Is your Sheriff’s Office requiring an itinerary for DOMESTIC travel?
A member has reported that when advising his local Sheriff’s Office of DOMESTIC travel, he was asked to report his flight information and specific itinerary.
For INTERNATIONAL travel that information is required by statute, but to our knowledge not for domestic travel, nor has it every been requested in the past.
If you have been asked to supply information such as flight or hotel details for domestic travel, please let us know in the comments below.
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Lake County Sheriff’s Office is asking for all of that type of information. Recently, while I was in their office, I mentioned potential domestic travel plans, to a state where I am not required to register, the deputy handed to me a pre-printed peice of paper with a block for all of this information. What exactly am I required to give them?
I am curious to see what everyone’s thoughts are…
I am going to Georgia for 3 nights. I will be at a different address each night, in 3 different towns. Is this travel something that gets registered in Florida? I take this trip every year over New Years.
I know Georgia’s laws: I do not have to register in their state for this trip.
NO Florida registration is called for here.
Good morning I just read your post. I’m not an attorney but I like you love to travel and I have been careful to follow the guidelines.FAC has done a great service to us in the information that they give out.
I have found them to be trustworthy.
If you will read my comment that I posted two days ago under the title sale time let’s see if I got it right you’ll get an idea of the leangth they went to to get this information to us.
With what you’re saying you’re totally legal from that standpoint of not being in any one place more than 3 or more days…
Have a great trip and have fun
Let’s see if I got it right.
According to a letter sent to FDLE by FAC in May 2018, concerning interstate travel, FAC received a response to that letter on May 3, 2018 from the Missing Person & Offender Registration, Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
The question to FDLE was concerning ” requiring an offender or predator … required to report domestic travel to another state if they will not establish a residency outside of Florida.” This was while the 5 or more day requirement was law. They stated in their response that would change to 3 days or more July 1, 2018.
FDLE responded “There is no language in s. 943.0435, F.S. or s. 775.21, F.S. requiring an offender or predator who has registered as required to report domestic travel…”
So therefore there is no reporting from what I read unless I am going to spend 3 or more days in one location during the calendar year.
That then brought up the question of what constitutes a “DAY”.
I wrote the legal team concerning this and was informed – don’t count the partial days. Only the complete days. That’s taken from the interpretation from the FDLE.”
This is the example I gave in my question ” If I were to fly from Florida to another state on a Thursday 2 pm and were to return to Florida on Sunday 3 pm would that be considered 3 days?. I ask this question because I had read that travel days were not considered full days.
So if what is above true then the confusion concerning itinerary it would only come into effect if staying more than 3 or more days in one place. If reporting itinerary such as has been being committed in the post is true.
Therefore is it true? FAC said they are looking into it, so we shall wait and see.
True
Well an actual testimonial: i register with vcso EVERY TIME i leave to my other home in another state. Its monthly and usually for 2 or 3 days. Im always told i dont need to but i do due to the local pd harassment if im not home ( not on any paper for 22 years) This last time Trip was from thursday morning to saturday evening: i was officially told that was TWO days.
A number of years ago, my wife and I traveled to NY to visit her sister and brother. Leon County required me to submit an itinerary containing method of travel (We drove, so we had to give Tag# of vehicle), addresses of all stops, length of stay and names with contact phone numbers of people we were visiting. And all this was to be submitted in person, in writing 72 hrs prior to departure.
When I travel by car I give the sheriff’s office my cell phone number and tag number…which of course they already have. I give my date of departure and anticipated date of return. I provide no lodging info as 90% of the time I have no idea as to where I will be spending the night. I stop when I get tired of driving or come upon a location I want to visit. I have never been one who likes to travel on a schedule unless it is somewhere that I am scheduled to be, such as a conference.
And yet, somehow, the Government says this is all just a civil compliance and not at all punishment. In other words, we cannot leave our homes without permission, even though we are not on probation, and yet if we do, we go to prison and have new charges added to our record as a deviant offender who doesn’t comply with the rules.
*” Watch out for that guy on the corner little Susie , he is a very very bad man. ” “Oh why Mommie what did he do?” Well Susie, that man went to see his Mother in another state without getting permission”. “Oh Mommie, he is a horrible man for sure”.
* On a side note, when I was on probation and was in court ordered counseling, a guy was telling us all about his court hearing. He went to court to have some charges dropped. About half way through the case hearing, the defense attorney approached the bench thinking the judge was taking great notes. Instead he saw the entire time the judge was working on a crossword puzzle. The case was rescheduled with a different judge. True story from Seminole County Florida.
That’s crazy. When my probation ended (about 2 decades ago), I made it clear to ALL LE that they weren’t going to be coming around my home or family. We certainly don’t talk to them. If there is something that I am forced to do (by “law” only), I will go to their offices and do it in writing only. I never speak to them about anything other than just normal, every day chatting that people do.
It is much, much easier to live life if you aren’t concerned about LE coming around you or speaking to them. Just makes everything easier. And I’ve found it easy to do. Just block off your home. Put a wall or fence around your property. If you can’t, just put a gate on your front porch. If you can’t, put clear signs on your doors instructing people not to knock and to get off of the property. If LE doesn’t respect that, start with hiring an attorney to point it out to them. Then go from there.
Facts seem to be in the mind of whomever is ‘wielding the sword’. Our system of laws will be totally out of control once enforcement or compliance is left up to ‘personal call’. Laws need to be specific otherwise how can there be any violation. We see a national example as we observe the fiasco concerning impeachment.
Sailtime,
Very useful information for me. Did you get the response about partial days in writing from FDLE, because that could be very useful indeed. Thanks!
Now I see the question was posed to FACs legal team. Sorry! Still would love to have a copy of their advice on partial days.
I live in Hernando county Florida every time I go away they asked me what plane I’m taking where my hotel room why am I going they ask me all that information they been doing it for a couple years
I got most of my time in that county. Spring hill I wish I never have heard of it I used lived on Dandelion ct.