Member Submission: When Probation imposes their own rules.
XXXXX is a registered citizen and was told by his probation officer that if he wanted to own a business in his name, that his probation office would notify all of his clients that he was on the registry, and that XXXXX would be required to provide a weekly itinerary to probation.
Knowing that this wasn’t in his probation orders, XXXXX filed a motion to clarify with the 6th Circuit Court, Citrus County, and had a hearing in December.
At the hearing, the Judge ordered probation to have no contact with XXXXX’s clients, and XXXXX now has a business in his own name.
Furthermore, a friend of XXXXX’s, who is also a business owner, and a registered citizen, was told by the same probation office that probation would also notify all of his clients of his registration status. XXXXX’s friend filed a motion to modify probation in Pasco County last week and the Judge agreed that probation was not allowed to contact clients.
XXXXX just wanted to get this information out there, as probation officers across the state are likely telling registered citizens across the state of this incorrect information, and thus, limiting their ability to own businesses.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and for fighting for those who can’t.
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Awesome post! Keep up the great work! 🙂
How can I get the case number?
Thank you and them! I have been considering a business of my own because I cant get a job anywhere else due to the registry. This type of fighting helps all of us. Thank you all!
I know that Flagler and Brevard probation offices also follow the same policy.
Went thru same problem judge told probation to follow my probation orders and do not vary from them without court order
Probation officers are the scum of the earth. News such as this are not a surprise to anyone who has had to bend over for one of these unstable individuals.
They are typically poorly educated individuals with lower than average intelligence. They also have low self-esteem due to those factors and attempt to raise it by abusing those unfortunate enough to be put under their oppressive control.
I don’t think that is a fair statement to apply to all probation officers. I had two that were helpful and understanding for the most part. We (rightfully ) argue that all sex offenders are not the same. It seems hypocritical to say all probation officers are terrible, all police are terrible, all politicians are terrible, or to make a blanket judgement about any group.
Agreed! Thanks for that reminder.
To BH and FAC,
The probation officer isn’t even the “last word” regarding violations. Their SUPERVISOR is. And the supervisors are ALWAYS assholes. Period.
My probation officer who violated me for working in a restaurant with a bar told me that she’s putting an ankle monitor on me so that I quit the job and never step foot in there again and she wouldn’t have to violate me.
2 weeks after she put the ankle monitor on me, she violated me. That was an obvious order to her from her supervisor.
The Supervisor is not the last word either. The Judge is.
FAC, the probation supervisor makes the final decision to violate. Being violated means getting arrested and being inconvenienced from your job and housing (imagine being put in lock up until a court date when your rent is due).
The supervisor has the final say in inconveniencing the life you’re trying to re-establish.
I’ll agree to this.
I agree also…My Federal PO has always been relatively fair. Has supported me through treatment and has never threatened me will jail. A good PO can act as a buffer between you and the community/Sherriffs registry. Matter of fact I would rather deal with my PO than the Sheriffs office any day . I do understand that the quality of POs can vary by location City , county,state or Federal…Believe me, I know…I was one (PO)for 10 years..
Federal PO’s tent to be pragmatic and apply common sense. The LAST thing they want is for an offender they supervise to get themselves re-arrested.
I also think this is an unfair statement, I had the same PO for 3 years, he was firm , but fair, I followed the courts guidelines, reported as required, etc. Never gave me a hard time, but also, made it clear if I messed up, he would have no problem violating me. ran into him a couple of years after released for paper, and has turned out to be one of the best friends i have ever had. we spend a lot of time together, he is one of the few people in my life that doesn’t judge me and is very proud to introduce me to his friends and work colleges as his friend. you can not judge all PO’s by a few, I’m surprised that anyone here would just jump to conclusions based on a job or title … isnt that what we are here for? to help each other and to educate the general public that jumping to conclusions based on a title that we are bad people ?
Not true at all. I had a bad one, but I also had a very good po. He was fair but from day one let me know he would violate meet if he had to.
Generalizing them all, is there same as the general public saying we are all monster who should all be killed because we will reoffend and never change.
Can’t demand respect and not give it
Agreed, MR SO TRUTH!…We could write novels on this and so Much More…!….
…Perhaps ‘They’ are Lower Than Whale Poop on the Bottom of the Sea!….
Anyways…I, too, am an independent contractor-1099er….I, too, was oppressed by a Female (Male Hate Monger) ‘Probation Officer’ and was also subjected to RUTHLESS harassment which included the loss of 2 Major ACCOUNTS because of her contacting them… .I thank the Person(s) above….This should assist in my Civil Suit against the BEEEECH…I will get her financially and donate all proceeds to Justice Based Causes for all of US!
REMINDER TO ALL ON PROBATION…ONLY THE JUDGE SETS THE PROBATION GUIDELINES AND ANY SPECIAL PROVISIONS AND MUST BE ORALLY COMMUNICATED AT TIME OF SENTENCING AND IT MUST BE IN THE WRITTEN RECORD..ONLY THE STATE LEGISLATURE CAN ISSUE NEW STATUTES OR CHANGES TO CURRENT STATUTORY LANGUAGE….THE PROBATION OFFICER CANNOT ENHANCE, EMBELLISH OR REQUIRE ANY NEW SCHEME, REQUIREMENT OR ‘LAW IN THEIR MIND’ AND ENFORCE IT UPON THE PROBATIONER….FACT! MOST DO AND GET AWAY WITH IT THRU THREATS AND OTHER ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR TO THE PROBATIONER!
KNOW YOUR RIGHTS…….BE KIND, TRUTHFUL, POLITE AND ASK FOR WRITTEN CLARIFICATION WHEN IN DOUBT WITH YOUR PROBATION OFFICER….
JUST DEAL WITH THESE IDIOTS AND PLAY THEIR GAME…CAUSE THEY CANT PLAY YOURS! IT IS A CHESS MATCH..PLAY WISELY…
REMEMBER, THERE IS PLENTY OF BED SPACE AT THE ‘INN OF THE FLADOC’ AND THEY ARE READY AND WILLING TO FILL IT….
THE TWO THINGS THAT ARE NOT SHUT DOWN ARE: PRISONS AND CASINOS…THINK ABOUT IT!..The Monies Keep Trickling in!
Sex Offender Truth….
In the State of Floria-DUH, ‘Probation Officers’ are Bureaucrats…They get a Bi-Weekly Paycheck in an Air-conditioned Office..They Get Full Benefits like Health Insurance etc…They are Quasi-Vested…Therefore, they just push an ink pen, push buttons on a computer etc…They become haters and squatters-They Simply Justify their existence by illegal technical violation of Probationers to NO AVAIL-they have monthly meetings to ‘weed out the less fortunate’
(REGISTRANTS)…….However, in smaller State Jurisdictions, Probation etc is contracted out to Correction-Like Consulting Companies, wherein, the Probation Officers are HUMANS-have a Heart and are God Fearing Peoples….
BTW…what happened to your website?…it is no longer?