H1301/SB1226 Passes
Sadly, but not surprisingly, the Florida Legislature passed another stupid, punitive and unnecessary sex offender bill that will only enrich those in private prisons, the GPS vendors and the Books.
We put up a very strong and valiant effort reaching out to our legislators. We expected the wishes of their constituents would not be as compelling as the campaign contributions from Book, but all your letters and efforts will become very useful when it comes to a lawsuit.
Don’t despair… this is just more support for our lawsuit!
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Duval county Sheriff’s department is going to love losing their 5 days off for Christmas just to register me two days sooner I suppose.
That’s the statistic you want to track, the additional cost to local law enforcement keeping registration offices open on holidays… Time and a half for two days is three days of full pay
Do you actually believe they are going to change their hours? I highly doubt that will happen, this law is about your compliance not the other way around.
In my county if you call registration and get voicemail they tell you the the response time is within 72 hours, and make sure to point out that leaving voicemail is not compliance in itself.
They will have to
Why do you assume they have to? There is nothing that’s states that they have to.
There are already counties that have hours that make it impossible to comply with the 48 hour requirements. For example pinellas county registration office is only open tues-thurs.
it was 48 hours + 5 days
What if you have a emergency and have to before you can give 48 hours notice like on a weekend or holiday
48 hours notice can be after
5 days is almost impossible in some situations. 3 days…………a very sad day.
I’m not sure if that part changed from 5 to 3 days yet. I did not find it in the final bill that was adopted. Does anyone know?
Nothing goes into effect with this until July 2018…at least that’s what I learned from reading the bill and what FAC told me…I could be wrong though
I travel frequently, including emergency last minute out-of-state travel, and yet to experience any difficulties with full compliance with Florida’s registration requirement or SORNA. The local Sheriff and DHSMV are coardial and accommodating. A quick polite phone call ahead of time for emergency situations always seems to help. My county is fortunate enough to have great staff at the registration desk.
The three (3) day registration period does seem a little restrictive but is not that out of the norm. Several states have a three (3) day rule. Tennessee has a mandatory minimum sentence as well, they actuallly require jail time and a fine for registration violations.
I do not agree with the mandatory minimum should you be adjudicated guilty by the court for the specific registration violation. The judiciary should be given discretion to impose a fair sentence based upon the sentencing scoresheet, PSI, and the specific facts of the case. Strictly by the scoresheet, a registration violation is a Level 7 offense and scores a prison term of 21- 60 months, assuming the defendant does not have any scoreable previous history in the last 10 years. The judge can deviate downward based on a wide set of reasons. Should the judge deviate and not sentence to a prison term, they will now be forced to impose at a minimum, community control with electronic monitoring. I’ve seen judges issue 3-6 months probation sentences (no community control) because of the extenuating circumstances of the case. You do get overzealous prosecutions and one way to help combat this is judicial discretion, however, this is now being taken away.
In Tennessee, if found guilty of a sex crime and you go to prison, your points automatically start at 4, and they cannot go any lower than that. Some cannot go below a 6 because of the violent nature of a particular sex crime, say like beating your victim.
look at the last year, first this bill/passport identifier/tighter living restrictions/ internet identifier and i am sure i am missing something all within the last year. for all of those that thought it was going to get easier for RSO’S the reality is starting to set in. the government wants us all on an island somewhere away from the rest of society or permanently in jail and they are passing bills normal people couldn’t abide by never mind someone with a handicap like ours
If there is this much corruption, Why isn’t some news organization doing an expose on this?
The US media is busy talking about Russian or North Korea, their next ‘boogeyman’ to wage wars on, or sex scandals related to the White House, since America needs to know about what’s going on in everyone else’s bedroom. The US media is mostly garbage, and it’s a joke for people to actually depend on it for important news. If it doesn’t cause fear in people, then it won’t be reported. Fear=more eyeballs on the television screen=more advertising revenue.
You are correct, Joe. THEY rule by fear. Scare the people, watch them react (the people will beg you to protect them from the newly-created bogeyman), then introduce the solution (which is usually prepared in advance), and how the sheople will gladly vote for you, surrender their Creator-endowed rights with little if any questioning, pay taxes to your coffers, and keep coming back for more of the same.
Problem. Reaction. Solution. This is the way they have always done it. But those of us in this group are not sheople. We think for ourselves. We do not let others form our opinons for us…we form our own opinions. We question everything. This is how we will survive and succeed in this ongoing fight against the grave injustice perpetrated upon our families and us as individuals. Never let them break you, for it they can break your mind then they will have destroyed your human spirit. No fear.
In our particular circumstance we are used for shock value and pandering purposes bith politicians and so called journalists use us for career and monitary gain in other words registrants are a slam dunk and a cash cow if we are painted in a positive light money and careers go away
Did the part of the bill, that requires SO’s to notify the jurisdiction if gone for 5 days or more, change to 3 days? I did not see that part in there. If anyone knows please advise. Thanks! AND let’s keep the fight going!
Yes, Page 1 and 2 of HB 1301 sets out the new 3 day requirement.
Big J and Legal Eagle,
When was notifying your county/city that you’re leaving for five days ever a law? My interpretation was as long as you changed the place you stayed every four days, you could go anywhere in the state of Floriduh you wanted. Now you just have to do it every two days. What say you FAC Admin?
In Tennessee, to leave the county you have to give a days notice (excuse me, get permission), 2 weeks to leave the State, and a month to leave the country… this is contingent on you being required to wear a bracelet. Funny thing, when my PO does a house call, he calls me to ask, “Hey, are you home?”
Gene – you can’t confuse conditions of probation to registry conditions.
Probation is punishment. Registration is not (at least, not supposed to be)
FAC Admin,
When was notifying your county/city that you’re leaving for five days ever a law? My interpretation was as long as you changed the place you stayed every four days, you could go anywhere in the state of Floriduh you wanted. Now you just have to do it every two days.
Am I correct?
You are CORRECT!
Thanks for that affirmation! I will continue to travel as protest!
I asked this mainly because I heard from a fellow registered citizen who told his “authority figure” that he was contemplating attending a college in a nearby city, the authority figure asked if my friend intended to just drive there and back or stay the night. I was shocked that he asked my friend that.
How does he have the right to ask that? My understanding is that all you have to provide is the name and location of the college. Never volunteer extra information!
When one is on probation/parole, it constitutes ‘punishment’ to ‘correct (modify)’ one’s behavior (thus Department of Corrections or, in effect, Department of Behavior Modification). During such time, one is required to comply with a myriad of restrictions affecting one’s liberty, including liberty of movement, or be subjecting to the attending penalties (punishment) for non-compliance. One must ask for permission to travel and provide all of the personal and intimate details of said travel and, if permission is granted, one must often carry a document to show the so-called authorities that may pull one over for a victimless moving violation that you have, in fact, been granted permission by the almighty fictitious State to exercise your otherwise God-given right to travel freely upon His land that He created. But then one’s probation or parole is terminated, the so-called debt to society (though society as a whole did not suffer injury or damage from the one’s behavior) and, thus, the penal (punishing) act of having to ask the almighty State for permission to exercise your natural right to travel, along with having to provide all of the personal details of one’s travel, comes to a glorious end and one is now once again free to move about freely as s/he desires without having to ask permission from anyone or provide specifics. Or, so it should be. But, the truth is, no matter how much they attempt to sugar coat and justify the registration & public and community notification scheme, it only serves to transfer one from being under the supervision of one government entity (Department of Corrections/Parole) to another (Sheriff’s Office), thus being nothing less than the uninterrupted, ongoing penal nature of supervision by government, requiring a myriad of restrictions with attending punishments for non-compliance of said restrictions. Anyone who dares declare differently has their brain located in their big toe and stumped it on a piece of furniture in the middle of the night resulting in permanent brain damage.
The fellow registered citizen I speak of is off probation.
That’s how I do it. Now I’ll just have to change the place I stay after two nights. Very inconvenient. Nothing that I have seen says you have to let the county know if you are going to be gone, only if you establish temporary or permanent housing.
Correct, Jerry – just don’t spend more than 2 nights in the same place in one year.
I don’t care for Corcoran either but I do wish he’d have some success in ending all the profiteering of “lobbyists” like Ron Book. The level of corruption is ranked 10th in the nation.
What grounds will a lawsuit use to attack this injustice?
I imagine the grounds that each individual cannot have a ‘blanket law’ applied to them which causes potential punishment (they’re not in custody of the state, they shouldn’t be obligated to be punished) because they haven’t proven that person’s individual ‘dangerousness’ level. They can make registration OPTIONAL, but as soon as you apply a punishment to it, you better back up why that is needed. This seems to be the logical argument, but this is just one angle to use. There have been small ‘wins’ in the courts in recent 2 years that would potentially allow them to be used as building blocks for putting together a greater argument as described above.