A member in Volusia County recently received a call from his Sheriff’s office. After reading about the scams online, he called back and was told that they wanted him to come in and give another DNA sample. Has this happened to anyone else?
Another member wanted to tell other FAC members that he was successfully hired by Shipt.com, who is apparently hiring ex offender including those required to register.
Just so everyone is informed, I was recently offered employment by two different companies pending passing a background check. The requests to the search companies specifically requested criminal background checks going back 7 years in the case of IKEA and 10 years in the case of FIS (call center doing customer serve for AMEX and other credit card issuers) Both came back “no records found” But wait……you know the rest of the story. They found me on the registry. The company that was doing the search for IKEA even listed the offenses. So NOT REALLY 7 years, eh? I was given a chance to “explain” but we know what happened. Offers withdrawn. At least these clowns went though the actual process. i am convinced that most employers are doing “preliminary background checks” on the internet, etc. without informing the applicants. I was turned down by one of the discount airlines, Allegiant. They were doing a background check, but it was a very specific one required by the DHS that I would have passed because of the time lapsed and the nature of my offense. O f course, I didn’t get the job even though the managers said I had it. I am sure that Southwest did the same thing. I have had the same thing happen a couple of times with the rental car companies, Home Depot, etc. Get thorough multiple interviews and then crickets.
Another member in Putnam county reported the same call. He contacted his attorney who found no reason for them to respond. It was later determined that the call did not come from the Sheriff’s office.
I received the call from the sheriff requesting me to voluntarily submit DNA sample. Verified the calling number nby calling back the main ops center number. I am concerned that my DNA will show up at a crime scene since they already collected DNA from me when sentenced.
To help alleviate speculation on whether was a scam, this is the name and number of the officer within the Volusia county career crimes unit.
SGT TURNER
386 248 1788
Came across this website today:
https://secondchancejobsforfelons.com/
Seems legit. You can filter jobs by location, time you’ve been out, education, offense, number of offenses, etc. Think I’ll give it a try.
Through an affiliated organization we are developing hireanexfelon.com. It’s a long way from being completed, but it’s in development as a tool to help people find employment.
Sounds promising!
I would say this person hired by Shipt was extremely lucky. According to their website, they do background checks through Checkr:
https://help.shipt.com/255300-what-are-the-details-regarding-shipt-s-background-check
Checkr screens for “sex offenders”:
https://checkr.com/resources/faq/
According to Glassdoor, one of the Shipt interview question is “Can you pass a background check?”
https://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Can-you-pass-a-background-check-QTN_2176107.htm
Also, Shipt is now owned by Target. Just by reading this, you know they will not hire “sex offenders”:
https://corporate.target.com/press/releases/2018/04/target-statement-on-legal-settlement-about-the-use
Also, when asked directly:
https://successfulrelease.com/does-target-hire-felons/
Also, Shipt is now owned by Target. Just by reading this, you know they will not hire “sex offenders”
Yup, Target headquarters turned me down a while back after I applied and got hired by one of their stores. The store wanted me to work there. Heck, they even already had put me on the schedule to start training. The hiring manager liked me and we both graduated from the same high school (different years though)… But oh well, their lost.
So, what’s the answer, FAC? May LE require a registrant to submit a DNA sample? What is the recommended protocol with respect to compliance?
All I am aware of is that those on Federal probation, per SORNA, typically must submit to a warrantless search of his person by any law enforcement officer with reasonable suspicion, but not sure whether that covers DNA (and being registered is not, in itself, reasonable suspicion, to my knowledge).
If you have been in prison as part of your conviction, before you are released they will have taken a DNA sample already. This practice applies to everyone who is released from the Florida prisons.
For those who have advised doing prison time but are still on probation, the probation office will give you directions on who to contact regarding a DNA sample as part of your probation will require you to supply one to the FDLE.
For those of you who have already supplied a sample previously? Know that a call like this is most likely a scam.
I’ve come across no such information stating that you will ever be required to give multiple samples.
If anyone has additional concerns they should consult an attorney. The PROBATION Statute says: (i) A requirement that the probationer or community controllee must submit a specimen of blood or other approved biological specimen to the Department of Law Enforcement to be registered with the DNA data bank.
That applies to people on probation. People who are not under state probation or whose offenses pre-dated that requirement are no longer subject to that statute, but are subject to the registration requirements.
I am dissappointed that my post for what I consider a serious issue got lumped together with a post about someone looking for a job. The vaildity of the Volusia Florida Sheriff ad hoc request for a volunteer DNA sample should be an important for ANYONE on the register. So far I see lots of conjecture as to whether its a scam, or “dont worry about it” or ppl citing what the normal procedures are. I know the normal procedures of collectingf DNA at sentencing or incarceration.
I have read the Florida statue on what is SOP and when the Sheriff can gather DMA examples. Floria statute 943.325 if NYONE CARES TO READ IT.
Thanks
NO Bob, They can gather DNA when arrested. You were arrested before the law and are not on probation. If you are arrested again you will be required to give DNA, until then it is VOLUNTARY. If they tell you you will be arrested if you don’t come in to give DNA, call your lawyer.
NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE. RED ALARMS GOING OFF BIG TIME.
WHY WOULD HE OR SHE NEED ANOTHER DNA SAMPLE TAKEN? I WOULD HAVE DEMANDED EVERYTHING IN WRITING. EXTRA SAMPLES CAN BE USED FOR A CRIMINAL SETUP. I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE!!!!!!!
My concern is exactly that, with another sample of my DNA floating around at their disposal, it could be planted at a crime scene to propagate a crime that I was not involved in but could be associated with.
I am a registered offender in Volusia County. I am NOT on probation so probation rules do not apply.
Shipt sounds awesome.
As for the sheriff’s department, I would have an attorney make a call to find out why.
When i most recently re-registered in Nassau county i was asked to sign a form giving them permission to take a dna swab. They told me it was optional so i declined. They already have my dna when i went to prison.
I am Worried,
I did some searches, one comment said that the sheriff may ask for a DNA sample if hey intend to file charges. Another said to NOT volunteer to give a DNA sample as a court order is required to get one if you are not under arrest.
I feel sick !
If he has given a DNA sample already, they should not be needing another one. Did he call the “real” Sheriff’s office to verify this? Or did he “call back” the person he thought was representing the Sheriff’s office initially? Part of a recent scam of my husband was saying that he had failed to report for a DNA sample the previous month.
The real sheriff’s OP center was called, verified phone number.
The number called is this 386 248 1788, the career criminal unit.
JoAnne,
Thanks for your comments, yes, the Phone number was verified as a sheriff unit within Volusia county Florida. I can find no statute that says that registerd persons in Florida are required to Voluntarily give DNA samples whenever the Sheriff asks for it.
The Florida Statute for DNA collection and disposition is Statute 943.325. I didnt see enything that spcifically related to Volunterring to a DNA submission.
Thank you for that information. I was just turned down for a remote customer service position working from home solely based on my being on the registry. So I will check into Shipt.com
It’s truly a sad day when someone is turned down for a job working from their own home.
I did have a question that maybe someone can answer. I have been trying to get a receipt for my husband’s sessions with his therapist. The head person there sent something that was for 2 hour sessions when he only goes for one hour. Our insurance denied it and yet they will pay partially for a one hour session. I have been waiting over a month to receive a new statement with the correct information. Do these SO therapists who are approved by the states get some type of additional money or grants beyond what a client pays? I see no reason for her sending the wrong info otherwise. In the past the information that was sent by her was mostly correct. She isn’t billing my husband extra, but she also knew he didn’t go for 2 hour sessions and now seems to be stalling.
Sounds to me like someone who, like many individual practitioners, finds the medical billing and receipt-generating process to be confounding and something to be dreaded, while they are busy with many other things on their plate and have difficulty managing their time.
Im not reading much more into it than that, though.
I’m surprised the insurance will pay at all, I doubt they see court mandated psychotherapy as a medical necessity or even a proper mental health services. Am I correct in assuming they will potentially reimburse you, not that the treatment provider will bill them directly?
I’d defer to Hanlons Razor, “Never attribute to malice that which may be adequately explained by stupidity,” and say the treatment provider has no idea what to do.
Treatment providers are funded by their clients, that’s the whole sell that the state doesn’t have to pay, not with subsidies or grants.
If the treatment provider during intake (or otherwise) has made a medical diagnosis requiring treatment, then it may well be reimbursable. The challenge may be getting the treatment provider to properly generate the sort of documentation that the client would need in order to file a proper claim, since they’re so accustomed instead to being reimbursed by the clients or by the state.
Or finding one that can actually make a medical diagnosis, a MS in Social Work does not make a clinician.
What you want to worry about is WHAT they are diagnosing you with. The media likes to mix up pedophile and sex offender all the time, but pedophilia is a bonafide disorder. I suppose if someone IS a pedophile then a diagnosis and treatment would be important, but if your treatment provider says you’re being treated for pedophilia whether you are or are not one you can kiss any deregistration or residency lawsuit, or any relief goodbye. “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the plaintiff is uncontrollably attracted to children and needs medical intervention to try and control this base impulse…”
Battleship sunk.
Thank you to all who responded. I do agree that it is most likely incompetence. I sent one more e-mail and finally got a reply. I was told they were hiring an office manager. I would have to say it’s about time. Our insurance does cover individual counseling sessions for 1 hour or less. When she changed it to 2 hours, they would not cover it and the claim was denied. This has all been so costly as you all know, that even partial reimbursement is helpful. We have successfully turned in claims prior to this error on her part, so hopefully the new office manager will get things organized.