it was facially unconstitutional. Although, to avoid further lawsuits, I believe that Alabama amended their “red letter” law.

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    • tearfuleagle

      April 27, 2023

      Kyle was not the red lettering struct down? Whether is was just for those who filled suit if they are simialarily situated why would it not apply to others who may not have money to file? Just a question. Also as to the green license plate meaning you are carring the govt’s message see Woolley V Maynard USCOTUS. In LA registrants had in bright Orange letters “Sex Offender” You can also perform the severability doctrine, does removing one section of the law invalidate all of it. In this case no you simply strike Section 19 as unconstitutional and leave the bill intact.

      Secondly the question is does free speech only address the Freedom to speak or also include the right not to speak Board of Ed V Barnette 319 US 624,633-634, 63 S.CT 1178, 1182-1183 87L.Ed 1628 1943 and also Wooley V Maynard 430 US 705,714,97 S.Ct 1428, 1435, 51 L.Ed.2d(1977)

      Turn to Doe V Marshall

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      • tearfuleagle

        April 27, 2023

        In Alabama they had branded in BOLD Red Letters “Criminal Sex Offender” Look to Wooley V Maynard again. The four part test, 1. Speech, 2. To which the plantiff objects, 3 that is compelled and 4 is readliy associated with the plantiff. Cressman V Thompson 10th Circut 2015. Basically after applying the test the “Criminal Sex Offender” in Bold Red Letters was not conisdered the least restrictive method.

        Part 1: First, just as the Court in Wooley “had no trouble” finding that “Live Free or Die” was speech, neither does this court have trouble finding that “CRIMINAL SEX OFFENDER” is speech.

        Part 2: The Plantiffs all disagree with the CSO on their license
        Part 3: Plaintiffs are compelled to display the offensive message
        Part 4: the message on the branded IDs is “readily associated” with Plaintiffs.

        Alabama has not adopted the least restrictive means of achieving that interest. By using “CRIMINAL SEX OFFENDER” instead of a single letter, the State goes beyond what is necessary to achieve its asserted interest. Both the Secretary of the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency and the Director of the Alabama Department of Public Safety agree that the State could use a single letter to designate sex offenders.

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        • tearfuleagle

          April 27, 2023

          This two cases in connection with Creesman and Wooley should be suffcient enough to predict a positive outcome for the plantiff and should result in an injunction.

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