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http://wmmbam.iheart.com/media/play/27540095/
EXCELLENT points made by the caller!
Ex Post Facto – Sustainer 2024
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I found it. $547M every year for sex offender registration. Because of the laws being more restrictive and more people getting on the “list,” I fear that this will balloon closer to $1B easily..for a system that doesn’t work? That sounds like our failed war on drugs.
Gene – from where do you get these stats?
Why don’t they tell the truth? Let us all know how much the Federal Government gets from all of us taxpayers for the registration requirements? So far, I saw something about $3,000,000 per state as a grant. What is the Federal Government getting in order to pay out that much per state? It’s not about protecting ANYONE! It’s protecting their bankroll. The entire criminal justice system is set up this way. Criminals make the government money because we will always pay. I’m tired of paying for systems that don’t work. The more restrictions means more incarcerated. The more incarcerated, the more money. WE HAVE TO WAKE UP!
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, if we keep defending the guy who raped a 7 year old we will continue to be ignored. THAT’s what they’re so freakin scared of! I would have said, “….a 7 year old? Listen if you think you’re protecting children by putting someone who rapes 7 year olds on a LIST instead of keeping them in prison for life, you are seriously not thinking straight.” “We have the death penalty and life in prison for people who are truly dangerous, the registry is nothing but a politically charged, feel good thing that is actually doing a lot of damage to a lot of good people, especially children.
I agree
Actually I very rarely hear anyone defend anyone’s crime – what I hear is push back against the draconian laws –
I have to agree.. We are all in this together. There is NO defense for harming someone, BUT we don’t have to put up with laws that discriminate against one group of people. By letting it happen, we open up the doorway for future politician’s to do the same or worse to the next group of people they choose to hate.
I agree with the comments but the problem is these local ordinances are not considered ex post facto laws at the present time (some judges across the country are starting to see the light) but until they move it out of the civil arena it is not really considered ex post facto. Another problem in FL is that we have several RSO laws that have the ex post facto issue built right into the law (in other words they say “If convicted after …) However, country registering entities apply those laws to everyone even when there is no local ordinance. In some ways I understand – could you imagine having to compile a list of all the registrants and decide which laws apply to which ones? Not gonna happen…- too much work for them. It is a lot easier to apply the one size fits all and be done with it..
Karen, you have to consider the fact that if these local laws are not complied with, they will make the RSO vulnerable to jail time. if you get locked up (or could be if you don’t comply, that’s punishment.
I worry about getting locked almost everything I do because of these laws, and I’m not even doing anything wrong…. They’re amazing!
It’s unreasonable to be at risk for things that are perfectly lawful for everyone else in the State, but arbitrarily declared to be unlawful for registrants without any notice.
Oh I 100% agree with all of you.
Kudos to the caller and true Fine was caught off guard – but he still painted with the broad brush… they are all uninformed chicken S—-. He lost me with the most important job of the government is to protect the children – no, the most important job of the government is to serve the citizens – period.. Kudos to the caller! Good job!
I felt like he gave his best answer…it was an out of the blue call and he probably wasn’t prepared for the question.Most people aren’t. I did hear the bit of bias at the end but I think that was out of not knowing this problem(The Registry) for what it is. I felt he was nice to the caller. Hopefully this phone call opened his eyes to this terrible situation us registrants face for our entire lifetime in FL…. Kudos Jason.
Can someone tell me how to listen to the audio.
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I agree that teller made some excellent points, and Randy Fine only gave some half baked answers. Ex-Post facto laws are illegal no matter how you cut it, and these “civil previsions’ they enacted are still punishment to the S.O.. community. I know someone who completed his time form prison and probation in 1982, when these “civil previsions” were enacted, they found him and he still has to register 4 times a year. Same with me, I completed my prison sentence in 1994 and was 1 month away from completing my probation in 1995 when they gave me a “technical violation” with no new charges and went back to prison for 2 more yrs. No one else,who has been in prison has any Ex-post facto restriction on them, so why should we?
You’ll notice that the POLITICIAN says that he disagrees with his counterpart on the “Left” that once you have completed your time, you have repaid your debt to society. This REPUBLICAN is saying that even though the law states “NO EX POST FACTO LAW SHALL BE PASSED”, he believes that it’s ok for the punishment to continue. A lawmaker does not have the RIGHT to interpret the law as he/she sees fit. One again our U.S. and Florida Constitution says that “NO EX POST FACTO LAW SHALL BE PASSED”…..period!!!
As you listen to his conversation, you will note that he is putting a lot of his personal bias into his decision making…..”:error on the side of children”….By saying this, it shows that he is not even willing to look at the scientific evidence that is currently available to all lawmakers prior to implement a new bill against Registered Citizens. Politicians like this MUST be voted out of office.
Lastly, the commentator made mention of using a board to deduce who should stay on the registry or who could go. I say NO, NO,NO…. you don’t use a board to decide, you use the law. Once you are done with court ordered punishment, you are done. “No Ex Post Facto Law Shall Be passed………a board does not get to decide! It’s the law. To borrow a phrase from a popular vintage movie…”Let my people go!!!!!!!!! “