“Get Fixed or Get the Hell Out”: A Sheriff’s Words and the Families Left Behind
“Get Fixed or Get the Hell Out”: A Sheriff’s Words and the Families Left Behind
One person’s alleged crime does not define every person on the registry—or the families who cannot simply leave.
Opinion and analysis
Every person on the registry has a different story. People have different histories, risks and paths forward. Some are caring for elderly parents. Others are older themselves and need help. One person’s alleged crime cannot tell us who all those people are.
That is why Sheriff Rick Staly’s words deserve a careful look. We can support victims, protect children and demand accountability without treating an entire group as beyond hope.
What the sheriff said then and now
The Tampa Free Press reported new charges against Joseph Nichols on October 28. Authorities allege that his phone contained child sexual abuse material and images of animal sexual activity. These are serious allegations. Charges are not convictions, and the case must be judged on its evidence.
The article also quotes Staly saying that “sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated.” He attributes that belief to his mother, whom he describes as a mental health supervisor. He also tells people he calls perverts to “get fixed or get the hell out of Flagler County.”
Those words did not begin with this article. In the full August 28 Operation Offenders: Endgame press conference, the sheriff invokes his mother’s view at about 38:26 and then draws on his own career experience.
Readers should hear the full context. In August, the warnings to comply or leave were framed around people not following registration rules. At about 41:04, a reporter raises an important distinction between past crimes and the registration charges being announced. That distinction belongs in this discussion, too.
The August operation focused on registration compliance. Its published charge list included failures to report vehicles, internet identifiers and other information. Such charges do not, by themselves, establish a new act of sexual abuse. The October allegations against Nichols do not establish what anyone else has done.
Sheriff’s remarks in context: Continuous excerpt from 37:34 to 39:31 of the August 28 Operation Offenders: Endgame press conference (1:57), retaining the surrounding remarks. The complete Flagler County Sheriff’s Office press conference is 43:52. Watch the full press conference on YouTube.
The Florida Action Committee also examined Operation Offenders: Endgame in its September 5 video, On the Heels of a Lawsuit. That analysis discusses the reporting charges and questions about the operation’s timing. Timing alone does not establish retaliation.
A family belief is not a research finding
We do not need to attack someone’s family to question a claim. A parent’s work experience and a sheriff’s personal experience are not enough to prove that nobody in a broad group can change.
The U.S. Justice Department’s archived review of treatment research gives a more careful answer. It finds evidence that some approaches can reduce sexual reoffending, while noting limits in the research and differences in results. Treatment does not work the same way for everyone.
That does not promise that every person will change. It does challenge the claim that nobody can. Public safety should be guided by evidence about individuals, not a blanket judgment.
What about the families who cannot leave
Think about someone who takes an aging parent to medical appointments, prepares meals or helps that parent stay at home. What would leaving mean for both of them?
Think about an older registered person who depends on a nearby relative, a familiar doctor or housing they can afford. Moving is not a simple choice when care, money or health makes it difficult.
These are questions about families, not excuses for unlawful conduct. A spouse, parent or child should not be treated as disposable because someone they love is on a registry. People who follow the law should not have to wonder whether a public official’s broad words include them.
The danger of treating people as targets or labels as “perverts”
The Florida Action Committee has reported on the Palm Bay Compound case. In a May announcement, prosecutors said Lucas S. Jones, then 19, was indicted for first-degree murder in the death of Colie Lee Daniel, 28. They allege Jones selected Daniel through the registry. An indictment is an accusation, not a conviction.
News coverage has compared that case to the television series Dexter. That label must not turn a real death into entertainment or make an accused killer sound like a hero. Daniel was a person, and his family lost someone.
Some visible comments under this report praise or excuse the killing. This should never take away from the crimes that occurred. A mother and family left without their son. To me this and Tennessee case are the worse examples.
There is no evidence presented here that Staly’s words caused that killing. It happened before the August and October remarks discussed here. Our concern is the broader risk of language that makes a whole group seem less human or less worthy of protection. This language is being in Florida and accross the States too.
We can condemn abuse and reject vigilante violence at the same time. We can enforce the law and recognize that people have different lives. Judge each person by their own actions. Do not use one case to condemn everyone who shares a label.
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Hmmm, so one person who was a licensed therapist, can use what little evidence she has to condemn every person with a similar criminal past. I bet she is turning over in her grave. I am amazed at what these people will say to push their agenda. Well, he has the badge, so it must be true, but wait, several thousand other therapists disagree. I bet he would never consider that information; it was his mom that told him, correct?
The article also quotes Staly saying that “sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated.”
Regurgitating the same ol mythical nonsense lol. And his mother must have not been very good in her profession because 1., she’s working in a jail and everyone on this site knows how “professional” correction staff are (sarcasm) and 2., saying all sex offenders have mental problems is false. Yes, some may have mental instabilities, but that’s not true for all. That’s like saying all bank robbers are cleptomaniacs.
That’s the common saying of all AG’s, Sheriff’s, and FDLE “sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated.” How many times have we seen that. I don’t know, maybe some can’t but 97% of us have been as we’ve not reoffended. My offense was going on an escort website and sent me a minor without my knowledge until I was arrested a few weeks later. It was so dumb that one of the people who testified on my behalf was the probation officer who wrote my presentencing memo.
As a convicted felon, I do NOT, repeat NOT excuse the actions I did nor anyone else. On the other hand, I spent a decade in the Florida Department of Corrections as well as over a decade on supervised probation. I have talked to a LOT of people with similar or even worse charges. Here is my personal observation and opinion. And again, am NOT excusing ANY behavior or actions.
Many, well over half I would estimate, in my experience went through a set of circumstances that will almost never happen again. They made a wrong choice. A horrible choice, that impacted a victim or victims, the victim’s family, their own families, and beyond.
Given a choice, that set of circumstances will never occur again and the choices made would almost certainly be different. No re-offending with another charge.
As I said, this is my own personal opinion, based upon my discussions with many sex offenders. Of which I am one.
And, going further with my opinion, regardless of what society thinks of me, I strive to live my life as best as I can with absolutely no hints of wrongdoing. No sex offenses, of course, but trying not to get as much as a speeding ticket. Everyone is watching me, even if I don’t see them and I will be DAMNED if I give them the satisfaction of slipping. That let’s them win and I am stubborn enough to work at not doing it.
I’ve changed, so that completely nullifies his statement.