Add 2018 to the list of years in which the sex offender registry became more onerous and restrictive (and punitive). Governor Rick Scott signed HB 1301/SB 1226 into law.
CS/HB 1301/SB 1226 Sexual Offenders and Predators – This bill enhances registration requirements for sexual offenders and sexual predators. It shortens the time that a registrant is required to register a residence (even temporary) from 5 days to 3 days and it imposes a 6 month mandatory minimum community control sentence with GPS monitoring for any technical registration violation.
The registry is NOTHING like it was in 2003 when the Supreme Court of the United States agreed that it was no more onerous than a price club membership application.
Our Ex Post Facto lawsuit is coming!
I don’t see how any one under the old law is required to abide by the new laws they implement, I was convicted back in 1996 which makes me under the old guide lines which i follow and so far every where I’ve moved has kept me under the old guide lines,so how is Florida making those people follow the new laws when they are supposed to be under the old laws??? I also agree that after 23 years and no re offending you should be taking of the offenders list,because after that amount of time i think you proved your self and you have never gotten another offense not even a speeding ticket in 23 yrs whats the sense in being on the list any longer?
Darrell, I’m sure most reading your comment will agree as well. Unfortunately the laws do not reflect our point of view.
Can a sexoffender live in a home with minors if his charge was statutory rape and failed to register I need help I have to get my step daughter away she is only 3 and I am scared for her 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
If he is on probation or parole then yes contact the agency’s. If not then contact the police for a protection order. You gave rights.
You’re in fear for your stepdaughter why?
You didn’t provide much in the way of information. Such as, how old was this person when the crime happened? How did it happen, how long ago was it, etc…
You are in fear, i get that. I’m also under the impression that you are new to this site and do not know the facts that show that those who have a past sexual offense are very unlikely to commit another crime of that nature again?
Sc,
Multiple Posts, no change in language. Has been offered help on who to contact.
IF this woman “wanted help” she would have called the PO first, then Law Enforcement. WHY (IF you were this woman would you continue to post and not follow ANY advice?)
I try to give EVERY POSTER on here a chance, a listen, a choice, advice. BUT, when the poster doesnt provide any “updates”, ask for help(phone numbers, location/state)
Just the same old post, over & over; I suspect TROLL
No, IF prohibited by parole/probation officer, protection order, or owner or tenant of the premises. I’m not a lawyer, though.
If their charge was statutory rape, then presumably they have not been accused of a crime against anyone nearly as young as your stepdaughter.
If they have been offense-free in the community for many years, then statistically their risk to your stepdaughter is about the same as everyone else. You need to assess who will be alone with your stepdaughter, and criminal background is not sufficient, because about 95% of crimes against children are perpetrated by someone with no criminal background.
Stepmom,
If this individual is on probation or parole, then (more than likely) the court imposed some restrictions against him being alone with minors. If he has successfully completed treatment, then it’s possible that he could be alone or live with minors. You will need to obtain a copy of the probation/parole order for specific details. If he is not under sanctions, then there is no Florida Statue preventing this man from living with children. A judge cannot issue an Injunction for Protection based on this Person’s Obligation to Register. Please keep in mind that he has rights too.
Yes a sex offender can live in the house with a child their is no law stating he can’t. That’s like asking if a sex offender can have children of their own which is also a yes. There is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
I have Visa running they already sent intent to deny I have to pose no risk on a 29 yr old charge and still they enjoy fking people now have a marriage 10 yrs now she is in Asia myself and OUR Daughter are here in US that will end the marriage and the mothers chances of ever seeing her child again so yea this SOR laws AWA was adopted by Immigration and nationallys act so if you file petition a special offense will pop up and denied and destroyed families…..ALS is my Rep
These laws are draconian, stupid and unfounded. My dad, in the 1990s, was accused and convicted of a lame case brought by his ex-wife and stepdaughter. He refused to give in to these false allegations brought by his wife and my sister simply because dad refused to buy my (sister) a new car after graduation. MY dad put more restrictions on her driving as she had some trouble in the past. Instead of acting mature, she claimed that dad sexually molested her, this was complete bullshit. My whole life, sis hated her stepfather and wanted desperately to hurt my dad and she did so by making unsubstantiated claims.
Refusing to take a plea-deal, knowing the events she claimed were not true, dad was one of those guys who saw good in everyone but believed his kids should work for our own cars and things we want. Laura didn’t like that, my half-sister is an asshole, she is dad’s stepdaughter, she never liked my father and made up a story that dad made her perform sex acts on her when she was just a kid. This supposedly happened (10 years previously) when she was 12 or 13 years old… I call bullshit and have for the last twenty years. My sister and I lived in the same room, her on one side of the room and me on the other. My dad never even came into the room without knocking. This is a case of false allegations… and yet, the lawyers at the time were afraid of the political climate here in Florida for sex-offenders. Despite NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE. Many deals were offered my dad to resolve the case. Rightfully so, he refused any deal because he didn’t do it. But, an emotionally charged jury indeed found him guilty… much to our surprise and sentenced dad to seventeen-years. He’s been out now for 20 years, finished a term of probation fifteen years ago. He’s never had any issues, PERIOD. But, when I when I tried to move my dad into my home in Miami (he’s 75) there were all these laws, he could not live within 1,000 feet of any park, bus stop, beach, school… REALLY? Know how hard this is? The voters of Florida just threw out the state’s long-held constitutional law that ex-felons be barred from voting for life. Although the new voter-passed law automatically reinstates voting rights to 99% of ex-felons, the Florida legislature ONLY bans convicted sex offenders and murderers from voting when they complete their sentences. What is the reason? The residency laws are nonsense…. if a convicted sex offender wanted to re-offend, they could simply get in their car and drive to their destination to offend. They can take a bus, uber, train… Keeping people from living in certain areas based solely on a past conviction is double-jeopardy no matter how you look at it. Forcing ex-sex-offenders to live in alleyways, under bridges and packed into a certain shithole area is unconstitutional.
Keeping sex offenders from living where they want DOES NOT PREVENT sex offenses. An offender can simply walk or drive to an area outside their living area to commit crimes. Make any sense to you? Why does the State of Florida think banning ex-sex-offenders from voting is a good idea? Robbers, kidnappers, burglars, drug traffickers, sellers, hostage takers, and even bank robbers can vote.
Think about that: the 2018 Florida Voting Rights Act was approved by more than sixty-five percent of registered voters who automatically restored the voting rights of every ex-felon except those convicted of Murder or Sex Offences. It’s stupid and petty, it’s un-American.
Everyone needs to calm down and think.
This is so well expressed.
And even if your sister were truthful and he were guilty, registry laws still would not have protected her. We now know, for example, and it is established fact, that residency laws confer no benefit of any kind, with the possible exception of protecting property values against the effect of public registries, in the name of public safety which they do not provide.
Your dad may be innocent and yes people get framed but sex offenders are for the most part, dangerous people. They need strict laws and the laws on where they can work should be strict also. Especially pedophiles.
We know a lot more than we used to regarding who is dangerous and who is not. And all the data and studies that are out there, disagree with you, Yadjia.
Statistically, less than 5% of those previously convicted of a sex offense, are likely to re-offend. And those who have been offense-free in the community for more than 15 years, have about the same proclivity as you, Yadja, no offense. And we know that about 95% of sex offenses are committed by someone with no criminal record.
You are absolutely right that those who are at risk of committing a sex crime need to be stopped, Yadja. And obviously somebody with, say, pedophilic disorder, should not be seeking employment in the schools. But if you are relying upon a sex offender registry to help you identify such people, good luck.
Do yourself a favor and do some research. Most sex offenders are not dangerous. Some are, yes, but they are few and far between. They deserve a second chance just like everyone else. Not MORE restrictions. You do know all these stupid restrictions there are now and you want added don’t just affect the SO, right? They affect the SO’s family as well. The chances an SO will reoffend are much lower than the chances of a murderer or a bank robber reoffending. If you want to know the actual percentage of the SO reoffence rate they are listed, along with many other good references on this site. Please do yourself a favor and look them up.
Hold up now not all sex offenders have molested a child. But no sex offender can take their child to school. No sex offender can take their child to the park. No sex offender can take their child to a lot of things a child likes to do. So if there are laws they should make them specified to the crime committed
Personally I believe you are dangerous for just making that comment. Please no disrespect in saying this but what , where and how did you ever derive at an answer as you stated in your reply. This is why people in this country will always be accused of racism, hatefulness, and no regard for people as human beings. I will pray for you each and everyday until you reach a sense of reality and learn the truth and not the exaggerated facts. We have emerged from the dark ages for many centuries now.
Yadja,
What is your difference in the terms;
Pedophile
sex-offender
Child molester???
Most people (above 90%) have never committed a sex crime— ever!!!
Soooo, are you “pro-active” sex offender
or “anti sex-offender”?
You say “He may be innocent BUT-BUT- BUT-BUT…
(Just like the wonderful world of IF)
NOT GONNA HAPPEN SWEETY!
IF you want to round up ALL the “future sex-offenders”, then you would need to arrest EVERY person in the world and wait til they “maybe, BUT, IF” do something wrong.
NOT to instill fear in you, but RIGHT NOW IN CONGRESS we have a Congresswoman who had an incestuous marriage (married her brother to get into the US) and NOW she is a Democratic Congresswoman)
Incest and child molestation is everywhere; even in the US CONGRESS. (and they do nothing about it)
By making and producing NEW laws and Regulations do NOTHING for the “future victims and sex-offenders”; it is just trying to close the fence AFTER the horse got out.
These guys have done there time give them a second chance .not only do stupid laws affect the released inmate it affects there families.why dont they have registration laws for murders and drug dealers
I hope someday soon the fl laws on sex offender get changed.They are so stupid.I have been told not only is there a restriction on where someone can live .They cant have christmas decorations up .no tree or flags on 4th of july.for god sakes thats going way to far.The gps after prison and they have to keep a driving log.thats dum as hell your on gps they know where your at .Polk County they say is the worst What can we do to get someone to change these laws.
Vicki,
The restrictions are different from county to county. I just went thru a “brew-ha-ha” this past Halloween about the sign the give you to put up. In Broward County, as long as you are off paper, you dont have to abide by their “false narratives”. I have Christmas decorations up right now.
The Deputy who “TOLD ME that I HAVE TO” put up that Halloween sign…… I explained (and showed her) the LAW that says I dont have to. She pursued with false threats of arrest, then refused to give me her name and badge #.
Here comes the Internal Affairs Complaint…..
Her Captain wrote me a letter apologizing for her lack of knowledge of the law. I called the Captain and told him that I just want her educated on The Law; as it is written, NOT as she perceives it. I also told him that I didnt want her to get a “RIP”(written reprimand) in her file, just her to be educated on the law and that she needs to cut out the “attitude” when dealing with citizens of the community—-and that would include sex offenders.
Cops will tell you anything to FORCE compliance, whether it is law or some made up BS to suit their narrative.
Check with an attorney first about the law.
FAC is NOT an attorney—— but they can help direct you to the right statute.
Thanks for the info .I will check that out.We are new to these laws so I am thankful for all info everyone can give me.I wish people would not be so scared to take a stand and help fight these stupid laws.If there is anything I can do or certain people i can write too please let me know .
You really are ignorant. Imagine if you have a small child & have to live in fear. Maybe see it from the victims stand point.
April,
Just imagine the sky were falling, the ice sheets were melting and there were no more “pokestops” to discover.
Just imagine that the courts WERE always truthful and prosecuted JUST the “Bad men”.
Within 5 houses to the North, South, East, and West of me, there are at least 10-15 kids. They all go out to play everyday. I, myself go out to the parents where the kids are, and talk with them FOR HOURS.
I have a 12yo boy who comes over and cuts my grass.
The kids play street hockey and the ball constantly goes into my yard.
Football too.
Soccer ball too.
The neighborhood kids WAVE AT ME when I drive by!!!!!!!
Do you know WHY this happens to me and the Parents and Kids in my neighborhood??
Because they did a little thing called RESEARCH on me. They went to the courthouse, they read transcripts and depositions and they used their own good judgement— not some “hyped-up fear mongering crap” that they are trying to feed you.
Yes, April, I am listed as a Sex Predator; but as you put it “thru your own fear & ignorance” you do not see past a flyer.
Do you think those parents, whom are MY FRIENDS would let me anywhere near their kids if I was such a “bad man”” (over 20+ years????????) unless they did their OWN research first?
I put up Christmas decorations, News Years Stuff, 4th of July and Thanksgiving. (Oh, yes, I CAN give out candy on Halloween ((LEGALY)) but I dont)
Have you ever thought in your protective mind that maybe, JUST MAYBE, a Mother would fall OUT of love with her husband (after the late mother of the father left him an estate of over a 1/4 MILLION dollars) Coerce the daughter of making up charges of false rape, NEVER show up at any of the trial dates… The Public Pretender wasnt present at my trial; only to ask ME “if I made a plea deal yet”.
On the day of the divorce which the ex-wife told the Judge “YES, I set the son of a bitch up…… and took him for everything he got.
You see April, like it or not, I am the victim, not the step daughter.
April, Please dont be ignorant. Educate your self. Did you know, in Florida you can be labeled a SEX-OFFENDER for peeing on a dumpster ?????
It’s not being ignorant. They have served their time and many have their own families that shouldn’t be punished. There is absolutely no reason to keep SO’s from being able to have a Christmas tree up. Or lights.
April,
Are you saying all victims share the same opinion as your own?
April
Your coment is very rude its people like you that dont give anyone a second chance.You are quick to judge someone and you dont even have all the facts or the whole story.Some people are on this registry because of computer virus .people with your attitude who like to condem someone without knowing the complete story that is what I call ignorant.
April will keep her thought until a family member or friend happens to get charged falslily or not then her attiude and thinking will change in a heartbeat second
Many of us on this forum have small children. And we are informed enough at least to know that almost none of our sex registry laws will protect them, as we originally had assumed. It would take a great deal of ignorance or naïveté nowadays to think otherwise. Nor do registry laws serve the interests of victims or their families. Thank goodness you have not been a victim or you would already know that.
April,
You are making yourself out to be the “SELF-PROCLAIMED VICTIM” here.
Join the ever growing list…
Hillary
Warren
Ortez
Harris
Pelosi
L. Book
Did you read Green Eggs &Ham?
War of the Worlds?
Watch CNN?
All of us on this site will be more that happy to sit down and talk with you on ANY fears you might have about sex-offenders
Troll post – keep moving there is nothing to see here
April,
Within 10 houses of me are 15 families; with about an average of 2-3 kids in each house. The kids play in front of my house, one even cuts my grass. They play street hockey, basketball, roller-skate, throw a football around……….
WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS THIS——
You have “chicken little complex” of ……
there is a sex offender in the neighborhood.
Have you TALKED TO THIS PERSON??????
Have you talked to his neighbors?
Have you gone to the courthouse and PULLED HIS CASE FILE AND READ IT???????
Gee……………
Thats what MY neighbors did. They came to their OWN CONCLUSION that I AM NOT a threat
(even tho I have the great distinction of being labeled a PREDATOR)
NOT to bring politics into this, but, Get your FACTS straight before you start screaming “the sky is falling— there is a “bad man” in my neighborhood.
Every felon in Florida must register in the county of her or his Florida residence for up to 5 years, not just sex offenders.
“Every” felon or those considered career felons?
In some states, just being a felon gives you the label as “career felon.” Once you are in the system, you stay there. I lived in Florida years ago. I was convicted of a sex offense in Ohio and my job transferred me to that god awful state. The sheriffs office couldn’t wait to charge me with a bunch of bs. When I moved from one place to another, my wallet, credit cards, id and everything got stolen. I went to the DMV to let them know and I needed to get a new copy of my social security card, birth certificate and other ways to prove my identification. Many had to come from Ohio, so there was a wait. The police took a police report on the theft and I went to the local offender registry office to notify them of the situation. They said, “no problem, just get it taken care of ASAP.” See down there, the sheriffs office depends on the DMV for the address change, which is completely different in Ohio. Less than 48 hours from the time I notified them, which was on a Friday, I was arrested for not updating my address. When I told them what was going on, which the actual detective who arrested me was the person I talked to less than 48 hours prior, they said, “tough luck,” and took me to jail for a 3rd degree felony. I was looking at 5 years in prison because of this. I ended up getting 6 months probabtion all because they started questioning me before I was read my rights. At that point, I shut up and everything was thrown out because of the fruit of the poisonous tree act. I was given 6 months probation for “resisting arrest without violence.”
I moved back to Ohio 2 days after I was taken off probation. That was in 2009, here it is 2019 and I’m still on the registry in Florida and my requirement to register in Ohio was up in 2013.
We are trying to raise funds for a case to challenge that.
this is to Kevin take your release letter from 2013 send it to FDLE they will remove you…I was living in Iowa I was put on 10 yrs reg. there in Iowa SOR then i was remoeved but I lived in florida then so I thought ok Il send it FDLE and even im still living in florida they removed me after reviewing my criminal record
on seconf thought they got you for failure to reg that could be sticky situation that could back fire to your hometown now
I sent all of my paperwork from both the court and the local sheriff office that shows my registration requirements. I contacted FDLE multiple times and they told me that I will stay on the registry.
Kevin I think you fell under Megans law 2006 is the reason for them not removing you or the fact you beat there charge of bullshit and only reveived resisting W/O
I was taken off 2005.. i waiting to see after 15 yrs what kind of bullshit they can think of to put me back on but if they fk up then its on them now but at this point I have my home up for sale here in florida if i rect it i still have property here catch 22
I currwntly live in PA with 2009 conviction and my registration ends in a few months. My understanding of FL law is once a conviction anywhere you are an automatic lifetime registrant if you move to FL. Are you saying there is a way to “beat” the FL system? Or is there enough red-tape in place that I would be stuck with a “FL ### COMPLIANT” Drivers License the rest of my life and a pin on the map of offenders?
Michael bare with me for a while on this
what i see and understand is you vaca to florida while on the SOR yes by law you do have to reg. even if you are here for a Week, granted FL. will not remove you when you leave, it keeps there fraudgulent list and funding comming in
if your released from SOR and come to FL to Vaca. or live there has to be a trigger in place that flags your presents in FL if you you get pulled over and your not SOR but have sex offence in past they cant just automatic slam your ass back in the SOR where is the probable cause? I was released from 1 state SOR and live in FL had sherriffs contact many many times in 25 plus yrs and was question on that fact many times they cant or shall I say legally make an assumption and charge you with failure to reg…
on your release Letter it should contain the words :you have been released from SOR any flags or indicators will be removed from the internet as well as the national data base that your 10 yr membership has ended.
now the sticky part of this is you are reg in florida and PA but was put on the 10 yrs membership out of PA. then Florida should honor it after checking to ensure you have no other serious crimes but for the fact that Florida needs to keep it list bloated most likly Not! before you submit to florida the PA release letter it is best to see an attorney to draft a strongly worded letter that your scarlet letter has ended at the registration was for 10 yrs origionally out of PA NOT florida they have no Jurisdiction to hold you any longer and that your punishment on the SOR has ended and you will need an attorney dont wing it on your own I did I got lucky they honor another states release letter of 10 yrs been off now 16 yrs and live in south florida
If a person stops and thinks, if your on a 10 yr SOR and you go to Fl or another life time state. and register how under AWA/megans law can a person be released in 1 state and remain on anothers state for life?
technically that state that released you violated megans laws that you are registered in another life time state and shall remain on that SOR in the state that gave you the 10 yr registration.. thusfore for it makes the other states of 10/20/Reg Void
if your a SOR out of a 10/20 reg. state and get released but SOR in another state for life …then the states with 10/20/ when checking NCIC will see your life time offender in another state making you ineligable for the 10/20/ release which in all actually is unconstutional as the life time trumps the 10/20 reg.
Just sayin if your released from a 10/20 state registration but still SOR in a life time state..in the event you get pulled over and the LE runs a check on you, the life time state pops up then your ass is in deep shit FTR in that state persuant to florida Life time reg.
personally I want someone to show me that law where is says if you have a sex offense in your past. but not registered ever you have to sink your own ship destry your own family to live in the hurricane state
Look into doe’ s vs. Snyder a case in mi.it is now case law it is about mi. Sex offender registration
The law should be changed after a period of time you should not have to register if you stay clean.You paid your dept so you should be entitled to a second chance.God gave us a second chance
they don’t get 2nd chances because they re-offend you cannot change the sick mind that easy..
Tracy,
PLEASE provide a little thing called FACTS that ALL sex offenders re-offend??
Then compare it to the “re-offend rate” of drunks and dope dealers?
Please learn the facts before spouting off things you know nothing about………
It makes you sound like Ron & Lauren Book.
The recidivism rate for sex offenders is 13.8% in Florida. Why do the laws keep getting stricter?
That is quite a higher number than most statistics state. Remember, recidivism is ONLY for new sex offences, not for registration violations nor other crimes
Recidivism by definition “refers to a person’s relapse into criminal behavior, often after the person receives sanctions or undergoes intervention for a previous crime.”
It is a repeat offense not a new offense.
FDOJ creates scenarios called Sting Operations in almost every county annually. These are “victimless sex offenses” used to entrap citizens into sex offenders for life. These all fall under the “believe to be” laws creasted under Gov Scott in 2011.
Eric,
Please provide the data that made you arrive at that # please.
(after 15 years, I have seen, on this site, that the rate of re-offend is more like 1.3%)
It is VERY important that when using recidivism statistics, we are clear on what we are referring to. Sean is right, that the statistic that concerns most of the public is a repeat sexual offense – that someone charged with a sex offense will go out and molest a kid. This is VERY low. It starts VERY low and gets lower over time offense free in the community.
When re-arrest for any offense is included in recidivism statistics, that number can go up quite significantly. That’s because it includes “technical violations” that would not be illegal for anyone else, but if a registrant fails to do X,Y or Z it’s a crime. Combine the significant list of confusing requirements with the significant microscope registrants live under and the significant political pressure to re incarcerate them, it’s amazing that “recidivism” number is still lower than almost any other type of crime.
The US Sentencing Commission came out with a report in 2014 which had to clear up the confusion. They used two definitions, ”
General recidivism
refers to any criminal justice failure which resulted in either an arrest (with or without a conviction) for a new criminal offense or an arrest (without or without a revocation) for a “technical” violation of the offender’s conditions of supervision.
Sexual recidivism
refers to arrests (with or without a conviction) for sexual offenses only, both contact and non-contact offenses.”
Even the government’s own study found that the sexual recidivism was “7.4 percent, with the known “contact” sexual recidivism rate, a subset of the overall sexual recidivism rate, was 3.6 percent”. Those are the Federal Government’s own statistics!
When people hear “recidivism” statistics of any number, what they assume that means is the 3.6 percent they are actually fearful of. Not whether the person forgot to register their roommates rental car.
To FAC (and all on here at this site),
I have to explain something that most of you already know. I have Stage 4 COPD and am dying.
I do NOT want your pity (prayers are helpful tho)…..
I have nothing else to do all day long except to read thru the posts on FAC.
I DONT WANT TO BE RIGHT — I JUST WANT OFF THIS LIST!
But when misleading “facts/stats” are being put out there (much like Ron & Lauren Books drivel) to me it makes it that much harder to imagine myself “FREE”.
We are making great progress towards changing the laws; but, to me, it always seems 1 step FWD and then 2-3 steps BACK.
Imagine, as you all have done at one point or another, cried over the position we are in — now imagine that you cant take a breath to TRY to cry, or sob. The tears come, they sting worse than if I could take a deep breath and sob. Then it all stops, the tears, the breath…. and I choke till I throw up.
When I first joined FAC, I was mad, pissed at the world. I have all of the court documents that proved there was no physical way possible that I could have “raped my step-daughter”. I got shafted by the court, my divorce attorney and in the end my ex stated to the judge “yea, I set the SOB up…. and took him for everything he got”.
I had to battle Dr Bunce & Dr Spencer both in therapy and in court till my then GF called the judge and told him that I tried to eat a shotgun one night after a “therapy session”. The judge took me out of their “classes”, admonished them for NOT following Judges orders and put me in private therapy. Since then I was told by at LEAST 20 different cops that it was impossible for me to do that crime. (like that does me any good now, 25 years later)
I have since changed my mind about FAC, and what their mission is. I try to make it MY mission to try and keep the facts straight on here.
It is the only way (that I know of) that I can help. Please dont take it that I am trying to “control this site” as that is the last thing I want to do.
Forgive me; as writing this post has even gotten me out of breath to a point that I have to take breathing treatments and lie down.
MUCH LOVE TO ALL ON HERE— ALL I WANT IS, THE SAME AS YOU — TO BE OFF THE REGISTRY.
I just did a risk assessment with stat 99 for USCIS my risk to reoffend is less then 2% after 29 yrs
No it’s not – it hovers around 1% and as to why – simple – the creation of a second class citizen provides a number of benefits to the government and LE.
Please do keep in mind that 60% of those listed on the Florida registry do not live in Florida which renders the claimed (falsely) that the registry provides a listing for concerned parents to check and monitor. Not even close to being a believable lie with the majority listed NOT even in the state!
Want more info and details on his this government scam works – visit my blog.
some of us have not committed crimes in the past 8 years Can that be said about those who get their voting rights back?
So people who have not re-offended, re-offend, is the point you’re making.
Seriously, I think you are pointing out the obvious— people who pose a high risk to re-offend, should rarely if ever be afforded a second chance, while those who don’t, should be.
Thankfully, we know a lot more than we knew 20 years ago regarding which populations are high risk to re-offend and which are not. Those statistics, from the U.S. Justice Department and others, may be found on FAC’s website, last I checked.
So we no longer have to rely on urban legends when it comes to, whom should we be afraid of, vs who deserves a second chance.
Jacob,
And some of us are on the “list” of the ones who are most likely to re-offend, AKA Predators, and did nothing wrong. NO crime, just railroaded, 1 1/2 years after the fact. Hauled into court and told “you are a predator”.
So you are saying that ALL (with big, wide sweeping brush) that someone who didnt commit this crime, was told he is now a predator, and has remained offense free for almost 25+ years does NOT deserve a second chance??
Oh……
Did I mention that I am a member IN GOOD STANDING in my community?
Hey Jacob, The point I was trying to make was I haven’t been in trouble for close to it now 9 years. I should get my voter rights.back. My grievance is certain other violent crimes can commit crimes and use the Dept of Corrections as revolving door and get their voting rights back each time they go out commit a crime and finished a sentence. I run my arrested and conviction free against any other violent crime out there. I come out smelling like a rose. Just think almost nine (9) years Their have been others who made twenty (20)years arrest free and conviction free This comparison is to violent crimes also
Not everyone reoffends! Do you know every single person’s specific circumstances and specifics of every single case?! No? Then you have absolutely no right to be so judgemental! Many people are on the registry for non sexual assault incidences. Before you spew hate and uneducated words maybe try doing some research and have some compassion!
@ Rachel ……..You Go Girl !!!
Yes certain sex offenders but not someone that had a consensual relationship with a minor at the age of 20.. One year outside the Roneo and Juliet law and never had a sex re- offense in 25 years.
They need a tier system in Florida.
Unfortunately I’m a sex offender. I committed my crime in 2000. Here we are in 2019 and I haven’t re-offended. When will I be able to get a second chance? I see people with violence in their rap sheet re-offended time and time again and they always get a second chance.They get to vote now, but not l. I hear in the news how non sex offenders gives candy out on holloween laced with drugs. When they get out they are stilled allowed to pass out candies. When have we ever heard of a child being lured to a house on any holiday by a stranger and molested?
I believe in making things safe for children, politicians are not making things safer, just being immaturely punitive and stirring hate where it’s not needed.
And their should be a system that allows you to traverse the tiers… using things like time passed with good behavior and competition of group, analysis by a psychiatrist, hell, passing a polygraph.
They didn’t want a polygraph when I offered before conviction saying it didn’t prove anything. Once I was on probation, those damn things were god’s word. Most alot they were shocked as hell when I passed my denial AND history polygraphs (that I had to pay for) but it didn’t change that I was a sexual predator.
Less than 5% “reoffend” and registering wouldn’t stop someone if they wanted too, common sense
EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE A SECOND CHANCE WHEN THEY SERVE THEIR TIME NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO BE TREATED LESS THAN TRASH BECAUSE OF A MISTAKE
Scenario: (which was actually a show on) a mentally challenged adult goes and pees in public not knowing the harm, gets caught and has to register, there was no “sick” intentions there but now that persons life is forever ruined
Such a close minded statement with no facts to back it up
Hannah,
Time to time we get “trolls” in here. One person “claimed” that he had been to every prison here in Fla. for more than 20+ years. Never told us his charge. BUT, as he stated, he had within 5 years of release several cars, houses and the such.
But he did go on & on, on how they would treat sex offenders in jail. Truly biased and hateful remarks.
The “FAC ARMY” (the members) found out who he was and his criminal record.
I think FAC finally banned him.
There are always going to be the ones who here the term “sex offender” and no matter what you do, you are the scum of the earth.
(Believe me, I know… My neighbor of 20+ years just started to talk to me after he found video of me going after 2 people trying to rob his truck.)
These added rules/regulations are hideous to say the least. We’ve heard about amendment 4 coming up for a vote and how we should all vote NO due to it excluding our community of Sex offenders as well as Murderers. But how about the confusing writing of Amendment 11? It sounds like if laws (or Punishments) change after someone has been convicted of a crime in the past they can impose these new changes on them…….just like we have currently been treated…….but voting for this or not, if there are changes for the better for us can that prevent the positive change to affect us who are already continuing to be punished? I find this amendment to be totally confusing. Looking for some clarity. Thank you.
these laws should be struck down by the Supreme Court as there is no amendment prohibiting where sex offenders can live. Also, these laws are “feel good legislation”, for instance… why restrict them from living anywhere kids might be, bus stations, parks, beaches… makes no sense as Sex Offenders or Predators usually never offend in the area they live. %83 of sex offender traveled more than five miles from their homes to offend in other communities. What is to top a SO or predator from getting in their car and drive into another community to offend. The residency laws are nonsense and do not prevent sexual assault. My elderly father is an S.O. from 1985, more than 33-years ago, has never had another issue, is not on probation, parole or anything. Yet, he is subject to laws preventing him from living with me anywhere in Fort Lauderdale or Miami where I have homes. MOST S.O. offenders who have offended in the past RARELY re-offend, especially older people. It’s time to challenge these draconian laws. Look, I have kids, and it would kill me if something like this happened to them, but feel-good legislation has been shown NOT TO WORK. If someone wants to commit a sex offense, they are going to get in their cars, on buses and trains and travel as we see all the time on the news… people are mostly captured when luring someone on the internet who they then travel to meet.
http://gis.fortlauderdale.gov/SexOffenderAreas/?center=-8919670%2C3022470&scale=36111.909643&
Recently, Fort Lauderdale’s restrictive sex offender laws were struck down as unconstitutional
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/ft-lauderdale-florida-sex-offender-residency-restriction-declared-unconstitutional/
S.O. can live wherever they want. It is my belief, that once an S.O. is found guilty, sent to prison and completes parole, their debt to society is paid just like a murderer, robber, kidnapper, burglar, carjacker, and those are very violent felons who have no sort of supervision or restrictions. Who is to say they will not kill, rob, carjack again? The recidivism rate is much higher for those crimes than S.O. who have completed their sentences?
When the Supreme Court upheld registration laws generally in 2003, Justice Breyer speculated at the time that, were they to review a challenge to residency restrictions specifically, those might be found to be unconstitutional. And today we have even better evidence that these restrictions do not promote public safety or protect children. So various challenges I think are working their way through the court system.
Well if you are off parole/probation I would leave that state yesterday if you have a job in Florida then move to Alabama on the state line then go to work everyday if the cops give you any problems call the us Marshalls because as long as you are legal in Alabama let them know where you work they can’t touch you. As long as you don’t live there you do have to tell them shit.
Hello,
Family member in Highlands County for failure to register after 15 years of no issues. Apparently built in apps on our phones can cause problems (facebook messenger) along with sales apps like offer up and dating apps.
My question is, when did the internet identifiers and built in apps become mandatory reporting? I have read and re read Florida State Statutes, but cannot find information the when question.
TIA
Kat
in 2014
draconian laws which are not grounded in reality.
Alot of sex offenders lately these past 5 years or more are from sex sting people are on internet to me adult there are article saying undercops are doing the controling to have them committe a creime no victimin they arent propecting parents and chilren at all your right if they were going to do any sexual crime they would go away from where they live 10pm to 6am homeless where is their supervised re think your registery probation according to paragraph 16 after 1000 ft rule states they must come out and measure which i heard a probation officers in jax fl said no they dont do that then said be glad the offender can sleep in a vehicle alot of them dont they paid there time fix all registery has abrusive kidnapping raping plan words victimin sex sting donot have victimin so no to restergy
My name is john wright i was caught in a sex sting here in fl a yera ago i go to court in the morning at 830 they want me to plea to 11-29 in jail and 5 years sex offender probation for a fictional person from pof and Craigslist not sure what im going to do it just seems that the state of fl dont give a dam about ruining someones life only the money its sad that this world has come to what it is im not a child preditor ive lost my home my motorcycle im out over 20.000 cash because i was inticed to commit a crime by the police pretending to be an adult then a child at 14 they just assume you going to have sex and not give the person a chance to backout once the meet takes place i was unsure of the age because the pictures they sent had her wearing wedding band ring i feel the 1st amendment is no longer our right
If you are pending charges – the only person you should be talking with about the specifics of your case is your lawyer.
I agree sir these stings are getting out of hand no victimin no registery usa today april 8 2014 has article on that undercover cops are not going by procedures and getting these people to committe crime. Check it out yes i am wring on that too all articles have victimins
My son was convicted .never been in trouble in his life and there was pictures he never downloaded or viewed.he is disabled .you get less time for actually touching a child because they think if there is photos you will eventually touch a child.there is no proof of that.but noone gets a fare chance because the sheriff likes to run his pie hole
The simplistic evil intent is so overt that anyone with half a brain can see it clearly.
This is simply designed to make it easier for law enforcement to violate more and more registered citizens with a technical violation and give them yet another “strike” giving the artificial and totally false increase to the number of “sex offenders” who re-offend! Come on!
This is abuse and bullying and nothing more. This shit needs to stop NOW!
How does anyone know if these men will go back on internet to find adult then fine out it is a sex sting you dont read hear of anyone redoing scheriff in jax fl on tv say most of them never had a recorder so whats that telling you judge order a sex test while in county da at sentence says donot take in conceration of one dr opion then why tell judge you want it done because not the out come he wanted
Could this be challenged as being a paradox?
The statute reads permanent address is 3 or more consecutive days. Temporary address is 3 days in aggregate.
So say you travel and stay somewhere 4 days, by definition that is not a temporary address it is permanent address even though it is actually a temporary address.
Now correct me if I am wrong but if you have a permenant address in another county that would require you to register in that county.
For every dumb$$$ law that Florida passes I cringe and die inside just a little more….but today a beautiful law was passed in a state that actually stirred a little hope in my heart for humanity and the American culture which I saw as going into a shamble of (????)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/utah%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98free-range-parenting%E2%80%99-law-said-to-be-first-in-the-nation/ar-BBKNMp6?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
Finally some sensical journalism in an otherwise bleak landscape…enjoy all!
Anon – thank you for that article – I posted it on my FB. I love Free Range Kids. Isn’t it refreshing that a state actually bases laws on the truth and not some politician generated fear? However, how sad is it that a state feels compelled to make a law that says it is ok for kids to play outside. I do not know the status of RSO laws in Utah but I hope the lawmakers can now make the logical jump that kids are safe and change some of the policies concerning RSOs
@Karen,
I follow your posts carefully…it would seem that you are either related to or a significant other of an RSO..either way I too find it refreshing when I read / see / or hear about a woman not being intimidated by the fear monger machine. In prison RSO’s are not allowed to even look at a woman. One of the many facts and facets that I personally had to overcome related to my own PTSD from this nightmare.
Thanks for the kind words!
Anon – my son is an RSO. CP , adjudication withheld (really means nothing in FL), teenager looking at teenagers 🙁
Unless things have changed significantly in the last 18 years, adjudication withheld DOES mean a LOT. It means that you dod not lose all of your civil rights forever. That means you can vote at some point without having to rely on executive clemency which will not be forthcoming. It also very well could mean that you will not be permanently barred as a practical matter from certain professions like being a lawyer.
IF Amendment 4 passes forget your voting rights being restored– adjudication withheld or not.
under the rules of united state Immigration and nationally act withhold adjuication means conviction to them and special offence and can not file a i-129 or I-130 so If you all have plans of marry a forien national you will never be able to bring her or him here.they wil do there very best to block it with a NO RISK clause which has only been done 6x out of 1000s of family based petitions convicted or not of a special offence (sex crime)
Oh and I know about the PTSD all too well – family gets it too. I am so paranoid at knocks on the door – seeing LE makes my heart race….
Aron, great law for kids and parent alike. However, the posting of this kind of info may be a little inappropriate, in my opinion, for posting on a sex offender info type website. Always keep in mind that alot of people tend to see only the worst in us as sex offenders/predators. Many may see free range children as an opportunity equating to easy prey for a child sex offender. Not good…appearance and perception really is everything …
what’s wrong? afraid of the truth?
Hey I dont know if this is allowed, but if anyone lives in district 22 (poll county, lake city area) there is someone trying to run for state Senate there and trying to get enough signatures on the ballot. His name is Ryan Morales. Hes running as an independent and is a little more liberal on issues than I like, but I spoke to him about our situation and he said he completely understands and has friends on the registry, and would be willing to look into other solutions to help us. It could definitely help us even if we dont live in his district, I believe any potential for reform by someone who will look at facts over emotion is a good thing. Hes real strong on criminal justice reform, wants to do away with the private prison industry etc. Thought I should share as I had a nice conversation with him about it even though hes not in my district
Thanks for information i will definetly contack him on some of these issuse too yes registery needs rework but most people dont care thanks
” Our Ex Post Facto lawsuit is coming!”
Are we challenging AWA in the State of Florida?
Another chance for the Books to operate on their own agenda Senator Book gets to exact more revenge and steal state money for her charity while claiming she’s protecting children and her father gets to make himself and all those politicians he funneled money to through campaign contributions richer by filling for profit prisons with sex offenders that violated some stupid counterproductive law that his daughter came up with including our governor
I’ve been a reg S.O. 11yrs, and my advise to all reg S.O.’s is simple:
1.If u have any family get to them ASAP, keeps rogue Police/Citizen’s from harassing you, stops covert entrapment schemes,
2. Except the facts, reality is Sex Offender Law’s will always be fueled, geared up again and again as Governor’s keep changing!
3. Regardless what Law’s are thrown at S.O.’s, the reality is if/when a child is hurt and in some cases Killed there’s going to “HELL” to pay for it!
4. The biggest contributor, cause of the Governor’s enacting tougher S.O. Law’s you’ll often find there’s another case of a injured child!
5. The child and female survivers live Life Sentence’s also! I don’t have to tell u the judges name’s do I? If so reply.
Hang it up, pack it in, close up shop. Isolated.Death only relief.
@Mark
Don’t say death is your only relief, because of the effort of fac legal and supporters of ex post facto challenge is all going to change soon… have faith brother!
What do you mean by ex post facto challange? What exactly does that mean?
In general terms it means “After the fact”. In our case, it means changing the rules and/or adding punishments after you sentence is supposed to be done. For instance, back in 2000 you could petition to get off the registry after ten years. Now, it is for life.
Too many examples to list here.
The ex post facto case is to at least roll back reporting rules to something more reasonable.
In FL even after death you are required to register twice a year, register all communication methods, and can not be buried within 1000ft of a school, Park, or cemetery.
These are the times that try men’s souls
Overrit,Thanks for the laughs,i needed it,,,,,
Bruce,
Overit is not kidding. Take a GOOD LOOK at the Fla Registry. There are people listed as deceased.
Oh, how true that is… how much it hurts is incomprehensible. the worst part of the whole death part is, which will hurt our family the most… what they’re currently going through, or the death part.
–godspeed guys! just one more day. just one more day.
Florida continues to run wild on the fight against the Constitution of the United States as if they are a country unto themselves!
This shit has got to stop. It is abuse plain and simple. Human rights violations are not the way for a free society to evolve. It seems that Florida is fine with de-evolving back into the dark ages with witch hunts…how far will this rogue state government be allowed to go!?!
Those who have paid their debt are homeless, unemployable, targets for hate crimes (with the photo and address provided) and countless other human rights violations.
I will say it again…this SHIT has GOT to STOP!
In my last Re-Reg (Orange County) there were several Homeless Registrants. The Registar was so swamped that he simply gave them a map and told them to circle the area closest to where they sleep at night. That means the cops themselves violated Florida Statutes of Residency. There is no way to monitor every Homeless Offender. So if a Offender that has no permanent address and is homeless moves his or her sleeping bag each night, does this new restriction apply? This is another basically unenforceable law when it comes to Registrants that have no address. @JEV1A
Thats so true a remark by jax probation said be glad that a person is sleeping in a vechile along side a road but yet he is consider homeless where is supervison on that according to court order paragraph 16 has the 1000 ft rules also states they must come out to measure resident boundary line to the area of what they live close to park school playground probation said they dont do that they go by a dot i guess thats your resident with a circle around it thats what they look at
What do the Books have on all the weak-kneed politicians in Florida?????
Perpetual imprisonment in private prisons is exactly what the current Florida administration is playing at. All along the politicians & media dehumanize ROs(calling humans animals, monsters, etc.).
Step one-destabilization.
Step two-legislate into homelessness.
Step 3- legislate into prison for being homeless.
Step 4- Get rich!
Why? Governors, legislators, congressional staff & law enforcement are buying private prison stock & planning on getting rich by keeping the prisons full of ROs.
The Governor removed any possibility of felons regaining Voting rights upon taking office. No voice, no hope & no future. Except, perpetual imprisonment to fill politicians’ coffers at the expense of others’ wasted lives.
Life is about constant change & growth.
Conduct a counter cyber campaign geared at political character assassination & get rid of these slimy turds by showing everyone their’ dirty secrets & plans for perpetual imprisonment. Insist legislation at the Federal Level prohibiting these people & their’ families from any such investments. Then, maybe the majority of us can lead a peaceful & productive life & actually contribute to our communities’.
Genuine care, consideration & positive motivation are integral for successfulness. Why is our Government not doing those things instead? They capitalize from destabilizing society but not by giving it real solid structure. If this were untrue the politicians would be fixing the problem & not creating more problems.
Lambert V. California may be useful to you in regards to out of state registrants traveling to Florida who may not be aware of their obligations.
Golden nugget!
Even attempting to understand the law without lawyers should also be a good argument. Why should a person be forced to try and interpret difficult to understand legal jargon through a costly attorney, simply if they are traveling or even moving (which technically is still traveling). Our Constitution grantees us freedom of travel without restriction. Yet, these laws prevent freedom of travel without the threat of repercussions in doing so.
There is another “gotcha” that most people are unaware of that works really, really well for the cops to use on people. That is, if you travel away from a State to another state, they can ask you to “check in” when you arrive at the destination State. In doing so, they can violate you for absconding. It happened to me. Prior to my travel I simply asked what I had to do, paperwork-wise prior to travel and they said “nothing”.
It’s almost getting to the point where it’s pointless to try. My entire life is now so fragile and can be upheaved and destroyed at almost a moment’s notice, with or without good reason, and I would have to start all over again.
America doesn’t want me to stay but they won’t let me leave either.
When does it end. :/
Sigh, sigh, and sigh again. How can a punishment of probation (a criminal punishment) be assessed for the violation of a civil infraction to people that have completed their sentences? It is just absolutely mind boggling. It is ever going to end? I can remember once when my son saw a judge for a reported violation (all turned out well and it was dropped) the judge was actually amused because she said she wanted to see how they were going to enforce a punishment for a civil violation – so even the judge (and a harsh one at that) knew that this system is flawed.
did anyone have any doubts ?? hundreds , if not thousand of phone calls and emails sent to senate and representatives, and i would be willing to bet NONE in favor.
What can we do to fight this? Where is the ACLU? What can I do?
I can assure you when I get off probation in July, I am going to South Carolina to see my family for at least a week. I will travel to Tallahassee to watch my Seminoles play football, I will go wherever the hell I feel like going, and the LAST thing I will do, is worry about that damn new law that Prick Scott just signed which was sponsored by Lauren Crook and her mob boss father. I’m going to live my life how I want and not give there idiots a second thought. Have a great day ya’ll.
You get what you give. Screw them, did my time, do what is asked of me even though no one can interpret the law??? The dumb asses in Seminole county only want to find reasons to arrest you. Go live you life. F them!!
Forget about EFP. That has been violated since the beginning of this unconstitutional Law was passed. But guess what we are not human and have no rights……. take your rights you have no defense, take your weapons they own you… what Americans don’t understand is this will soon happen to all if we dont stand up against it. I’m tired of all the BS talk by attorneys and so call committees that say this is a violation of the constitution, yet don’t do shit to stop. Let’s see action and we will believe you????
How can we be part of the lawsuit?
mr. Scott…
Why did you do this??
$$$$$.Get the hint? Shouldn’t Rick Scott’s ass be in jail by now?
So you are trying to tell us you are helping us but you edit freedom of speech, I would call that hypocritical???
Don’t vote for Rick Scott. He is the one who sign for more strict laws for sex offender. Don’t vote for Desantis it will only get worse for sex offender and sex predators. Vote for Gillum he will be less strict.
In fact seem like Rick Scott was the one who sign for life time registration for all sex offender. LIFETIME!!!! Ridiculous like we kill some body. They need to realize we are humans too. I can understand 10 yrs but Lifetime. You might as well give up in life like I have. Can’t get a job living in a 1958 trailer and can’t live a decent life only because I was in a sting operation and the only thing I did was drive in a gated prison neighbor and never got out to meet a 14 yrs old boy. All I did was drive off and try to get out of the prison gate neighbors when all swat team swarm me and told me to get out of the cars now like I was a terrorist. Shame on all those cop in Florida trying to set some one up. Bait and trap. So illegal,but they get away it because the us government is a organize crime unit. Any the lawyer in Florida don’t care cause it’s all about money and don’t care about nothing but there Mercedes. They do what they want when they want to do it. Government suck and everyone should vote for Gillum for governor if we can live a fair life in Florida and be all equal.