Member Submission: Victimless Police Proactive Sex Stings
Statistically Speaking
Many of you know I am a computer programmer by trade, so statistics and analytics are definitely in my wheel house. Last year, while on the Dr. Phil show I asked an ICAC task force police officer what I felt was an important question. If you are interested in saving children, if that is the reason you run police proactive stings entrapping innocent men, then why do you not search these ‘sexual predators’ homes for evidence both to corroborate your accusations AND to identify, and help past or present victims?
The police officer answered my question with ‘We do.’ Unfortunately that was the only question I was allowed to ask, and Dr. Phil just accepted the officers answer, actually all of the officers answers, without any push back. While I was aggravated, I understand the Dr. Phil show is a reality show, designed for entertainment, and is in no position to back men accused of being predators. I did expect more from this man, much as I expected more from the police, prosecutors, and judges involved in these cases, but I’ve had to learn to live with disappointment.
Part of my agenda since then is to gather data on these stings:
- There are crime reports submitted by local police across the nation for every arrest they make.
- I created an online survey posted on advocate websites across the country
- A C.A.G.E. workgroup is gathering all ICAC performance reports from inception through 2022
I am hoping to spread word of the Police Proactive Sex Sting survey while at the NARSOL conference next month. Understandably there is only a 50% completion rate of those who start filling out the questionnaire. But of the data we have collected so far, with the majority of respondents coming from Florida, here are some statistics that might intrigue you.
- 63% reported having purposely stopped the conversation at least once
- 68% report non sexual communication being interrupted by LE, and led back to a sexual nature
- 70% were on an app requiring the user to verify they are over 18
- 17% of those arrested never left their house
- 30% of the arrested ‘predators’ had their houses searched
- 91% had their names broadcasted by the media upon arrest
- 23% had their employers name broadcasted by the media
We have also received a few states ICAC reporting to date. These are the numbers used by the DOJ for funding purposes. ICAC funding is calculated off of a number of different data points, but arrests and prosecutions are among them.
An interesting statistic we found recently in WA state was that in 2015, at the start of Washington’s Net Nanny proactive sting campaign, 1 out of 4 arrests were proactive. By 2017, 2 out of 3 were from proactive stings versus reactive stings. It did not take WA state long to understand the perverse incentives available through proactive stings!
But there is a possibly even more perverse outcome that I have uncovered. Remember me saying crime reports for every incident are collected across the nation? These go into a database called UCR (Unified Crime Reporting), and it’s updated counterpart NIBRS (National Incident-Based Reporting System), operated by the FBI. I wanted to search NIBRS for the number of sexual offenses involving no actual victim. My theory being that these numbers could be used against the ICAC reports to get a pretty good idea of what’s really happening versus any twisted, inflated reporting.
Every offense reported for things such as ‘attempted rape of a child’, ‘communicating with a child for immoral purposes’ or any number of state specific crimes, that have no victim, are all listed WITH A VICTIM!
How is that even possible? Well the support people at the FBI informed me that proactive sting incidents are to be reported as if the victim WAS the person the officer was impersonating. They even told me that is a common question among training officers. I was floored. So says I, have there been requests to add in an answer to such crimes as ‘no victim’? I know that questions, and responses, have been added and adjusted every year. Knowing proactive stings have been around for at least two decades…surely there is a request in to be able to record exactly what happened, right? NOPE. They have no plans to alter their data collection to include victimless sexual offenses. Oversight? I think not.
At first this floored me for the obvious reason that we cannot verify ICACs numbers submitted for federal and state funding. And that bothered me as there are already so few checks and balances involved in ICAC operations. But then it also dawned on me that we, as a nation, can also no longer accurately site statistics on minors going online looking for sex with adults, or parents offering their children for money or their own satisfaction.
So when ICAC goes in front of legislators looking for additional funding, armed with statistics about the number of youth being sought out online, by adults, for sex….where are they getting these numbers from exactly?
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I got caught in one of these stings and I have to say it opened my eyes to ugliness of the justice system. I never supported the registry and other restrictions placed on people who have done their time. Just because someone thinks they have to know doesn’t mean they should. Way not throw out everyone’s baggage because it’s not the government’s job to keep you safe, it’s yours.
I’ll have ask my sister in law if there’s any updated research on sexual offenses. Being a Criminologist/Sociologist/Researcher/ and Professor I’m sure she can point me in the right direction.
Yes the fact that it doesn’t matter that it was an undercover agent is written into the statute.
The charge is called “Computer Pornography” which I’ve sense realized is totally on purpose. Always fair when the title of the crime under which i was convicted is actually worse than the crime itself.
Further my situation only became a crime due to a specific feature to AOL online chat system. I was in a room called WPBM4M (that’s men for men, btw). AOL of course doesn’t even exit today. When I was first arrested I truly felt that it would soon be realized this is all a big misunderstanding. WRONG! I was a pedophilic monster lurky the internet for kids and that was the end of it!!
22 years and it still feels like the Twilight Zone…..
rpsabq
Your story contains one flaw. AOL not only exists, I am using it right now. I have been an AOL member since 1985. Maybe you meant AOL chat or rooms don’t exist anymore. My Mom and Dad still have AOL accounts as well.
Verizon bought out AOL but kept the name. I log into my AOL every day and have it registered with the Gestapo as required by the registry.
Very helpful information! All we can assert from the “missing” data is that the number of victims and people seeking victims is less than that reported by ICAC. Although we can never discern whether it is 10% or 90% less. That is a fact I can use to diminish LE credibility when I write my legislature. Not including a simple one-bit flag in the computer data to indicate a sting is nothing less than willful blindness, or willful deceit. I wonder if it is possible to resurrect that information from ICAC archives. Is a FOIA request possible?
The emphasis on human trafficking is the current political bandwagon, which I fully support if the data are real. Do we actually know the extent of this problem, or is there manipulation of these data as well?
Veritas (if that is possible).
Do not worry about Doctor Phil. I remember a few years ago, after watching one of his show, I noticed he was blinking nervously a lot. I told my wife I am going to cure this madman. I sent an e-mail to him making him aware of his eye twitch, and told him he was not fit to talk about the issue at hand that particular day. Next day he stop twitching his eyes. I told my wife I am a better psychologist than he is.
Mentioned in this submission is “The Dr. Phil Show”. I stopped watching him when he argued with a guest saying “its just Dr. Phil, this isn’t a show.” Yet, the credits call it appropriately The Dr. Phil Show. Put simply, the guy is full of bs! He is one of the biggest promoters of himself and his family. They’ve gotten rich off the misery of others.
Dr. phil is as useless as John Walsh, Nancy Grace, and Oprah are when it comes to solving crime. A bunch of hot air and that’s all.
To anyone interested in digging further for data: this is a volunteer opportunity. Reach out to this Member for leads, sources, and tips.
Thank you, C.A.G.E.!