Oklahoma Petition Calls for Constitutional Suspensions for Former Sex Offenders
When tragedy strikes your family, do you call for other families to suffer?
That’s the apparent approach taken by survivors of a horrible mass murder. You see, the alleged murderer in this case had also been convicted of a sexual offense. The family has circulated a petition, with excerpts as follows:
“We’re asking that a person CONVICTED of a sex crime against a child serve life in prison without the possibility of parole. We ask that the probationary terms of those already released from prison for child sex offenses be reevaluated, and we ask for their probation terms to include monthly home visits…We are also asking that sex offenders convicted of crime(s) against children rights be taken to have their own children…if you ruin a child’s life you deserve NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!”
“We are also asking that it be mandated that all city police stations and schools in Oklahoma have a board set up with all local sex offenders’ pictures and information on them and kept up to date. This is so important so we can help our local people, police, and school staff aware of offenders in our area because the man responsible for these horrendous murders, like other offenders, are able to manipulate people into believing false information…”
“We would like to name this law ‘The Knights Law’ in honor of our beautiful Knights whose lives were tragically taken from them.”
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So because of this one person’s actions, let’s forget completely about any good or exemplary actions plenty of other people who have been convicted of a sex offense have contributed to society. Not too long ago there was a man in Oregon who was killed in a mass shooting of a grocery store, but before he was killed, he was able to save the lives of other people in the store. After people went digging around about him, they found his criminal history and actuallly questioned if his actions should be considered heroic! This case is a juxtaposition, but begs the same question… Are all humans always and forever defined by one publicly acknowledged mistake or “heroic” action? Guess what world, humans are complex and everevolving and changing beings. Not everything a person does is directly related to any or every other thing they do. People are not linear beings. The current talking points of the majority of the populous is consistent with propaganda machines like NCMEC, the Book politicians, the Walsh’s, etc. It’s propaganda hype similar to the propaganda of marijuana and crack cocaine.
Do law makers ever cross reference the constitution before they banish, harm and punish people for life? How long do judges keep up the persona that the registry is not punishment? Especially because of it, several have been murdered because of its existence.
Correcting parenting in the USA will make safer communities for children & families. The Oklahoma case is a perfect example to set presidency and case law. If most of the sex crimes are first timers & people are known and trusted;
ITS BAD PARENTING!
(https://twitter.com/UFO_28Mansions/status/1658367192436465664?t=3rZk5W-PBnxNttHV51xAvg&s=19)
Every case is different and every circumstance is different. The forced registration list and the lives of the registrant’s family have become just a TOY for these politicians to use for their own political benefits.
I agree with everything stated above cus our children are most important.
What part of the above do you agree with specifically?
MR Dorsett I agree that children need to be protected
so lets have an AR15 REGISTRY, YES. How about 1000FT GUN FREE ZONE AROUND SCHOOLS. ANYONE WITH HIGH POWERED RIFLES CANT LIVE WITHIN 1000FT OF SCHOOLS LIBRARYS OR DAYCARES. YES
The point is, there is no other crime that has a registry, with the exception of the murder registry. Having said that, I challenge you to find it. I spend an hour of research and could not find any public murder registry.
Where is the vandal registry, repeat shoplifter registry, carjacking registry? And what about other groups who go rouge like a bad politician registry, dishonest judges, bad cops?
I bet there would be so much push back that they would demand it be ended or never even stop. Hypocritical to the nth degree.
CherokeeJack:
Indiana has a violent offender + sex offender registry all rolled up into one. Several other states have a violent offender registry. I believe Illinois is one of them.
We have to stop them before every American is on a registry.
Also, legislation has been proposed in at least two states to microchip sex offenders (Texas and Nebraska) and the calls to microchip sex offenders has been steadily growing over the last ten years.
This BS must be stopped. Sex offenders are the canary in the cage and unless Americans wake up, they will be microchipped as well.
[Note: The moderator is aware of no such bill to microchip registrants but would urge anyone with knowledge of such bills to alert Texas Voices and Nebraskans Unafraid so that their members can work with the legislature during this legislative session ].
Vocal
They can microchip me over my dead body. That is the mark of the beast as far as I am concerned. Bad enough to wear an ankle monitor (Which I never had to do thank God).
Although I do not believe in registries, it is one thing for people who commit sex crimes now and had knowledge of the registry. However, when my incident happened in 1991, there was no talk of a registry. When I was released in 1997, surprise, they had a lifetime gift for me that keeps on giving, I didn’t want it and you cannot send it back, refuse or return it.
Moderator:
VOCAL has been following these issues for decades, long before FAC, ACSOL, etc. and even the internet existed. These bills [citations needed] were introduced in both Texas and Nebraska several years ago before Texas Voices and Nebraskans Unafraid existed [moderator’s note: Texas Voices was established in 2008]. Wisconsin introduced a bill [citation needed] banning people from being microchipped against their will with one sole exception and I believe you can guess that exception (for sex offenders). You can google and locate all of these bills [moderator’s note: claim lacks supporting evidence].
I assume they were all in church Sunday asking God to cancel John 3:16.
https://twitter.com/UFO_28Mansions/status/1657887022596382725?t=8JTwUlyQWsrfK6aCqo9hDw&s=19☝️☝️☝️
Stay informed, stay educated, understand the reality of false fear! 💯🇺🇸💯
UNCONSTITUTIONAL;
PETITIONING TO CHANGE LAWS IN PLACE FOR ISOLATED INCIDENT AGAINST THE STATISTICS OF ODDS OF ALL SEX CRIMES OVER THE COMPLETE AMOUNT OF ALL CRIMES COMMITTED IN THE USA WOULD NOT FIT IN ALREADY LAWS IN PLACE. PRISON DOES CHANGE SOCIETIES ISSUES!!!ITS MISINFORMATION, LACK OF PARENT TO CHD EDUCATION, HATE CRIMES, FALSE FEAR, AND MISUNDERSTANDING OF MENTAL HEALTH THAT IS NOT BEING RECOGNIZED.
👉These crimes are less that .0025 percent chance of happening out of all crimes. For how this crime was committed is far more rare due to it circumstances and details. Consequencing the roughly one million people on the registry or future registrants would not be realistic, ethical, or in the path to positive change in society.
Yes, it is vary sad what has happened, there were things in that community that could of prevented it. Mostly, it is a parenting issue, and not teaching children how to be safe and prevent harm to them selves. This is not a national consequence from a extremely rare event. This petition holds no merit and will be striken down.
We are truly sorry this tragedy happened but this case does not hold merit to change the laws being guided to the future to have less hate, better community safety knowledge, no registries, less guns, happier prosperous people, ect.
#ABOLISHTHESEXOFFENDERREGISTRY
💯👉NO ALTERNATIVE TO THE REGISTRY EITHER! 👈💯
Or maybe re-write John 3:16 KV from “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” to something that replaces the he/him, Son with something that is more inclusive… such as “For God so loved and loves all of Creation that offered was one sign to show all who exist they will not perish at the end of their life journey, but have everlasting existence into the next.”
Hmmm, after reading that, I can see where it might be offensive, maybe judgy, definitely all inclusive, probably unneeded. but I bet it will help get me votes and support… Yes, let’s make this a permanent change AND if you happen to have been involved in the previous iteration, well you are just wrong and need to get to accepting the update….
I hope everyone can see my sarcasm in this comment… if you didn’t see my sarcasm … it is Change for change’s sake is never good or useful, Change that has a name attached to it is often just emotional and is often not good or useful, and Change that is made to further one’s political agenda is NEVER good or useful.
As with most issues surrounding crimes involving SOs, this is a pure knee jerk reaction. We live in OK and we have managed to find a decent amount of peace and live a relatively normal life here. I knew the minute I heard about the case that we were in for trouble even though my husbands case is 23 years ago.
This is a horrific crime but questions need to be asked. The family let their children go for a whole weekend with people they had never met. They didn’t meet them or know what their children were doing. This man was mentally disturbed (whether caused by registration or not) but the family is lashing out and trying to make the loss of their children have meaning. The problem is that they will cause many other innocent children untold hell in their pursuit of “saving them.”
Interesting history of crime ,violence, victimization and lack of learning from it to the degree of perpetuation.. 1) illegally use scarlet letter registrys to force a young adult on to a sex offender registry for a relatively minor consensual offence and continually turning torture screws until they snap and commit a murder.basicly force them to commit a serious crime.. 2) instead of doing the rational thing and taking a degree of responsibility, admitting publicly torturing people until they go crazy and murder or harm others is a bad idea let’s decide to play John Walsh and ask how many more tortures can be those ght of and of course get money and fame for?..can we turn screws and create more crime and victims as a memory for the deceased?.(everyone does understand this isn’t about any one caring for the memories of the deceased. This is nothing but a greedy attention and money grab…John Walsh style… ..