UPDATE: on HB 833, HB 1085 and SB 1252-Where Do We Stand?
What we know for sure is…
- House Bill 833 is still pending in the House and contains the “24-hour notice”, while the companion Senate bill 714 was passed without the “24-hour notice” language.
- House Bill 1085 was passed in the House and contains the Red Lettering on the entire Driver’s license, while the companion Senate Bill 1252 has NOT yet been heard in the Senate. It was initially scheduled for Thursday April 27, then moved to Friday April 28, then today May 1….but it was still not heard as is retained on the special order calendar.
It is a fact that Senator Book withdrew her 3 amendments to SB 1252 last night Sunday April 30th, and that Senator DiCeglie’s amendment to remove all reference to the red lettering is still pending.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1252/?Tab=Amendments
What we don’t not know is….
- Will the Senate approve DiCeglie’s amendment to remove all language associated to the red lettering before voting on SB 1252?
- Will there be any other amendments AND discussion before the Senate votes on SB 1252?
What you can still do NOW….
- Reach out to all 40 Senators. Ask them to vote YES on DiCeglie’s amendment to remove the Red Lettering language on SB 1252.
- STAY CALM. Should SB1252 pass with the red lettering, FLORIDA ACTION COMMITTEE is already preparing our next steps to litigate .
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So if I am seeing this correct 1252 is not on the Calendar for today. Any info on this as I would rather not watch all day. 🙂
Don’t we still have to worry about bill 833 today? 24hr reporting of rentals
The worse part of all of this is the fact that there are people that are innocent and were convicted because of the point of a finger by someone that had a grudge against or wanted to get what they wanted from someone.
It’s a cruel world we live in and it is never going to get any better.
I Know that there are people that belong on a list for lifetime, but not everyone. And this putting all of these things on Drivers Licenses and license plates is just Wrong.
So well said, Jerry. I wish there was a “like” button — I’d have used it for your comment.
Thank you FAC. I just recently joined very thankful 🙏🏽
I wanted to know if any of you have this on their drivers license. When we all had to get the new DL that has the transparent image of yourself imprinted on the license, I noticed the letters SO Imprinted on the state of Florida. There was no law that said that insignia had to had to be on the license. The department of Highways took it upon themselves to make it happen.
I’ve always thought that was carrying the states message. There has been no post on FAC about this new rule. Has anyone of you had this new insignia on your Florida DL?
Yes I do. Got my license last year.
I do as well. I will say that I’d rather have that than the red lettering, but I’m going to include that in today’s emails – we have a statute AND a hologram “SO.”
SO is clearly on the hologram in the middle of the outline of Florida.
Mike, you’re correct. The letters “SO” do appear in hologram of the state. Not sure how this happened but there doesn’t seem to be a law requiring it. At least, I can’t find one. This is compelled speech, IMHO. I for one do not identify as a “SO”, “Chomo”, “Pedophile”, “Pedo”, or any other moniker the State has labeled me as.
Mine has sp in the hologram and sexual predator written next to the small picture of me on the bottom left. It really angers me because I’m classified this due to a custody battle and accusations made with no evidence and a lawyer who said it’s a he said she said and they want to believe her.
As this is not part of the statute and its only supposed to be the number or the statement, is this a violation? I havent seen anything other than the ordinance or sexual predator on the bottom right as a listed consequence.
Thank you for pointing this out. Until you posted, we did not notice. And sure enough it is there.
I think is Federal law called the Real ID Act.
Yes R.R., the new license was required by the Federal Law “Real ID”, but the added insignia SO or SP is a Division of Motor Vehicles decision to put it on the license.
In history the German Third Reich required certain groups of people to carry the insignia of that group on their sleeves. In today’s society, our identification is our STATE ID or DRIVERS LICENSE.
Here is the PDF telling Florida Residence what is on the new Real ID. On pg 10 Sectionn 02, notice the words “will continue to allow” in the discription, as if the SO/SP insignia were always there. It also says the 943.0435 F.S./SEXUAL PREDITOR designation is printed in blue. Now they want it in red.. As it is right now, we are all literally “carrying the States Message.
You can read the PDF here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.flhsmv.gov/pdf/newdl/retailguide_aug2020.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjewpLt-dv-AhXfnGoFHZTeBt0QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3bkI7yhKsyaPoLHT8faIQh
I never noticed this.
i got my last one in 2020, it has the hologram face and my initials and birth year and FL, but i do not see SO anywhere… did it come after 2020?
I’m not due to get a renewal until 2025. I can’t remember exactly, but I think I renewed in 2018. All I see by way of holograms are several of the dime sized seals of the State of Florida. On the back it states that a replacement license is required within 10 days of address change or name change. When did they start this new branding?
Yes, I have it on my license here in Florida. Actually goit it a few years ago and I hate it.
Do any of you happen to know why SB 1252 is now “retained on calendar” as opposed to “retained on special order calendar” as it has been for the past several days? Is that good for us? Bad for us? What does it mean?
Any updates on anything about all these laws?
And Again,
CS/CS/SB 1252 (2023) Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/01252
SENATE – Retained on Calendar
They now have two days left.