Oct 8, 2019 | 36 comments
Person’s on the North Carolina registry are speaking out against a law that bans registrants from attending the North Carolina State Fair.
NARSOL and NCRSOL’s Robin Vanderwall spoke out against the ban. His organization is also involved in a legal challenge to the NC registration laws.
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I would suggest all NC registrants get their friends and family members to boycott the fair. May not matter this year, but eventually, the fair will have no one to attend it.
Is NCRSOL actually trying to do anything about the law or did they just send out a media statement?
Speaking out is doing something.
I agree completely. If 1 million people spoke out, that could be the most important, effective thing that is done to fight the Registries cancer.
I do try not to be critical and yes I’m grateful for any person or group willing to advocate for us, but I also have wondered about the effectiveness of the national group. From out here it seems they do a lot of proclaiming and talking to themselves and not very open to suggestions on how to improve or a willingness to give up the reigns, giving fresh leadership a try. There are many more of us than there were 10 years ago. Some who are very educated and with it leaders.
Excellent!!!! We are always asking for people to step up and volunteer for active roles in FAC. We will look for you to step up soon!
I too have sat on the sidelines watching, waiting, wondering whether to invest both emotional and financial capital. Just recently I contributed to the FAC community both financially, paying the annual membership fee and mentally-emotionally posting my absolute outrage of the actions of a high-profile advocate for the reform of sex offender laws. His actions, I believe, reflect poorly upon the movement to reform sex offender laws. We as a community shouldn’t be trying to minimize or place blame somewhere else, rather there should be nothing less than full throated condemnation of his actions.
So, the question is are we more interested in the agenda of reforming and promoting the advancement of “RATIONAL SEX OFFENDER LAWS”, then finding the truth? What do we mean by Rational Sex Offender laws? Will we recognize that there are some bad characters that do require the publics notification? That some recidivate may require additional detention upon release? If so, then maybe we can find common ground with are adversaries. To have a legislative win, we must.
Here’s my truth. I’m here on this blog because I was charged with, plead guilty to, was convicted of and punished for committing a sexual battery on a minor under 12. I spent about 45 days in the County jail and 10 years on paper. I was not caught by my spouse or reported by my victim I sought help through a counselor. It was my voice on the recording of the abuse hot line.
At my sentencing the judge directed I recite each of the special conditions of my probation. Upon finishing he asked do you understand each one of those conditions. Yes, I answered. He went on, this court condemns your actions but also commends you for seeking help. It is this reason and only this reason the court accepts this plea and conditions of probation. Do not come before my court for a violation of any of these special conditions, I will surely revoke it and sentence you to 35 years. Do we understand each other? That was 25 years ago, I never violated, whether civil or penal.
I tried to voice my opinion about Mr. Baughman and the potential consequences of his actions on the reform movement. My posts where denied. High profile public advocates as well as the associations and associates that sponsor and support them, must all be beyond reproach.
As an associate, I cannot support, defend nor deny the actions of a 34-year-old man on sex offender probation texting a 16-year-old. ITS WRONG. As an associate, I can not support, defend nor deny the negative public reaction of a high profile advocate for the reform of sex offender laws, calling the victim of horrific sexual abuse a F—ing C—t, simply because she advocates for brutally harsh sex offender laws. One only needs the ability to emphasize to understand her
position.
Frankly, listening to her call SOs, monsters wasn’t as painful as hearing a daughter say in a hushed and whispered tone “Daddy was the Monster” See, That’s their truth.
So, if I choose to become active, to use my story and advocate reform, to present before legislative bodies whether at local or State levels, to interview with journalists, I know full well I’ll have to answer for the reprehensible behavior of others. I can only hope my actions, words and history speak louder than theirs.
Perhaps my daughter and i will become the counter balance. Maybe will march to Tally… It will be her choice.
Yes! Yes! If FAC could get these people on board actively working as volunteers for our cause, there could be no limit to what could be accomplished in the state of Florida. What I do not see are the “masses” out their supporting our cause, yet we have a massive amount of people — 28,000. Drop the 10% who plan on re-offending and we still have 25,200 people. We need you and others like you. I started off very small and very confused, but slowly over time I saw that possibly I could help a team of people, just like you, plant a small seed that could one day sprout into a game changer. We need people who can think outside the box, are risk takers, are driven with a purpose in sight, brain stormers, and always looking for improvements. Forget about what the national organization is doing. With the right people, FAC is capable of accomplishing much and becoming the best practices model for the other 49 states to follow. Please help us and enlist others like yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVvY1mOgow. I swear this blond chick needs to get educated on sex offenders.
There are radicals on both sides. Offenders who call for us to crash the court houses and citizens who call for our death. Then there are reasonable people ob both side who want to work to make the laws more fair for both sides. The reasonable folks are the ones who will get something done. The radicals stir things up and get people scared. Those are the ones that get offenders beaten up because they go and post peoples addresses on facebook , next door etc and they do not care if your kid gets beat up on the way to school for living in the same house as a sex offender.
When my grandkids came to visit, they did not understand why I wouldn’t let them play with the neighborhood kids. Sadly one place I lived there was a lady ( I call her that loosely ) who made it her mission to make my life miserable. The blonde reporter in this story ( The 2nd lady they showed ) reminds me of her. “Kill them all” is their motto and they would spit on your dying body and laugh.
Finally watched this. The news guy actually seems to have a brain. Not so much the other knee-jerk, feel-good “news” people.
You said, “make the laws more fair”. The laws shouldn’t exist. That is the ONLY thing that is acceptable. Unless that happens, I’m absolutely going to continue to make people pay for them. As I have for literally decades now. They have caused a very high level of harm to society overall. Meh, I guess.
The male anchor seems to get it, but the blond is absolutely clueless. She just lowered the credibility of news journalists. I was out of town all day, it is late and I am tired, but I could not let this one go. I have responded in their comment section. We sure need some other people to do so who can. It is okay if you do not have any data off the top of your head that you can use — simply state that she has no idea what she is talking about, and that people are not going to watch local stations that put out such inaccurate information. There is power in numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG4Ou3aa244. Everybody please listen from the 2 minute and 50 second mark. I already brought this to facs attention.
Wow just plain absolute hate and disgust for all people on the registry. Making a broad statement giving up on offenders as not being able to be treated with therapy and counseling with ZERO knowledge of what you are talking about is plain sick.
I do understand people have a fear and I myself have been a victim of crime ( my house being broken into ). They never caught the people ( I know who did it but cant prove it ). They were meth heads and I have long since forgiven them and if they caught them today , 6 years later, I would probably not even press charges. It is in the past and I have moved on, hoping they have changed their lives for the better. I guess sometimes you have to be down yourself to see what others are going through. Those on that sound stage in the video were entitled people with their heads in the clouds.
Unfortunately, I see things like that on the news all time. For example someone is merely accused of something yet the news says ” A child rapist was caught today”. Well there went that persons chance of a fair trial as they were already convicted in the news. They even did that with some of the people in this sting where it was cops posing as 14 year olds. The news were calling them all child molesters.
This video is even worse than the first one. These people are spouting out false information with the station making it appear that they know what they are talking about. I have responded in the comment section here as well and hope some of you will, too. WCNC of Charlotte, NC has taken pure ignorance and turned it into propaganda minus any truth. I am wondering if their parent company, NBC of New York City, knows what nonsense they are putting out. Would it do any good for me to contact them, too?
we gotta put more money in the ex post facto fund. Cmon guys if a person has money for state fairs,Disney land and all these oversea trips I read on this threads. This fund and Out of state challege fund should be slapped fill with donations.
I not judging anyone for how they spend their money but pleading with each of you.Instead of this trip or that place of travel please think about these words: Unless we help one another with funds for this cases there won’t be any of us left to stand and fight! Some of us can’t put food on our tables muchless go on a trip!!
I just did. It’s very small – I’m disabled. But worth it.
Yes< BeefStew, we must all stop thinking (and spending on) Luxuries.
We must fund fund fund…UNTIL IT HURTS!!!!!
FREEDOM IS AT STAKE…The FREEDOM OF AMERICA!!!!
When we deny the constitution to a few, we deny the constitution to ALL!!!!
MAARRCCHH!!!! MAARRCCHH!!! MAARRCCHH!!! On the North Carolina State Fair!
Let them use batons, tear gas, (and their usual intimidation)…
NOW must stop the Bully Boys!
NOW must stop the modern APARTHEID (discrimination, jim crow, segregation, separatism. prejudice)
MARCH, damn ya!!!! MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure about JJJJ’s message, and nobody has to stop spending on whatever they want. It’s just that we have a TON of people contact us every day with travel, housing or other issues, asking for help or guidance and suggesting “you should challenge…”. We have access to our database and know if these people even pay their $5/month member dues and it’s amazing how many don’t!
One way to ensure the sheriff’s popular support and re-election would be for registered sex offenders to storm the NC state fair.
That would be a great opportunity for them to score more arrests and hold a press conference about how they acted swiftly to protect families attending the fair.
FAC normally counsels AGAINST registrants engaging in civil disobedience, and in most cases I would have to agree.
Although I agree with you, some of us cannot find a job due to our registry hit. I have not worked since 2014. I was told I do not qualify for any food stamps or public assistance because I have a 401k, a house and other assets I could sell ? Really. I use the internet at the library because it is free. I would love to donate even a one time amount but I have to let my elderly parents pay my Yearly tax bill so I wont lose my home. I mow a few neighbors yards to pay for groceries ( I have a few decent neighbors ) If I was still working I would shower FAC but funds as I believe you are doing an amazing job but I have over $12,000 in outstanding medical bills that have ruined my credit and now they refuse to treat me other than life threatening emergencies. Luckily my heart medicine is only $5 for a 90 day supply.
So maybe some are being cheapskates but some of us truly love what you do, but just are unable to give. I have even stopped going to church because feel bad when they pass the plate and I do not drop anything in, feel I am being stared at.
I keep hoping my situation will get better but I cannot rely on my parents since they are in their 80s.We have even stopped having Christmas get togethers with extended family because they all expect a fancy gift.
This is why I said if they pass the “Pay to register” act, I am done for. This is how so many on probation fail and I am not even on probation. Can’t get a job, get violated, can’t pay, violated. They keep letting murderers out so they can make more room for Registered folks.
Again I apologize and admit I am one who has not been able to donate. I was actually better off financially while I was on probation as my probation officer had a list of places that hired registered folks. But she doesn’t exist anymore as she was fired for not checking on her offenders often enough and faking logs due to being overworked and understaffed. if it were not for her, I would never have made it through probation.
If you have a qualifying disability you may be eligible for SSDI. SSDI doesn’t factor in net worth as SSI.
Just a thought.
Yes thank you, have been on an appeal for the last year now. Supposed to have another hearing in April of 2020. I started off going it alone but after 2 denials, decided to hire an attorney. You do not pay unless you win ( Other than any paperwork and files they have to request ). Also since filing I have had two heart attacks so that may help with my case.
“if we don’t hang together, we will surely hang separately”. “When Injustice becomes law, violence is responsible”.
Next we will be banned from all public places like grocery stores, malls, etc. Before you laugh at my comment, they take baby steps and each thing they get away with, the ease one more thing in. And they know if we sue, it takes years in the courts unless the first judge that hears it makes a ruling which is then immediately appealed by the state.
I’m sure all these rules and bans will come back to haunt all that make them happen. Either directly or indirectly! These so called “rules” that these so called elected officials that keep adding this “PUNISHMENT” and violating our Human Rights. The only two people that are not physically here”God” himself and “Jesus Christ”, that keeps challenging these “rules” directly through some important people that are physically here, and we know who that is. But only the believers which all of us are by now will prevail sooner or later!!. “AMEN”
More punishments added to us!
We’re banned from the Central Florida Fairgrounds here in Orlando.
Could you please tell me under what FSS statute or local ordinance that registered citizens are not allowed to be on central fl fairgrounds?
WHL That’s news to me. During probation sure but was totally unaware of any all ban from The Central Florida Fair.
My name is James. I’m in central Florida also. I’m new here and also tired of these silly laws and restrictions. I have no restrictions and Im also still suffering because of the stuff they keep adding on us I’ve been going on 11 yrs with no violations and it matters not. I understand a lot claim not to b guilty but I’m truly innocent lol. I’m so sick of the pressures it’s getting to me. Tho if I act out or do something crazy they see it as me being an so not that maybe what I might 9f done is a result of all the pressures they put on us yearly.
I hear you. Truly no person who is actually serious about public safety or protecting children thinks that Registries are intelligent. Smart, informed people are not the people who support Registries. None of them think it is a good idea to take a person who THEY claim is unstable and dangerous, back that person into an ever-shrinking corner, and continually poke that person with sticks. NO ONE with a brain thinks that is a good idea. But Registry Nazis/Supporters do.
And it is okay to “act out” as long as it does not involve $EX. Because $EX is the only thing that matters. These criminal regimes can’t even be bothered to Register people who only commit violent crimes, like those that end up putting people in wheelchairs for life. So just don’t “act out” regarding $EX, everything else is fine.
Yes and there was a story on the local news recently from Disney stating they are revoking annual passes when they discover the person is a registered sex offender. I was going to renew mine until I saw that. They did not state if those affected would get refunds.
No they will not get a refund.
they have refunded.
They use an outside company to check pass holders against the registries. When trying to enter the park with my family,
I was trespassed from all Disney properties. I was not notified in advance, and there was no publicly disclosed policy at the time regarding registered individuals. This was about 5 years ago.