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https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/09/florida-man-subject-to-lifetime-sex-offender-registration-requirements-argues-that-he-is-in-custody-for-purposes-of-federal-post-conviction-laws/
Not only is the article from the Supreme Court blog, they actually did along article about the case. maybe this case they think about hearing?
this case has been brought back to my attention https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/clements-v-florida/ I Supreme Court, gave them an extension until October 23 to file. Fingers crossed
any thoughts on it?
I really wished he raised the residency restriction argument, but apparently our side wrote 25 page paper to the supreme court 11th circuit had no comment and as you see on the link it went before a conference and now the Supreme Court wants to hear from the 11th. So apparently the Supreme Court is at least curious of the details. He filed federal so I believe a ruling here will effect everyone. I truly believe we are in custody if there is no end to this. And the Alaskan case we were free to live and work where we wanted now it’s almost to the point of just listing the things we can do. I believe Ketanji Brown Jackson will want to hear the case and chief justice, as far as internal politics of the Supreme Court I have no idea how they will gain from hearing this case but I do know they need to hear this case. Roberts will have to excuse himself, since he was original prosecutor I believe.
Maybe FAC will write a Amici in support of the hearing since the Supreme Court could potentially hear this case effecting everybody on lifetime registry.
On ACSOL site under this month general comments there a good summary someone wrote regarding this case.
Apparently the search engine for this website does not work very well. I searched for “Clements” and not a single result came up. Has FAC been blindsided by this case?
For those interested, here is FAC’s previous reporting on this case:
https://floridaactioncommittee.org/lifetime-registration-for-florida-sex-offenders-isnt-custody/
I don’t know if you saw the article but out of all the petitions highlighted this week the choose to highlight this one https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/09/florida-man-subject-to-lifetime-sex-offender-registration-requirements-argues-that-he-is-in-custody-for-purposes-of-federal-post-conviction-laws/ maybe they view it has having weight we just need 4 of them to agree to hear it. They could of denied it at the conference where 7,000 plus decisions get denied yearly for the supreme court doesn’t wanna hear them that’s why Florida didn’t file a response it thought it would get denied like the 1,000s before it but apparently this case seems to caught at least one Judges attention otherwise it would of been thrown in the recycle bin when the scores of ones before it. So States deadline is Monday October 23rd and I believe the Supreme Court has 14 or so days to decide if they want to hear it so we should know by Thanksgiving if they will hear this case. This could be huge! here is a podcast that talks about it 277. The guy Larry is always pessimistic https://www.registrymatters.co/
It’s almost a year old but here was 11th circuit argument https://storage.courtlistener.com/mp3/2022/10/28/louis_clements_v._state_of_florida_cl.mp3
Just saw this https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/09/19/st-johns-county-commission-to-discuss-beach-renourishment-new-restrictions-for-sex-offenders/
Current Law
• St. Johns County Ordinance No. 2009-36 makes it unlawful for Sex Offenders to be on or within a Safety Zone (300 feet) of a St. Johns County park and recreation center, school, daycare center, arcade, school bus stop (when children are present), YMCA/Y WCA, designated Public Library Areas, public or private playgrounds, Boys and Girls Club’s facilities, youth camp grounds, or another other similar location or facility that is designed for or primarily used by children.
Proposed Amendments
• Update the existing ordinance to provide clarification to the notice requirement.
• Strengthen the ordinance by eliminating provisions that are ambiguous.
• Provide new and revised definitions.
• Extend the Safety Zone distance from 300 feet to 1,000 feet.
“Amenity center shall mean a recreational facility, including, and not limited to, clubhouse, swimming pool(s), playground, and open space, operated primarily for the use of residents or neighborhood groups and their guests. For the purposes of this Ordinance, amenity center shall only be enforceable when children are present.”
It passed 5-0
Anyone know whether St John’s new ordinance preserves the exceptions of the old ordinance (such as transporting one’s own kids, just passing through, attending a religious service, etc)?
Or did they strip those out?
Seems they left the exemptions in place from what I remember hearing about the meeting but expanded the ordinance from 300 feet 1000 feet
Update https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/09/19/st-johns-county-commission-to-discuss-beach-renourishment-new-restrictions-for-sex-offenders/
Watching that Clearview video was a bit much. Hey I’m an offender but who did I offend. Sure in many ways we all offend and that came straight from the bible. This registry is nothing but abuse of fellow man for some gain glory by man over man in this sexual coy.
Sure its an honor for FAC to be invited to this HUMAN RIGHTS event but have not all human rights been abused since the dawn of time.
This expo-facto thing effort is baseless as is much of this sex registry. So who is watching over who. Is this registry some space race to see who gets the victory or the just understanding or cannot government count their mistakes and errors in judgement. On the human conditions man is just as sinful as the other person.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iobsAf-pwXw
Since this is a public meeting will you or can you please share this clip with the civil rights council that practically sums up what were against with residency restrictions? They have the evidence, but emotion takes over. They admit they want to banish us. They admit they pass the laws to get as many as they can arrested but yet it’s a civil scheme, so it’s not punishment.
I watched the video. This is not unbelievable, so wrong and it has to be illegal. These people are exactly what is wrong with our country. Florida is out of control.
True true true
https://amp.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article279387854.html
Perhaps someone who’s eloquent with words should write in, what about the registrant who are not on drugs who will simply be arrested stemming from a civil registry scheme. And Ron Book believes housing is the issue, but only housing for some that would be us.