UPDATE: on HB 833, HB 1085 and SB 1252-Where Do We Stand?

What we know for sure is…

  1. House Bill 833 is still pending in the House and contains the “24-hour notice”, while the companion Senate bill 714 was passed without the “24-hour notice” language.
  2. House Bill 1085 was passed in the House and contains the Red Lettering on the entire Driver’s license, while the companion Senate Bill 1252 has NOT yet been heard in the Senate.  It was initially scheduled for Thursday April 27, then moved to Friday April 28, then today May 1….but it was still not heard as is retained on the special order calendar.

It is a fact that Senator Book withdrew her 3 amendments to SB 1252 last night Sunday April 30th, and that Senator DiCeglie’s amendment to remove all reference to the red lettering is still pending.

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1252/?Tab=Amendments

What we don’t not know is….

  1. Will the Senate approve DiCeglie’s amendment to remove all language associated to the red lettering before voting on SB 1252?
  2. Will there be any other amendments AND discussion before the Senate votes on SB 1252?

 

What you can still do NOW….

  1. Reach out to all 40 Senators.  Ask them to vote YES on DiCeglie’s amendment to remove the Red Lettering language on SB 1252.
  2. STAY CALM.  Should SB1252 pass with the red lettering, FLORIDA ACTION COMMITTEE is already preparing our next steps to litigate .

 

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72 thoughts on “UPDATE: on HB 833, HB 1085 and SB 1252-Where Do We Stand?

  • May 2, 2023

    Thank you FAC for the update, and most importantly, for being here for us, to protect us from a political assault. We are in good hands with you up front for us.

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    • May 2, 2023

      Yes! Thank you to all AT FAC!
      You have given us great guidance.

      I am so thankful for that little card I got in the mail several years ago. Thankful to be a member.

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      • May 2, 2023

        UPVOTE!!!

        I received the card years ago. I’m not quite sure what about it got my attention. I think it was the part where I could join even though I had no money for the membership at that point. I had received other letters in the past that only wanted money. After being a member for a few years, I have been able to donate a few times. I know I’ll never be able to pay for all that the FAC has done and will do for me by representing us as a group, but I’ll certainly do what I can.

        Personally, I feel it’s the perceived financial obligation that initially deters potential members. That’s why my main pitch when encouraging others to join is about the fact that I’ve been a member so long yet didn’t have the means to donate for years. I tell them that they’ll receive an annual letter for dues, but even if you don’t/ can’t pay, you’re still a member. I tell them that if they follow these posts, they ‘ll understand this is no scam and they’ll probably develop a desire to give back when able.
        I also mention that the more members the FAC represents, the more attention they receive from politicians. Nearly every member has AT LEAST one (and probability more) person that they are close to who is a voter.

        JOIN! JOIN! JOIN!

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  • May 1, 2023

    Don’t forget that the legislators will be done on Friday, and they are required to get a budget done before they recess. That is a requirement. They are not required to pass the bills we are concerned about. And senator DiCeigle really wants his bill passed, and I don’t believe he will cave in on the Red Letter Law.

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    • May 1, 2023

      I’m Not really concerned about the red lettering. I just use my passport anyway -it’s an ID and present my Driver license only to law enforcement. The main concern here is the green kisses of death. My car is sure to get vandalized and It may cause my life driving with the new open carry laws in place.

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      • May 2, 2023

        hELLO,
        IM NOT A SO BUT MY BOYFRIEND OF 17 YRS IS, AND IM ALSO WORRIED TO DEATH ABOUT THEM WANTING TO PUT FLOW GREEN TAGS ON OUR CARS ,SINCE I OWN SEVERAL WITH MY BOYFRIEND, I CAN JUST SEE ME PARK AT A STOP SIGN, AND SOMEONE SEE,S MY LICENSE TAG, AND DECIDES THAT DAY HE,S GONNA TAKE OUT ALL SO BECAUSE THEIR DAUGHTER OR WIFE WAS RAPE OR MOLESTED BY ONE AND SHOTS ME DEAD, I CAN,T BELIEVE THEY R GONNA PUT US ALL OUT THEIR TO BE HURT OR KILLED.. I HOPE THIS IS NOT PASSED, WE R VERY WORRIED ABOUT THIS LAW THEY R TRYING TO PASS. THANKS FOR LISTENING, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH U. JURECKOO12

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    • May 1, 2023

      The House is done on Wednesday. Unfortunately most of the budget was passed already.

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  • May 1, 2023

    The current Fl driver’s license already has the S.O with the Fl chapter number in front of it ? Why complicate it more for people to conduct business ?

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    • May 1, 2023

      I am a commercial driver of 20 years, HB 1085 has a lot of language concerning the red lettering language, it seems apparent that this state is going after our lively hoods , so its just a matter of time they come after our occupational licenses next…… definitely not an equal opportunity state, I am amazed how the people up in Tallahassee will either debate each other or ride the same money bus together. so much corruption, very sad… P.s Great job for everyone up there supporting FAC, saw the video SB1252, was a real tear jerker, thank you , maybe will get to see the light @ the end of the tunnel in my life time.

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    • May 2, 2023

      Yes courts are supposed to uses the least restrictive means test vs state interest. There on record saying it already contains the blue ink markings. So we already have a mark. They go onto to say this will Simply change it to red to make it easier to read. It’s no longer the least restrictive means at this point now it becomes us carrying the government messages against due process.

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  • May 1, 2023

    Really?

    I’m more confused now, than I was last Thursday…..

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  • May 1, 2023

    So the horrible fluorescent green plates issue is gone ?

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  • May 1, 2023

    It is my understanding that if DiCeglie’s amendment is approved and SB 1252 passes without the red letter law, then because SB 1252 and HB 1085 are nearly identical, the Senate can send SB 1252 to the House requesting that it be merged with HB 1085 and adopted with the new language in SB 1252. I believe this is our best shot. Otherwise, I do not know what happens to bills with conflicting language.

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