Person ordered removed from Florida Sex Offender Registry
Finally, some great news to report.
A person (note: no longer a “person required to register as a sex offender”) has been ordered removed from the Florida Sex Offender Registry.
Florida Statue 943.0435(11) contains a provision that says, an individual “shall be considered for removal of the requirement to register as a sexual offender” if they meet certain requirements, including; it being at least 25 years (formerly 20) since they were released from any sanction, have not been arrested for any other crimes, and meet a qualifying offense (not limited to Romeo and Juliet).
Attorney Ron Kleiner was successful in obtaining this relief on behalf of one of his clients, who will now become a “person” again!
If you feel you might qualify for relief under this provision contact your attorney, or for more information write to [email protected].
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seems my last post didnt go threw but let me ask again so how dose one go about getting the Transcripts to theses cases that have been won or lost so we have some idea to what we are in for I would love to be off the registry but I can find no information on any one that has been removed from it here in Florida to my understanding it should be public record but I cant find anything now with covid 19 cant go to the courts thanks for any info you can give
if been convicted of sexual battery year of 1997 under age 12 qualify for removal from sex offender registry.
if you’ve been off probation and all sanctions for 20+ years, speak to an attorney.
So my question is this, if you are successful getting removed from the Florida registry after 20 years, but then go back to visit the state after you’ve been removed by a Florida court could you then, by some chance, get put back on the registry?
I don’t see how
Yes, and was told some states make you reregister for Life….if you get off the registry just take vacations to other states an never leave the one ur in….oh but remember to stay less than 3 days or you will be having to register….sad news….sorry.
Good morning I was taken off registery in New Jersey in 2013
And still have to register here in Florida ?
I did get in trouble once here in Florida in 2005 and went to prison and was release in 2008
For fallen asleep in a unaccupied dwelling
Any hope for me?
If so any gd attorneyus?
Ty!
so how dose one go about getting the Transcripts to theses cases that have been won or lost so we have some idea to what we are in for I would love to be off the registry but I can find no information on any one that has been removed from it here in Florida to my understanding it should be public record but I cant find anything now with covid 19 cant go to the courts thanks for any info you can give
Don-
I will give you an amazing lawyer’s name. Maybe they can help you?
Monroe & King
(904) 334-9300
They’re in Jacksonville, but they are amazing guys. Pricey. But amazing.
FAC Legal, I recall we were struggling to identify a NE FL attorney to add to the FAC attorney referral list.
When someone makes a recommendation like this, what do we normally do to investigate whether they’re suitable? And, would we need to wait for them to reach out to us?
If you shoot their contact information to legal@ we can reach out. We definitely need more resources. We generally just want to make sure they are competent and sympathetic to our cause.
Unfortunately, many attorneys don’t like to take these cases because (a) bias, or (b) they worry it will taint their reputation before judges and other attorneys they will come before. Those that do, need to know the Statutes, ordinances and Federal laws inside and out, plus current case law, it’s a lot to keep up on. We also need people who recognize our population is generally financially strapped and can work with those who can’t always afford to pay expensive hourly fees.
@Floridaactioncommittee,
Yes we found that to be the case everywhere we turned. Luckily, these guys actually worked for DA in the beginning of their careers and eventually became defense lawyers because of how twisted the law is. They’re both unbelievably amazing guys. And at least for us, we’re very sympathetic to our troubles.
The only problem is cost. They were not cheap. Mainly because they’re that good. I will send their details to you!
Please send me their information
FAC, very well said, as USUAL! KUDDOS…
Just want to stress your one comment AND to expound on it..
“taint their reputation before judges and other”
THIS CANNOT BE SAID ENOUGH!…Around their ‘Water Cooler’, they tend to drink the same Kool-Aid, scared to really make a change, because when MORE stay away from this ‘Water Cooler’, Change will begin to REAR its MANY Happy Faces!
And, the FULL understanding and application of STATUTORY , FEDERAL, et. al Laws, is PARAMOUNT! They NEED TO KNOW EXPRESSLY the full extent of laws, ordinances, Precedent cases, etc, etc, etc and how they are interrelated……..
They MUST BE A SELF-MOTIVATED and be able to go home at night without retribution from their significant other…’They’ all talk to their significant others and most have children that they are still feeding!
Justiceisgone, that’s great info, please share this lawyer’s info with FAC’s Legal Committee at [email protected]
thanks for the info I will give them a call however the phone number is not the same as their web site
I know a Lawyer that has over 25 years dealing with sex offenders, she started out as a prosecuting attorney for the state for years putting sex offenders away then she went private attorney and started helping keep them out, she also is the first attorney that started getting offenders out of the Jimmy Rice center here in Florida, she is great and very reasonable on here price. She is in Hillsborough County Fl. I have used her and she goes in for the kill. Her name is Jeanine Cohen, she has done very high profile cases in Florida like Kevin Kinder, and also the Hyde Park rapist.
It’s nice to know someone was able to get off it. We’re leaving the state because we never knew just how horrible this state was against sex offenders. And honestly never would have known, had we not been given wrong information. Now my husband is facing 2 felony charges, for failing to register. Our county has their fingers up their butts and my husband NEVER should have registered. His charges were OUT of the country AND they were for items that ARE perfectly legal in the US. (Cartoons/anime)
After a 4 yr battle in England, he finally just took their plea because we feared what would happen if he as an American went to trial in the UK. We were scared. But upon returning to the US he was detained at the airport, all his electronics were confiscated and they told him he had to register! We’re learning he may never have had to register. $40,000 Later and he’s facing prison time because he didn’t know the registry was bi-annually! Then they arrested him AGAIN after only 4 months because they said he failed to register…AGAIN!! This county had it out for him and they’re gunning for him HARD. I don’t know how much more he can take. He was just fired over this also. That’s the 5th job to fire him because of all this.
Ohhh….and he used to be an intelligence officer working for DOD/DIA and has been to war 3 times…….🤦🏻♀️
Leaving the state might help with registration requirements but will not help with jobs just fyi. Background checks are done nationally.
It will help with jobs. Plenty of employers who do background checks don’t care much about older crimes, even things as recent as a few years ago. If you have something over 10 years old, I’ve rarely seen anyone who cares.
But what they do care about is the Registries and their business name showing up on a website. Lots of them care about that, but only because of the publicity and nothing else.
But the solution for that can be very easy, depending on your field and the business. What I did was have my own business and they simply hired my business. The added benefit of that was because big government are such scumbags, instead of knowing where I work, they know nothing. All they’ve ever known is that I work for my business. And my business does any kind of work it wants.
Will,
Thank you for that information! We’ve actually discussed that. My husband applied for a business ID and tax permit. He was an intelligence officer. It doesn’t really transfer to the civilian world:(
He did get his CDL, but like you said, no company wants his name under them. So, we considered buying his own truck and going from there.
But he’s not even sure he wants to drive truck. Ugh🤦🏻♀️
Will Allen
You are entirely correct. I had worked for a company for over 20 yrs. over ten of it while on the registry. Never a problem till I was to go work on a job that was a federal contract. The job required background checks. So they would not let me go to work on that job and let me go because of it now being known I was on the registry.
So I started my own company and am doing ok . The people you do business with don’t even need to know your real name.
What a bunch of insanity.
Will,i’m glad you have had such an easy time working. For an overwhelming majority of us, it has not been the easy go of it you describe. Far, far from it. Even McDonald’s will not hire you if you are on a registry in any state at any time. It does not matter how long, why or where. As someone with a masters degree who has been denied work countless times due to my mere presence on the Florida registry, even though I live in NM, even though it was 25 years ago, I can tell you that the process of a background check entails a search of 7 years prior for everything else with sex offender registry having its own section and designation. Even if by some miracle I get a job because some h.r. person doesn’t care or didn’t notice, as I meet people at the job and get to know them, they will eventually/inevitably look me up on google and then they will start gossiping and i will be eventually fired. I just write this for anyone who could be mislead that working while on the registry is really no big deal. For most of us, it is impossible. Though I have had marginal success with temporary jobs working at home alone, I am chronically unemployed as are thousands of others.
I agree with you. It has been so challenging trying to work. I only visited Florida (i never lived there) for a week and they put me on the registry and I can’t get off nor can I afford much legal costs to fight it because it is difficult enough to make money to live/eat.
I could do a little better if I wouldn’t show up on that national registry as I’m past 10 years but the registry is a non-starter. No one with ANY minor charge should visit FL and I have tried to pass the word.
I think that by this time (unless you live under a rock) most everyone has come to understand that Florida is a clusterf^ck of stupidity.
You need look no further than Senator Lauren Book who clearly illustrates that!
However, I do agree that if we can save 1 person from being placed on this HIT LIST due to visiting that shithole then we must keep spreading the word!
STAY OUT OF FLORIDA!
Will,
I would love to get more information on how you did this and the kind of business
Thanks
Thank you for your reply. Yes we are actually fighting it on the UK side, and praying to whoever will listen that we win.
Oh and just to relieve your shoulda couldas, if they told him he had to register at the airport and then didn’t, they would have arrested him anyway. And they don’t care about any of that military stuff. If Jesus were walking around and took a leak in the Garden, they’d arrest him too.
You’re absolutely right about that. I have a friend, 18- peed in public at 3am in the middle of nowhere and is now a sex offender. 🤬
There seems to be a lot of confusion about durations of registration before petitions can be filed. I hope this clears things up.
FAC, feel free to add this to your “Resources” list of documents.
For “Sexual Predators:”
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/1997/775.21
(g) A sexual predator must maintain registration with the department for the duration of his or her life, unless the sexual predator has had his or her civil rights restored, or has received a full pardon or has had a conviction set aside in a postconviction proceeding for any felony sex offense that met the criteria for the sexual predator designation. However, a sexual predator who has been lawfully released from confinement, supervision, or sanction, whichever is later, for at least 10 years and has not been arrested for any felony or misdemeanor offense since release, may petition the criminal division of the circuit court for the purpose of removing the sexual predator designation.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/1998/775.21
(l)A sexual predator must maintain registration with the department for the duration of his or her life, unless the sexual predator has had his or her civil rights restored, or has received a full pardon or has had a conviction set aside in a postconviction proceeding for any felony sex offense that met the criteria for the sexual predator designation. However, a sexual predator who was designated as a sexual predator by a court before October 1, 1998, and who has been lawfully released from confinement, supervision, or sanction, whichever is later, for at least 10 years and has not been arrested for any felony or misdemeanor offense since release, may petition the criminal division of the circuit court in the circuit in which the sexual predator resides for the purpose of removing the sexual predator designation. A sexual predator who was designated a sexual predator by a court on or after
October 1, 1998, who has been lawfully released from confinement, supervision, or sanction, whichever is later, for at least 20 years, and who has not been arrested for any felony or misdemeanor offense since release may petition the criminal division of the circuit court in the circuit in which the sexual predator resides for the purpose of removing the sexual predator designation.
Duration of 20 years added by 98-81
http://laws.flrules.org/1998/81
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2005/775.21
Duration of 30 years added
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2007/775.21
Duration of life added.
For “Sexual Offenders:”
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/1997/943.0435
No duration in statute.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/1998/943.0435
(11) A sexual offender must maintain registration with the department for the duration of his or her life, unless the sexual offender has had his or her civil rights restored or has received a full pardon or has had a conviction set aside in a postconviction proceeding for any felony sex offense that meets the criteria for classifying the person as a sexual offender for purposes of registration. However, a sexual offender who has been lawfully released from confinement, supervision, or sanction, whichever is later, for at least 20 years and has not been arrested for any felony or misdemeanor offense since release may petition the criminal division of the circuit court of the circuit in which the sexual offender resides for the purpose of removing the requirement for registration as a sexual offender.
Duration of life/20 years added by 98-81
http://laws.flrules.org/1998/81
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2007/943.0435
Duration of 25 years added by 2007-209
http://laws.flrules.org/2007/209
I found out recently that I was on the Florida registry list. I have never lived there but visited a sick parent for a few days while on New Jersey probation for a porn charge. I was told to check in with my travel permit and did. I was not obligated to register in NJ and was not on any lists. My NJ probation has ended but the FL registration still shows up. Is there a way to be removed?
Thanks
Contact [email protected]
I was contacted by the scammers Friday. Let me tell you a little more about them. I kept them on the phone for quite a while.
They are either real cops or ex cops or they would not know how to operate the way they do. There are two of them. They both have a southern accent.
They threatened in ways that only cops do . Saying if you don’t cooperate and do everything they say they will order your immediate arrest.
They said the laws were just past where registered persons must appear for new DNA and hair samples and that I was supposed to have appeared on February 4th. When I said I got no notice they said that had happened to a few others. But there was a warrant for my arrest and that he would help me if I would do everything he said . He said I must come to the police station immediately with the bond money. The bond was set at $40,000 so I would have to come up with $4,000 to post bond. I told him no way I could come up with that kind of money. After arguing about it for awhile he said he would do me a favor and see about getting it reduced. So a few minutes later he came back and said they were willing to reduce it to $30,000, so I would have to bring in $3,000 to post bond.
He said according to the new law just passed they no longer take cash or checks. And that they had made arrangements with vanilla one to accept there prepaid cards but that they would also accept Walmart cards. And that I should go to the Walmart and purchase them but they only allow a purchase of 3 $500.00 cards at a time so I should buy three then go to a different cash register and get 3 more.
Also he said I should keep him on the line at all times and if I didn’t he would order an immediate arrest. Also that my arrest had already been posted so don’t tell anyone about it because there are a lot of people wanting to collect the $500.00 reward that is currently out for my arrest.
Also they put a locator on your phone because when I was heading for the police station and got real close to it he got nervous and in a loud voice said where are you going ? I said to the Bank he hung up and I couldn’t get him back.
Though I was 99% sure it was a scam it was very scary for the 1% chance it was real. Also they had a police scanner running in the background. Also it was a local number very close to the police station number. Also after I told them I had three $500.00 cards he asked me to give him the numbers on the back of the card so he could tell the Officer to hold off on my arrest.
There has to be a stop to putting out all our personal information so every scammer in the world can target us. With modern technology to allow your personal information out is nothing short of suicide.
i received the same scam about the dna, i did not let it get too far as they did not have the right city i register in, they were going on outdated info. i told them they were scammers and hung up, they never called back
no one , i repeat no one asks for gift cards. how stupid is anyone that thinks any police department would ask for this.
dna lasts forever, dont let anyone tell you otherwise
HOW did they get your phone #? Phone #’s are not on the registry and NO registered person should ever have a listed #.
The only time I almost got scammed was by HP computer support. MY computer went heywire and they called to help me. Knew my name, Serial # of the computer and everything. I got excited they were helping me when it came to me that #1 my computer was no longer under warranty and #2, even when it was, they NEVER call you. So I said, “Hey I got to take a crap, let me call you back” and I hung up. I immediately called HP support and they verified it was a scam. Luckily I got wise right before they took over my computer.
BTW I finally fixed the issue myself
CherokeeJack
About the phone number . I wondered the same thing. Don’t know. But I’ve heard that all you have to do is google a persons name and you can get tons of private information about them especially with the other information on the registry it’s easy to narrow it down since there are likely other people with the same name as you.
My grand daughter told me she put facial recognition on her phone and googled information and everything about her popped up . Date of birth , school. Education, tickets, address, marriages, divorces, everything.
This is another reason the registry is so insane . If you want to find out about someone the registry is totally useless except for shamming and punishment.
My thoughts are, someone with access to the non public side of the registry leaked it. I do not even have my phone under my name as I have a prepaid phone and you can go onto you account and put Daffy Duck as the owner of the phone if you want.
I of course have to use real name when paying the bill but otherwise phone is owned by John jangle jingle hymer-smitt, his name is my name too.
Most likely your info was stolen in any number of other hacks on businesses hospitals the VA, government databases that have happened over recent years and was cross linked to the registry, making you a more vulnerable target.
I agree with you. We get harassed all the time and my local police do most of the harassing.
SAME HERE. We get followed by local police all around town!
I’m in the same situation. A misdemeanor long ago in another state. I followed the law while on vacation in Florida. Now I can’t get off the registry, even though I’m no longer required to register in other states. It is keeping me from getting a good job. Not right!!!
that’s why we’re raising money for a lawsuit
Awesome!! Need a serious class action suit.
I think our membership is confused as to what a “class action” lawsuit is and entails.
You can accomplish the same with a few representative plaintiffs. “Class actions” are unnecessary and actually counter-productive in these civil rights litigations.
Did you ever figure anything out on this? My wife and i are visiting florida this september
My advice (I am not an attorney) is to NOT GO to Florida. If you do and are required by law to register or check in to the county police, then you should double check the law about how long you can stay WITHOUT winding up on the registry. Its like 3 days or less. But I personally wouldn’t trust that state ever again.
it’s 2 days or less and once you get on the registry in Florida, you don’t come off.
Don’t come to Florida if you value your freedom and rughts
Don’t visit FL if for no other reason than your money feeds the beast. If you must visit, be a drain on their resources.
What if u get ur civil rights back could I get of the registry that way or I have to wait 20 years too. What about the romeo and juliet case I was 5 or 6 years older then her, she lied about her age
In the state of Florida, unlikely someone with a sex offense is ever going to get their rights back. I know on the voting part at least they already stated ” Ain’t never, ever gonna happen”.
They do not want a bunch of offenders voting to overturn the registries.
Of, for and by the people as long as those people are the ones they hand pick.
I’m registered with a withheld adjudication and I’m registered to vote. Bernie 2020