The Orlando Sentinel reports that a man claiming to be armed with a machine gun, resisted arrest after driving into a Winter Park home. Once he was subdued, he claimed that he drove into the house “because a sex offender lived there”.
The house was reported to be unoccupied with no sex offender currently living there.
He was charged with criminal mischief, battery on a law enforcement officer, resisting an officer with violence and threats to harm or kill an officer, but no charges pertaining to his threat to harm a registrant.
With psychos and vigilantes out there, we need to find a way to protect ourselves from attacks on our homes.
I’m in Kissimmee Florida. I’m waiting on the Police right now. Somebody has shot paint balls at my Home and Cars. I catch them….I’m going to be on more than a Registry. I’ll use DEADLY force defending my Family. It’s NOT A GAME…YOU CAN and WILL DIE FOR THIS BEHAVIOR.
Donald, I fully understand where you are coming from. Enough is enough. It’s time to get the registry info off the internet so that such ‘crazies’ cannot go around trying to justify their ‘sainthood’. As we used to say in the Nav…BOHICA…for anyone who messes with my home and I assure everyone I am fully capable of defending my home. My first call to the police would be for a body bag.
Yes Sir,
I very skilled in self defense. Threatening people who are trying to live their lives in peace, Doesn’t make you safe!!! It will get you Dead.
Donald, we all have to go sometime. I just don’t plan to go cowered in a corner somewhere. When I go I plan to take along company…even if it is unsavory.
If he used the FDLE website to find the vacant house with the non existent sex offender he’s guilty of a misdemeanor
My son used to keep a baseball bat next to his door (approved by his PO) – where he lives now is about as safe as one can get (cameras etc.) – but probably not against a battering ram car.
So let me get this straight… They make a reg to keep kids safe Now we got a Crazy man ramming a car in to a sex offender house that dont live there LOL THEN WHAT THE HELL IS THE REG GOOD FOR NOTHING!!!! THEY NEED TO DO AWAY WITH THIS SHIT BEFORE MORE GETS KILLED!!!
I thought the Police are supposed to protect you civil crimes, harassment ect…. How else is there to call ?
Sounds like a reasonable excuse too me…after all he is just doing society a favor by attempting to finish what the state government has started.
First vilify and stereotype them…next shun, humiliate, and abuse them then kill them.
I was first taken back being surprised that a sex offender found housing…but then it was explained that no sex offender actually lived at the address – explained.
Yes, there is some sarcasm in this reply!
SexOffenderTruth.com
http://goodhunt.blogs.theledger.com/23535/hunting-florida-felony-conviction/
do you have any thoughts on this?
Not sure where the FWC gets this rule. Convicted felons are permitted to possess antique firearms and replicas thereof in Florida as long as they do not used fixed ammunition. They are NOT allowed to posses modern in-line muzzleloaders, especially the ones that use shotgun primers, aka modern ammunition components, as caps. The FWC rules re hunting do not seem to line up with the actual firearms laws of Florida.
Aboslutely correct and even explained on the fwc site: replicas and actual antiques are not regulated: anything utilizing obsolete cartridge ammo is also exempt. As long as it follws this ive seen nothing to the contrary . One of the few law descriptions that are as clear as it is.
I called and spoke with FDLE about this law, And I specifically asked about the 1895 Colt 45 !! Because MANY modern Firearms were in use BEFORE 1918 !!. He didn’t want to qoute what Firearms in specific was “Legal” to own, But he did Stress that ANY Firearms manufactured BEFORE 1918 was “Legal” !! And I asked about”Ammo”, Saying that I could buy “Ammo” from Russia that worked in the 1895 45cal pistol, And his reply was, As long as the “Ammo” wasn’t available through “NORMAL” commercial maens !! It was “Legal” And even though he didn’t want to answer me, He gave the “Impression” that buying ammo from other countries was “Legal” !! FDLE won’t ever Confirm what is legal when it’s in the “Grey” area, But from research I’ve found out that we CAN own a 45cal, And use ammo from other countries !! And there is also a “Law” about it being “Legal” for a Felon to own a “MODERN” Firearm as long as it was Manufactured in Florida, Sold in Florida and NEVER left the State of Florida BEFORE you buying it from a PRIVATE Party !!. Something about “Interstate” travel, I’ll have to research it more to give the “Legal” name. But that’s the basics !! You can Legally own a new Firearm as long as you buy it from a PRIVATE Party who bought it from a Florida Dealer that bought it from a Florida Manufacturer !! And it NEVER left that State of Florida EVER !! Before you buying it (or receiving it in any way, Such as a gift). But this law isn’t one I want to test !! But my 1895 Colt 45cal is one !!!. Anyway. It doesn’t matter what kind of “Protection” you get, JUST GET IT, AND FAST !!.
Suggestions:
1) Never rely on what FDLE tells you unless you get it in writing.
2) Never rely on what anyone posts in this forum unless there’s a specific reference to a statute or case law proving it.
Below is the statute and here is a link to the FL Sup Ct. Case: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-supreme-court/1748973.html
Do not take anyone’s word for anything unless you get a legal opinion.
790.23 Felons and delinquents; possession of firearms, ammunition, or electric weapons or devices unlawful.—
(1) It is unlawful for any person to own or to have in his or her care, custody, possession, or control any firearm, ammunition, or electric weapon or device, or to carry a concealed weapon, including a tear gas gun or chemical weapon or device, if that person has been:
(a) Convicted of a felony in the courts of this state;
(b) Found, in the courts of this state, to have committed a delinquent act that would be a felony if committed by an adult and such person is under 24 years of age;
(c) Convicted of or found to have committed a crime against the United States which is designated as a felony;
(d) Found to have committed a delinquent act in another state, territory, or country that would be a felony if committed by an adult and which was punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year and such person is under 24 years of age; or
(e) Found guilty of an offense that is a felony in another state, territory, or country and which was punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year.
(2) This section shall not apply to a person:
(a) Convicted of a felony whose civil rights and firearm authority have been restored.
(b) Whose criminal history record has been expunged pursuant to s. 943.0515(1)(b).
(3) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (4), any person who violates this section commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(4) Notwithstanding the provisions of s. 874.04, if the offense described in subsection (1) has been committed by a person who has previously qualified or currently qualifies for the penalty enhancements provided for in s. 874.04, the offense is a felony of the first degree, punishable by a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
@ tired of me miss treated
To my understanding and I may be wrong because you know how the law is. But the way I understand it with FWC they are the trump card with FDLE meaning they have the authority over FDLE. I called FWC If you follow what they say it’s all legal. But for me a vertical mini crossbow at 350 fpm is the ultimate weapon for protection. But this is a good subject that we need to explore more we need to defend ourselves at all cost but do it legally!
350 fps
Are they going to put this man…if that’s what you want to call him…on a sex offender hater registry?
Impossibility is not a defense. It should be attempted assault at the least. I was arrested for “attempted” and the person did not exist so he should get the same.
This very thing is why I’ve spent the last 5 years Reenforcing My Home !!. Until we move, I want to be as Safe as possible. Just this Weekend we finished our “Safe Room” and Front Door and front “Street Facing” wall !!!. I built a Custom Entry Door. It’s built out of 2X8 Pressure Treated Lumber, With a Full Sheet of 1/4 inch Steel Plate covering the Entire door on the inside. It weighs a TON, But will stop ANY type Bullet, And I Custom built the entire wall with 3/4 inch Pressure Treated Plywood, And DOUBLE stacked(sideways) old RED Brick inside the wall, With 1×6 Pressure Treated Interior Wall, With Paneling on it. This made my only Public Facing wall almost 10 inches Thick !! Everything is SCREWED together with 4 inch Deck Screws !!. OHH, Forgot to add that every 14 inches I drove 1 inch Rebar into the ground about 4 feet and each piece is welded to another 1 inch piece that runs across the ENTIRE top of the wall !! . This formed a Steel Cage wall that will stop a Semi Truck or a 50cal bullet(s) At least long enough for us to either prepare to defend ourselves or escape from the Danger. The “Safe Room” is also built this same way, Except all 4 walls have the 1/4 inch Steel Plating !!. It didn’t cost as much as you would think, The Plating being the most expensive. But it’s worth it to me , Knowing that NOTHING will get to us without us having plenty of warning !!. When we move west, I will build a Cabin that will withstand a Dynamite Blast !!!!. It’s SAD that we as a US CITIZEN most live in this kinda FEAR !!! That we have to go to this Kinda EXTREME to feel SAFE in our OWN HOME !!!!!. As far as this Idiot smashing into this home, What makes it so sad is, The EX Offender probably moved away 10+ YEARS ago !!!!. But, Once Marked, It’s Always Marked !!!!.
Yes,i have thought of this many times.We should all build 30 foot high walls around our houses and when the authorities ask or complain we tell them that we live in fear on a daily basis, registered sex offenders are being murdered across the country,we are protecting ourselves and family from vigilantes that see our addresses on the sex offender web sites. Think about it,10s of thousands of walls going up around houses all over the country. That should get the ball rolling in our direction dam quick. Ya think?
Yes, We should keep a gun loaded and ready……oh wait……….we’re not allowed to protect ourselves…………stupid me, what was I thinking?
I cannot say, but my thoughts are there; just listen.
I have spoken at length with police (names withheld they are a couple of the “good cops”–Ones that LOOKED and read my case and say that I was set-up)
RSO/RSP cannot own a “firearm” in the state of Florida. The Constitution says different.
ALSO you do not need a firearm to protect yourself; many other things that are LEGAL for SO’s to have, posses and own LEGALLY !!
They are;
Crossbow
Bow & Arrow
AIR powered rifles
Paintball guns (with paint and pepper balls)
Batons (short walking stick)
Pepper spray
I have been chased around, had my house shot at, windows shot out. The police did nothing….. Till I started filing IAB reports. Then, within 2 weeks of the first cop getting fired, LO & BEHOLD; the harassment stopped.
I am NOT a violent person, never have been. But you need to look for ways to protect yourself, because the police sure wont !
Please cite the Florida Statute that prohibits rso from owning or possessing a firearm if they are not on probation or convicted of a felony.
If an RSO is not a convicted felon they can possess a firearm. There is no law prohibiting that.
Many RSOs were convicted of misdemeanors and even had adjudication withheld (no conviction). They can own an arsenal.
FAC,
i know this first hand, a family member got mad at me and reported me to local sheriffs department as a ” RSO in possession of a fire arm” long story short, the detective showed up , asked about them, told him i had adjudication withheld, he verified, said have a nice day..the matter is closed !
It’s a fact – there’s NO restriction on a sex offender owning a gun, nor should there be. There’s a restriction on a FELON using a gun.
I was Adjudication Withheld, But somehow my record now show that I’m “Convicted”, So until I get the THOUSANDS of dollars to hire a Lawyer to fix it, I’m not allowed to have Firearms. BUT, I do have a very impressive collection of “Black Powder” weapons. I also had someone call and report me as a S.O. with guns, And a Sgt from the Sheriff’s Office came a Knocking. I let him know that I didn’t have to show him ANYTHING without a WARRENT, But I was happy to allow him to see what I had in “MY” Possession. He was very impressed !!!. And I hunt every season, Go Shooting at the Range, And with a little practice, I’ve gotten very Efficient at reloading pretty Fast !!. I can keep up with someone loading a Auto loader (9mm with a mag) from start to finish.. I’m only 1-3 seconds slower !!. Also, By Florida law, A “Felon” CAN even carry a Black Powder Revolver in their VEHICLE !!. Because it’s NOT considered a FIREARM !!!. But you stand a VERY BIG chance of the Officer NOT knowing the Laws !!!!. I’d suggest carrying a copy of the “Laws” with you !!. My wife has a Concealed carry permit, And is NEVER without her “Protection” !!!. And to answer the question, YES, A spouse of a “Felon” CAN own a Firearm, And CAN have it in the SAME home as A Felon !!! BUT, Must keep it in a area that the Felon Doesn’t visit !! Like on Their side of the Bedroom ! And kept in a safe locked up when they are not there !! And make sure the Felon Doesn’t know the combination of the safe !!!. This is COMPLETELY LEGAL IN FLORIDA AND EVERY OTHER STATE !!!!!. You might not be allowed to own (The Constitution says EVERYONE can own a Firearm!!) A Firearm, But NO LAW can prevent your spouse (Anyone not a felon) from owning one !!!. BTW, You can order online and have a nice .44cal Black Powder Revolver MAILED to you for $250.!!!!. Complete kit ready to fire 50 rounds !! All you’ll need to buy separate is the Powder !! And a “Felon” can posses 50 POUNDS of Black Powder (Or equivalent) Legally !!!. . And they are VERY reliable !!!. Everyone should own one, Even if your Not a felon !¡!!.
even more reason why the registry is bad and riddled with mis information.