South Florida’ ABC affiliate Local10 visited the latest sex offender encampment in Miami-Dade.
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The linked source article looks to be different from the original one that I read. Also, there are no comments. WTF?
I still don’t see a lot of people commenting on the original article. It looks like not many people care.
I really think the ultimate answer to ending the Registries is constant, overwhelming negative feedback and actions against the Registries. Make people sick of hearing about it.
It is always good to see you out there commenting, Will Allen. You usually have to go through social media and some of our members do not want to have to deal with social media because of all the flack they have to go through. Yes, it would help our cause if more people did comment, but the sites always stress the importance of keeping our “cool” and respecting the views of others, no matter how incorrect they are.
There is no reason for people to remain “cool” when they are being attacked by harassing terrorists. That is what the Registries are. We shouldn’t be talking to people who support it as if they are moral or sane. Remaining “cool” has gotten us here.
Having said that, different people need to see information in different ways. I will have respectful conversations with respectful people. But I’m not going to respect anyone who thinks it is their business what my family does in life. So that pretty much eliminates all big government Registry Nazis. Anyone who harasses me is getting harassed.
I am listening, Will Allen. Please continue with your posting of comments.
By the way, Will Allen, my comments about keeping cool and respecting the views of others was not intended for you. I have stated before at this site that I always like it when I see your comments at news sites. It is other people, none of whom I recognize from our FAC site, who do us more harm than good with every other word being an explicative and absolutely no content.
I did share the rules often listed at these sites but would not want to change anything about the way you comment. Keep up the good work. You are an asset to our cause. Thank you for what you do.
Ron Book is doing nothing to help the registered citizens HE rendered homeless in Miami-Dade. His hypocrisy is astounding. His website hasn’t even been updated since June. The term “sexual offender” comes up with no hits on his site, only links to law enforcement:
http://www.homelesstrust.org/home.asp
His plan to “end” homeless doesn’t even include registered citizens at all. “Sex offenders” not even mentioned:
http://www.homelesstrust.org/library/homeless-plan.pdf
How this travesty of allowing a conflicted ¢o¢k$u¢ker like Book to head this commission is beyond belief. Deep-state corruption is the only rational explanation.
Okay, so “colonies” seem to be an unpopular idea. Any thoughts on the second proposal (funding an in-depth study of what other state to move to) ? I really don’t see Floriduh getting any better in my lifetime.
Shawn Rolfe did a survey of registration laws in all 50 states. It might be a bit dated but it’s still useful. There are a few states, particularly in the northeast and northwest that are better than others. There are also states that have won challenges.
There are too many variables to consider. For example, tier 1s are not publicly listed in some states. That would be a huge benefit to tier1s but not all. Others travel and reporting for travel would impact them more than others
NARSOL State Wiki is good, too.
Best state varies by person. Depends, for example, how severe was your crime, how long have you been out, do you remain listed in any other state, how long have you been crime-free in the community, what is your risk profile now, and are you raising children. Different states treat these differently, or not at all.
FAC gives good example of how some states don’t publicly list people who are Tier 1. I’m not sure whether NJ lists Tier 1s, for example, but NJ also has produced horror stories associated with civil commitment (more of a risk for Tier III). And who is placed in Tier I varies by state— it may be offense-based or risk-based or mysterious-invisible-committee-based (as in Georgia).
But FAC makes a good point that the states that seem to handle this the most reasonably overall seem to be in the NE and PNW. And notice that those so-called easy states do NOT experience higher rates of sexual abuse than, say, the most medieval, vindictive states (Alabama).
A few years from now, if our ex post facto plus challenge ultimately results in a proper outcome, then the most reasonable state, the one which reformed former offenders need not fear, will be: Florida. I have to cheer for the home team, here.
Thanks to FAC, Jacob, Sentinel.
I found this May, 2019 estimate of one bedroom apartment rental fees for Miami on google:
“To live in an average Miami one-bedroom apartment requires $2,000 per month for rent. Living alone, you are responsible for utilities, which should average $150 on your own. Food costs can be feasibly kept to $400 per month, though that amount allows for very few meals out.”
If that estimate is correct I can imagine that Mayor Carlos A. Giménez would be too busy to bother sitting down and talking to anyone, it must be an extremely difficult task to find homes for jobless, homeless, people that can afford that kind of cost of living expense right off the street. Either he is working 24 hours a day to help these people or working 24 hours a day to hide the fact he is doing nothing about it, I strongly believe the latter.
I been on this registry since the day it started in Florida. I was 18 when my offence allegedly took place. I’m now 46. One thing I can tell you is the state dont give shit about you or me in any way shape or form. If you dont cover you own ass you will end up back in prison. So cry and whine and complain on here all you want. But at the end of the day. Until you can find a way off this shit show. You better walk the line. Because I can tell you from expiermece. They dont care about you or your kids. I hate to sound so negative. But that’s just how things are at this moment. I have been very successful in life even in the registry. But you have to be vigilant in your life and watch what you do to make it.
I totally understand and agree. Look I feel some sort of way about things because it’s not right. I’m not the type to throw a pity party, or a fit and complain about things aren’t fair. I understand the reality of life as much as the next guy. As I was so kindly reminded of today. I renewed my registration on my vehicle and was given a new plate as the old one is ten years old. So I get home, and call to let the sheriff’s office know, they can see it in their system. The detective told me that I had to go down, and if they continued doing operations like they have been if they come here and it’s not updated I’ll go to jail. Nothing like a cold hard reality slap in the face. I would go to jail over a licensed plate. So what’s the alternative? Run to another state with a new set of rules? Hide and hope it gets better? Quietly support and fight with groups like this one? Or just give up? Seriously, I have considered all of them. But I think it’s all up to the individual on how you deal with this.
I agree with both of you.
Personally, I’m very successful and have a great life. But none of that changes the fact that Registries aren’t acceptable. I’m not going to have a pity party at all though, I’m far, far too angry for that. But that doesn’t mean that I can’t complain as much as I want. In fact, I feel that the Registries have given me carte blanche to complain as much as I want about anything that I want. All day, every day. I can yell at people all day long and that is just going to be too bad for them.
I’ve been listed on the hit list for over 2 decades. I’ve considered “all the options” much as you’ve stated. One thing I decided long, long ago was that I’m not going to be nice any longer. I’m not going to treat the Registries as if they are legitimate. I’m not going to treat anyone who supports them as if they are legitimate. And I’m certainly not going to worry about being nice or polite to them. They don’t deserve it and they don’t deserve my respect.
So how I’m going to continue to deal with it is to ensure that at least with respect to myself, the Registries are much, much worse than just worthless. I have easily guaranteed that and will continue. I’m also going to work to ensure that Registries exist only at the highest possible cost of time, money, effort, peace of mind, trust, credibility, and other resources. I intend to ensure Registries really, really cost and do as much damage as possible. As far as I’m concerned, Registries should harm the people who support them as much as possible.
Aside from the “sex offender shuffle” itself, what sickens me more are the attacks on Gigi who tries to present a rational argument in the comments. I am thoroughly convinced registered citizens will never have peace (especially in Floriduh) unless we set up our own communities and live away from the ignorant masses.
That’s what we should be funding. That or an in-depth study of what other state to move to to have a better life. I’m sick of all this bull$hit in Floriduh.
A colony is a horrible idea. That’s what we are fighting against.
Absolutely not. No way is a separate community an acceptable idea. Sure, you have closed military bases. Easy enough to just move us all there right? Wrong. I did my time handed down by the judge. Prison and probation. Now I’m a home owner, entrepreneur, husband, step dad, and Dad. Along with disabled veteran. I’ve done everything to live a respectable life. In the almost ten years I’ve gone from nothing stepping out of prison to now all that and a college graduate. I just want to live my life. I have gone above and beyond to earn that.
If there needs to be “colonies” for people convicted of sex offenses, then there needs to be colonies of ALL crimes. How about a gang colony? Imagine the Cryps and Bloods and Latin Kings being displaced like this? Ha! Imagine that!
We need colonies for the scumbags who think Registries are acceptable. I’m doing a good job at lowering the quality of their lives.
You should comment at the article. Help Gigi out.
We all need to get ugly. Being nice and polite isn’t working. It’s time. I think every time a news article accepts comments, it should be overwhelmed with anti-Registry comments. People need to learn they can’t harass in peace.
Have to agree with “Not Steve” and to a point with “JZ” in that our community can only depend on us. While a physical community is not desirable, thinks Jews and Japanese during WW2, we do need to develope and strengthen our “virtual community” in order to improve our lives and our families lives. Areas such as housing, employment, and physical safety need to become a priority and those within our community who are able to contribute to those areas should consider doing so. I have spoke on the issue of self reliance before and it is reassuring that others on this forum think likewise. People no one cares about our issues until it affects them so understand that and stop waiting around to be rescued it’s not going to happen. Get involved not just with FAC but with each other and contribute what you can, we have no one else.
Miami: Corrupt and counterproductive as usual
The state of Florida created this problem in the first place. Ron Book and his cronies did this on purpose to make Registrants lives miserable.
Hey Book these policies won’t make up for the fact that you were the one responsible for hiring the wrong nanny for your daughter and too drunk ass to notice when she was abused.
So put down the bottle, stop taking it out on others for your pain, and lobby something beneficial for society, like stop the homeless problem you created.