FDLE’s Official Registration Update Notification
Yesterday, FDLE sent the OFFICIAL registration update notification, which you can see at the end of this post.
Although we have been requesting this information for weeks, FDLE chose to provide it on the very day the laws became effective, leaving our members already non-compliant with some requirements and only 48 hours to scramble to resolve the others.
Apparently, this notification will be sent to registrants via email and postal mail after that 48 hours have lapsed, so that those who did not know in advance will be ensured to be out of compliance by the time they learn of these requirements.
If you had to register an email that is part of a corporate distribution list (ie: [email protected]), be prepared for the humiliation of others getting a copy of this notification intended for you.
Note that on the FDLE’s notice they provide the phone number to several popular Counties’ registration offices. I tried calling the first one, Broward County, to ask some questions about these vague requirements. The FDLE provided the wrong number. FYI – Broward’s SPOT unit can be reached by calling 954-831-6305.
If anyone has questions about the notice, PLEASE insert them in comments below and we will consolidate them and request a response from FDLE.
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I have not received this notification from FDLE, JSO, or anyone else. Had I not checked this website, I would have walked in to register totally ignorant of the new requirements.
Am I the only one who sees a problem with “Internet Identifiers”? I have been using websites for over 15 years. How am I supposed to register an identifier before I use it? What about the ones I currently use or previously used? Can anyone remember all their identifiers? Almost every website anyone visits makes you set up a username, i.e. identifier. Am I suppose to divulge my identifier for my bank, insurance policies, every identifier assigned to me when I have commented on a blog or post? This is an insane requirement.
This is a topic we discussed on our last member call and the sad conclusion was that WE just don’t know AND FDLE or the local SPOT units don’t know.
FDLE advised me the litmus test was whether the online service could be used to communicate. Originally they asked “why would you register your bank?” but then when I gave the example of them communicating account information to me, they said it would need to be registered.
Even FPL (Florida Power and Light) sends notices that a bill is becoming due, so technically… If you do online bill pay, you may want to go back to paper billing and checks.
A bigger problem is online support (live chat). That’s pretty much precluded… Like people are going to go register their name, ask a question, then unregister their name…
I don’t know what FDLE intends to do with our financial accounts or what they expect we’ll do with our financial accounts. Do they expect registrants to solicit minors with their electric bill account?
The reality with all this is that the law, while well intended, makes no sense whatsoever! Too many of those who are acting in good faith and with intentions to do the right thing will get caught up in the technicalities or an accidental oversight and wind up with additional felonies and those who actually intend to go out and solicit a child are not going to register their account anyhow. It’s like asking someone to put on a name tag before they rob a bank!
It’s just sad!
This is totally bullshit….roommate,family and friends i need to register there cars. what law are the breaking??? This totally unconstitutional. (RIGHT)…
Information regarding the required update for registrants:: There have been questions regarding if the vehicle I.D’s of those visiting or residing at the registrants dwelling will be posted along with the registrants info on the state registry. I ask a Manatee county detective that question today and was informed that all vehicle info of those residing at a registrants dwelling WILL NOT be posted on the Florida registry. Only law enforcement will have access to it. Also, have heard concerns/questions..say if a registrant rents a car on a Friday and returns it Sunday does it have to be registered,do you have to contact your local sheriff on Monday and report it? I ask the same Manatee county detective and the answer was “No”. Per this Detective only if it is rented 5 days or more it would have to be registered. I was also informed by the detective that I was not required to visit the sheriffs office..not manatee county anyway. Manatee county is not fully set up for this and I was told that manatee county would have sent info to me in Nov. that I did not need to come in (I feel its a good idea thought) They are very busy and the phones were ringing off the hook! It was mentioned to me that “Hopefully there will be a change in the law in the future”, The sheriffs office does not seem to be thrilled regarding these new requirements either.
You should ask the Manatee County detective to provide you the cite for the information he is giving you, because according to the statute and the information from FDLE, he IS WRONG.
Here is the statute: F.S. 775.21… (n) “Vehicles owned” means any motor vehicle as defined in s. 320.01, which is registered, coregistered, leased, titled, or rented by a sexual predator or sexual offender; a rented vehicle that a sexual predator or sexual offender is authorized to drive; or a vehicle for which a sexual predator or sexual offender is insured as a driver. The term also includes any motor vehicle as defined in s. 320.01, which is registered, coregistered, leased, titled, or rented by a person or persons residing at a sexual predator’s or sexual offender’s permanent residence for 5 or more consecutive days.
So even if you rent a car for one day and return it the next, never to be seen again, you need to register it according to Florida Statutes. Period. If you get advised otherwise, get it in writing otherwise good luck finding a judge who believes you!
Also, you are correct; FDLE’s system is NOT updated to distinguish cars registered to registrants vs. cars registered to others. Apparently the system will be updated in a month or so. If you register your family/friend/roommate’s car today it WILL appear publicly on your registration, along with the vehicle description and tag number.
The FDLE’s system is also NOT updated to accept “internet identifiers”. The only options are email address and IM. I have updated the username and to where it applies under IM “Other”, even though the current format is inapplicable to the requirements.
I have also gotten conflicting information every time I called. Don’t rely on what people tell you because most are more confused than you are. Wait to see it in writing.
The detective even said info is conflicting with Tallahassee. And regarding going to register the updates, the detective was shocked that I appeared..she said I was the only one that did,all others are calling in. She mentioned that they were going to have registrants notified to update things in November. (they are so backed up)..the car belonging to a family member has not been posted publicly on the site…but I will keep track of that.
I am in need of clarification concerning the requirement of registering ones car . If the car driven is not registered , coregistered, leased , titled or rented to the registered citizen , and they are not insured on the insurance as drived , But they are authorised to drive the car and they owner does not live with them , will they have to register the car. Also I am in the understanding there is also a recent law that has past the states a regular citizen may be charged with a crime should a registered citizen that uses it committs a new offense( is this a new sex crime), or any crime?) Could you please repost this law concerning private individuals) Thank you
Of what I read, and how an officer explained it to me, is that if the vehicle is not owned by someone that resides at your address,or a guest of 5 days or longer,the registrant is not required to list the vehicle with their local sheriffs department.So if a registrant would use a friends car,lets say to go shopping, that resides at an address other then the registrants its fine. But counties seem to differ so I would suggest asking your local sheriff. Yes,if a non registrant loans their car to a registrant and the registrant commits a new offense the car owner could be charged..I believe a misdemeanor.