UPDATE 3- Senate Bill 234-Video of Rules Committee Meeting
Watch video of Senate Rules Committee meeting in which SB 234 was on the agenda, and despite numerous objections, the bill passed the Rules Committee. You can watch the video here, starting at 1:19.
https://www.flsenate.gov/media/videoplayer?EventID=1_3wpkrnbb-202103040900&Redirect=true
THANK YOU FOR SENDING YOUR APPEARANCE CARD – WITH UNITY COMES CHANGE,
We have a member representing FAC today in opposition of the SB 234, as is, and will strongly suggest an accurate definition of “a day”. Approximately 200 appearance cards will also be delivered to the meeting in opposition of SB 234, as is.
Senate Bill 234 will be heard by the Senate Rules Committee this Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 9:00-11:00 A.M.
This bill will redefine the meaning of “day” to include “part of any calendar day”. FAC has submitted a letter in opposition to the Bill which you can read here: Letter to Rules RE SB234. Additionally, we plan to have a member speak before the meeting.
We are calling on all members to contact the members of the Senate Rules Committee by calling and emailing them via the information below, and asking them to OPPOSE SB 234. Please remember to be polite and professional. Remember, they (absent Senator Book) were not the one introducing this bill, they are considering it, so be mindful of that when communicating with them.
You can also fill out an appearance card and waive speaking against the bill.
- Open this Sample SB 234 Committee Appearance Form: https://floridaactioncommittee.org/sample-sb234-committee-appearance-form/
- Enter your name, job title, address, email and phone
- Save (Download with your changes) the completed form with your name in the filename: example AnnaK.pdf
- Email completed form to: [email protected]
The blank appearance card can be printed from here: https://www.flsenate.gov/UserContent/Committees/CommitteeAppearanceForm.pdf. Please make sure you have the date of the meeting (March 4, 2021), the Bill Number (SB 234), all your contact information, that you waive speaking AGAINST the bill. If using the blank form, scan and email a copy to [email protected].
We must receive your form by 5:00 pm Wednesday March 3 so that we can present it in Tallahassee on March 4, 2021.
| CHAIR: Senator Kathleen Passidomo (R) | (850) 487-5028 | [email protected] |
| VICE CHAIR: Senator Ileana Garcia (R) | (850) 487-5037 | [email protected] |
| Senator Ben Albritton (R) | (850) 487-5026 | [email protected] |
| Senator Dennis Baxley (R) | (850) 487-5012 | [email protected] |
| Senator Aaron Bean (R) | (850) 487-5004 | [email protected] |
| Senator Lauren Book (D) | (850) 487-5032 | [email protected] |
| Senator Randolph Bracy (D) | (850) 487-5011 | [email protected] |
| Senator Jeff Brandes (R) | (850) 487-5024 | [email protected] |
| Senator Manny Diaz, Jr. (R) | (850) 487-5036 | [email protected] |
| Senator Gary M. Farmer, Jr. (D) | (850) 487-5034 | [email protected] |
| Senator Audrey Gibson (D) | (850) 487-5006 | [email protected] |
| Senator Joe Gruters (R) | (850) 487-5023 | [email protected] |
| Senator Travis Hutson (R) | (850) 487-5007 | [email protected] |
| Senator Debbie Mayfield (R) | (850) 487-5017 | [email protected] |
| Senator Bobby Powell (D) | (850) 487-5030 | [email protected] |
| Senator Kelli Stargel (R) | (850) 487-5022 | [email protected] |
| Senator Perry E. Thurston, Jr. (D) | (850) 487-5033 | [email protected] |
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The Q. about mobilization is a good one.
But what’s interesting is that in this case, we actually DID mobilize.
And what we got from that mobilization was a better case for injunction.
Outside of Florida (or outside the Deep South), the sort of mobilization we mustered here, might have stopped a bill from even getting out of committee.
It would be better, of course, for us to take a more proactive role, playing offense the way California registered families have done. Consider, for example, the Sacramento-based Lobbying Days that Janice Belucci described last week. But that will require a little more time spent in Tallahassee. Either Tally-area families will have to take on an outsized role, or more families will need to be willing to take trips there, or we pay an on-site lobbyist. And we ALL have a role to play in our respective counties.
I will also point out that the mobilization that we DID muster last week, would not have happened at all without the hard work of our volunteers, particularly those on our Legislative and Membership Committees plus one individual who drove for hours in order to get to speak for two minutes.
If I didn’t think it would get us all sent to prison, I would say if every registered citizen in Florida arrived at the same time. Meet at the Florida capitol building and surround it, camp out and refuse to leave until our numerous concerns are addressed.
Other groups protest and burn down cities and get their way. We get nothing every single time but more and more restrictive laws applied retroactively. And all of us (including me) accept, put up with and live with it. BUT, it is not just us who endure these horrors. Our families, children, spouses even our friends suffer.
I get tired of reading stories of registrants committing suicide. I would rather be shot down by the National Guard than let them force me into taking my own life. We did our time and completed our sentences, and yet they will not allow us to be productive citizens. Then when we fail, they act like it is our fault.
Thanks Jacob
Your post always seem to have a mark of wisdom in them.
I know the team at FAC is not setting idly by, but are looking at every avenue to turn these laws around.
Threats to these people making these laws does nothing but solidify their thinking, we are all a basketful of deplorables.
The following is a post I placed on some other threads, I think it needs to be considered.*
Good day!
It a conversation I had with FAC that a lot of folks who post are not members, and that’s alright.
But FAC gets a lot of advice, about what FAC should do. And some of it is good some not so good. FAC wants to do more but it often comes now to what I call the PEST.
People, not enough willing.
Economy, not enough funding.
Space, like offices, goes back to E
Time, goes back to P.
If every poster were a member and gave a little bit of the above there would be no PEST!
A few carriers the load, and grows weary. But more carriers a little bit and all accomplish more.
Just thinking
Sailtime
I have a simple question to FAC and it’s members, I understand that a lot of complications arises when mobilization is considered but my question is, where is the registered citizen mobilization, as many RC in this state we still don’t make enough of a WOW impact on any of these foolish lawmakers, numbers is what make changes, there family should go and speak up, there adult kids should go and speak up. All this courage everyone has but no mobilization, with numbers we can make change, history shows us threat here in the USA and other countries numbers force people to change…it’s a thought. But only my personal thought.
The video link doesn’t work and I can’t find the video on the FL Leg website’s video section.
Perhaps they don’t want us all to see just how vile and cruel these legislators are to us?
Time Stamp ~ 10:21:00 – 10:45:00
https://flsenate.gov/media/videoplayer?EventID=1_3wpkrnbb-202103021600&Redirect=true
This isn’t the one for the Rules Committee, though.
Yeah, there’s not one on their website. The audio is here though:
https://flsenate.gov/Committees/Show/RC/Audio/5086/9105_Audio_5086.mp3
Yes…how convenient that the video stopped working soon after the facts were made public that our representative was rudely interrupted.
These people have no principles, and perhaps it is time we started to fight fire with fire! They twist the truth and tweak the rules. They disrespect us!
I’m sick to GD death of being a second class citizen!
It’s getting worse in Arizona too. Someone convicted of producing or distributing pornography of a child 12 years of age or younger would serve life without parole, as well as someone convicted of sex trafficking. So, post a picture of your baby in the bath on social media and you’re done…life in prison.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.azfamily.com/news/politics/arizona_politics/bill-imposing-strict-punishments-for-child-sex-offenders-passes-arizona-house/article_c3fde39c-7bdc-11eb-90e4-f3b9be3028df.amp.html
This is for a repeat offense.
It’s still life in prison from laws thst are getting worse and worse.
SB 234c2 continues to jet through the legislative process:
3/5/2021 Senate – Placed on Calendar, on 2nd reading
Let’s break down the “new” calculation of days:
In calculating days for “permanent residence,” the first day a person abides, lodges, or resides at a place is excluded. Each day following the first day is counted. A day includes any part of a calendar day.
The only “state” definition of “calendar day” I could find in Floriduh statutes is 112.061(5)(a) “The travel day for Class A travel shall be a calendar day (midnight to midnight)”.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0112/Sections/0112.061.html
So if you check into a motel/hotel on a Friday afternoon, Friday doesn’t count. Midnight Friday however, begins the “calendar” day of Saturday. So midnight Friday to midnight Saturday is the first calendar day. Midnight Saturday to midnight Sunday is the second day. Since a day includes “any part of a calendar day,” any stay past midnight puts you into the third day, which is a violation. Therefore, you must check out of the establishment no later than 11:59 P.M. Sunday. Who does that?
Current wording allows for a check out anytime on Monday since Friday and Monday are not full days, as per FDLE. In essence, we are screwed out of a day.
The calculation for temporary residence is the same, but the definition includes “personal travel destinations in or out of this state,” which is preposterous in itself.
In calculating days for “transient residence,” the first day a person lives, remains, or is located in a county is excluded. Each day following the first day is counted. A day includes any part of a calendar day.
The big difference here is that county is used instead of place. Also, the term transient includes, but is not limited to, a place where the person sleeps or seeks shelter and a location that has no specific street address.
Although “but not limited to” is vague and over broad, the average person, including me, does not read it to include shopping or errand locations since they all have specific street addresses, and you are not seeking them as a place to sleep or seek shelter.
JZ
Sooooooooooo, we do not have to worry UNTIL some uneducated cop arrests us because he sees the law differently and it is up to US to fight it. AND we all know even if you win we lose in 2 factors.
#1 you have spent your life savings (As if most of us have any savings) fighting the charges
#2 Even if you win, according to some on here, it still counts as an arrest on your chances of ever getting off the registry.
Refer that cop or sheriff to the case law as provided by FDLE in their motion to dismiss our ex post facto lawsuit:
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
Case No. 1:18-CV-24145-KMW
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Does-v.-Swearingen-Mot-to-Dismiss.pdf
“The general rule is that when the word ‘day’ is used it means calendar day which includes the entire day from midnight to midnight.”
State v. Sheets, 338 N.W. 2d 886, 887 (Iowa 1983).
See also Burgo v. Gen. Dynamics Corp., 122 F.3d 140, 143 (2d Cir. 1997)
(“A day is the period of time during which the earth makes on revolution on its axis, the average length of this interval being 24 hours.”)
(citing Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary 294 (10 th ed. 1997)); S. Tr. Ins. Co. v. First Fed. Sav. & Loan Ass’n of Summerville, 310 S.E. 2d 712, 713 (Ga. Ct. App. 1983)
(when not qualified, the word “day” means calendar day “consisting of 24 hours from midnight to midnight”).
A day is an indivisible unit; the law does not recognize fractions of a day.
Lapeyre v. United States, 84 U.S. 191, 198 (1872);
Maxwell v. Jacksonville Loan & Imp. Co., 34 So. 255, 264 (Fla. 1903).
Anonymous:
I agree. Put an ankle monitor on Ron and all of the other drunk drivers so we can avoid the roads they are travelling on.
THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW !!!
Detroit
Now, Now, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. AFTERALL, that would be punishment……………………………….. Wouldn’t it ? ? ? ?