Problem purchasing car when on registry.
Over the past six months we received reports from three unrelated members who have experienced problems when purchasing cars. We originally thought it was unrelated to the registry, but with it now being THREE concerns brought to our attention, we need to determine if there’s something more to it and whether something can be done. Please reply in the comments if anything similar has happened to you.
Complaint One:
I am a registered sex offender in the state of Florida. Over the weekend I want to purchase a car and signed all the paperwork. Payment was made and all that was left was to receive the tags for the vehicle. Then I was informed the DMV delayed issuance of my temporary tags due to my status. I’ve never heard of this, so today I called around and the three reps from the DMV and three attorneys I spoke to all mentioned never having heard of any such rule. What can I do in this situation? I’ve already made a deposit on the vehicle and the dealership is mentioning my status as the reason my tags are delayed.
Complaint Two:
Hello. I am not sure if this is something relevant to share, but I just purchased a new vehicle and while going through that process, their computer system was blocked and prevented the sales of the car. I am a registered sex offender but the program they use had me labeled as a Sexual Predator. This was so very humiliating to go through. But then the sales/financial guy asked me to call the relevant government agencies to figure out how to remove the block. The following day I spent a long time making calls trying to figure out how to remove that block from the Honda Dealership. No one knew what I was talking about since the block had been put in place by the dealership themselves in conjunction with the DMV. I am only sharing this in the hopes that if anyone has the opportunity to purchase a new car that they be made aware of this horrible thing.
Complaint Three:
Yesterday, Sunday March 22, 2021 I went to lease a vehicle from Delray Hyundai. I made a deal, qualified for the lease, and all seemed perfect. After waiting for ½ hr. the salesman asked me to come to the finance office. While there I was informed that they were not able to register the car in my name and transfer my tags to the new vehicle. I asked why and was told that the “system” denied me since I had a “sexual charge” on my record. They even told me at this point that they could not register the car in my wife’s name as she was on the original application. I checked with FDLE in Tallahassee and was told that there is no regulation or law preventing me from owning and registering a car in my name and my only obligation was to report the vehicle change. As of this morning, there is no solution yet to the issue.
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Complaint #1, #2, and #3….
USE Ben’s advice……
“Find out who denied it.
Get it in Writing.
Get an attorney”
Only way to deal with these knuckleheads!
I bought a brand new car in Oct 2020 in my and my wife’s name. We transferred the tags from my old car (which we traded in)to the new one. Then I went to Leon cty sheriffs office to report change. No issues. It’s seems very odd.
We cannot complete any online transactions due to our status. Ive had no problems at the dealers yet but the online stopped working dor me the moment i ended up in fl lost not knowing .
You can renew: cant do direct changes or address changes or plate ordering
Could FAC’s attorneys draft a letter to be delivered to these dealers advising them that they are liable for legal action unless they correct this?
It would be great if these could be created as a PDF for printing in case any of the rest of us need them.
FAC does not have attorneys on staff. Why would they be liable for “legal action”?
In reference to FAC question “Why would they be liable to legal action?”
The DMV or anyone else for that matter cant just at a whim go “Oooh nooo he is a registered sex offender, so we cant possible register his vehicle. Who gives them that authority? it appears that the DMV has no valid reason for this. Cant just make up laws as we go. Once again our rights being violated. One day are we going to walk into a grocery store and be told “Sorry we can take your form of payment, you were denied because you are a registered offender. This is so disturbing.
They dont want us to be homeless and live on the streets. We have to have some form of transportation. “Legal Action” they have to be questioned as to where or whom they are getting this information from. DMW can respond when questioned “Why cant I do this” and they respond with “Because”. I guess you just can fix stupid and because of that each of us suffer every day and more and more.
FYI… My offense 1986 (Not a predator- No Minor involved Indecent exposure and before all this Megan law stuff came out. Never required to register until I move here to Florida in 2006.
30 some years later and it is still make our so called life a living hell. Now i cant even think about buying a car. When does “I have served my time and did everything I was suppose too finally make it just that. Bank Robbers with guns, etc they serve their time and its over.
Ron
Dealers WANT to sell you a car. The only people they turn away are those with crappy credit and even those they try and get them to get a friend or relative to co-sign.
Most all call salesmen/women are on commission. No sell, no paycheck. They are not out to get you(Other than trying to jack up the price to get a higher profit) and low balling you on your trade in.
I would highlight the response from “j,” below, as we are already partway to a solution.
“Can’t swap your tags or give you a temp, Florida DMV has you on a ‘hold.’”
But this hasn’t prevented car buying, apparently. Why not? What is the best car buying process for a registrant to go through, and what should they avoid doing?
triggered a so-called “Angel Watch” alert, ,,,,,,,,
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/03/22/feds-charge-ca-sex-offender-with-child-porn-possession-allegedly-found-after-he-booked-flight-from-sf-to-cambodia/
International Megan’s Law for the first time caught a registered sex offender committing a sex crime, am I right?
If IML is ever challenged, its defenders will point to him.
I hope he is statistically insignificant compared to the total number of Angel Watch alerts generated under IML.
Who knows? But, you would hope that the criminal federal regime would actually be keeping track. Regardless, they will say IML is not “catching” people committing crimes but instead that it is preventing the crimes. Because, as all people with any brains know, the only reason that a PFR wants to travel is to molest children.
Regardless of all that, apparently this guy was/is 73 years old and has no idea how PFRs are being harassed. He thought he could just travel freely and not tell a criminal regime. Then he carries CP with him. So, he just had no clue what he was doing. A person who does could easily avoid all of that.
He might’ve been trying to travel to molest children. BFD. That has absolutely nothing to do with me or even one other PFR in the world. But of course the scumbags who support the Hit Lists do think that a single person committing a crime is an excuse to punish millions of unrelated people. Because Registry Supporters/Terrorists are stupid and immoral.
The ticket being purchased did this or did his advance notification (because he was not charged with no advance notification when trying to travel)? If the ticket purchase is key, then it would seem that advance notification is really only for accountability of the person to Fed SORNA regs and for local LE notification where the Feds already know from the ticket purchase.
An individual below referred to this as a “scam.”
But we know that this cannot be a scam. A scam to accomplish what? Certainly not to make any money. REDUCING sales is not what scams are for.
Agreed, this is no scam.
Scam is the wrong terminology. She was using the term generically. Seems to be more of a direct “assault” on SO’s by a person or persons with a personal hatred or attitude, especially since it seems to be hit & miss.
Proves nothing he was caught in the U.S. with cp on his devices not bringing cp back from a foreign country. What he was actually planning to do and who he was planning to do it with is a a matter of conjecture because he never got a chance to do anything. Unfortunately this will be used to show IML works even though his crimes were allegedly perpetrated on U.S. soil and he was arrested on U.S. soil
There’s no connection between these dealerships and the FDHSMV. The registration system for vehicle purchases doesn’t go through a “screening”. Had a conversation about this with good friend that works for FDHSMV and has been there 25+ years. Her comment was that this is a scam of some type run specifically through those dealerships.