Apple’s move against child pornography is shifting battle lines for law enforcement and technologists

From the Washington Post: Apple’s latest move to fight the digital sharing of child pornography is opening up some fissures in a seven-year standoff between technologists and law enforcement over fighting the spread of criminal activity online.

That fight has centered primarily on FBI and Justice Department demands for special police access to encrypted communications that would otherwise be shielded from everyone, including the platform where the conversation is happening.

Justice Department and FBI officials say that access — with a warrant — is vital to stop terrorists, purveyors of child pornography and other criminals from “going dark” and acting with impunity online. Technologists nearly uniformly say creating such an encryption backdoor will make everyone more hackable and that the trade-offs aren’t worth it. The fight’s flared periodically since 2014 with no significant give or take from either side.

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18 thoughts on “Apple’s move against child pornography is shifting battle lines for law enforcement and technologists

  • August 11, 2021

    All,

    Let’s not overlook the likelihood that LE will send CP to a target’s phone so they can pop people for having it. Much easier than than having to physically plant it on the person or in his house during a search or “compliance check.”

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  • August 11, 2021

    I have trolled some of theedia groups and even had disagreements with people regarding this. Some of the typical responses are still well I got nothing to hide or as long as they are going after them. Many people who I spoke to fail to understand the gravity of this situation.

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    • August 11, 2021

      They might have nothing to hide; however this program won’t protect them if a photo gets a hit. Programs like this are a slippery slope and could cost a person their privacy and freedom.

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      • August 11, 2021

        I’ve read little about this but I surmise that Apple will be scanning all of your photos which are stored (or backed up) to the cloud. Will it also scan photos that you only take with your phone and do not send to the cloud? Doesn’t really matter. It certainly could do that. And might at any time.

        But anyway, so you and your wife take some interesting photos of yourselves doing whatever. Or perhaps you just take one to send to your wife. How is Apple’s algorithm going to work? Is it only looking to match a specific set of photos, like say perhaps a set of 10,000,000 photos? If that is the case, probably no one will ever see your photo of your junk. But even that depends on if they are trying to match the photos exactly or if they are also watching out for people modifying such photos enough to throw their software off.

        If instead, Apple is looking for any photo which might be child porn, then your photo could easily enough get flagged and then I assume it would be sent off to a human somewhere to look at the photo to determine if it is actually illegal or not. And since we know that any person who has a naked photo of themselves viewed non-consensually is harmed by every view, congratulations, you are now a victim of a heinous sex crime.

        I don’t personally care if people see me naked, but I’m not going to be using a phone that scans my photos for the nefarious purposes of big government.

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        • August 11, 2021

          I’d bet Apple and Google already scan everyone’s photos and messages in order to target advertising, and this thing about looking for child porn is just a means of getting people to stop complaining about privacy.

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  • August 11, 2021

    High tech is compromised, period. Those who distrust our government already know this and if there came a time for open revolt a-symetrical resistance would be the tactic. Use your Iphones and your ipads at your own risk and please at the very least follow some online security measures that will prevent most if not all (excepting government three letter agencies) from gaining access to your system and/or communications.

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  • August 10, 2021

    A child sends a nude photo to a CP producer masquerading as another child. Said CP producer gets arrested and the new material gets hashed. Original child gets flagged as CP producer and spends the rest of his or her life publicly shamed and horrendously punished.

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  • August 10, 2021

    While I am firmly against ANY exploitation of children, and have even as alerted parents to possible predators grooming their children to get access, these kinds of laws are always open to being abused by authorities. The so called warrants are only shown to suspects AFTER they have been arrested and charged. Judges never refuse to grant the warrants. AND, most of all, police will use the technology to thoroughly spy on everyone until they find even the smallest hint of evidence justifying seeking a warrant. I personally don’t put anything out over the internet that would be embarrassing, but I also am always on alert to the possibility that someone could send that kind of trash to me without my prior knowledge.

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    • August 10, 2021

      Gerald….in Flori-DUH, for example, it is called Strict Liability….So you ARE fcked either way!

      Make it a Great Day!

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  • August 10, 2021

    So it wouldn’t be that difficult for someone to insert known hashes that falsely represent CP and trafficked persons in a manner of swatting someone.

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