Senator Lauren Book (senate) and representative Fitzenhagen (House) have sponsored legislation that, among other things, would reduce the number of days that constitutes a permanent or temporary residence to THREE (3) days, instead of the current FIVE (5) days.
Five days is bad enough, but three days would mean no more long weekends away with the family without having to take the extra day off to go IN PERSON to the DMV to change your address (and then again, to change it back)!
HB 1301: Sexual Offenders and Predators
SB 1226: Sentencing for Sexual Offenders and Sexual Predators
Sexual Offenders and Predators; Reduces aggregate & consecutive number of days used to determine residency for purposes of sexual predator or sexual offender registration; provides for mandatory minimum sentence of community control with electronic monitoring for certain offenses.
It will change the current 5 days to 3 days. Require in person notification!
It’s impossible for registrants to comply. This is just another tactic of the legislature to set mine fields for registrants who want to travel or for visitors to our state.
Once on the Florida Registry … even if you are not on a public registry in their home state … they will be now, courtesy of Florida.
For those who DO live here and periodically travel, this requirement is unrealistic. You would have to make TWO trips to the DMV to change your address (and then change it back). For a three-day trip, you’d have to spend two days waiting at the DMV.
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ZORAIDA hung up on me basically……first I said the mean spirited bill to change from 5 – 3 days will just increase the incidents made in haste error that will get registrants into trouble….then..reminded her..that
my teen age son went into her local office and asked if she was there and any summer work. The answer was no to both. Then Ms. Book came from cubicle area behind front desk. So I just reminded Zoraida how Ms. Book lied to my son. …boom. hung up.
Have to tell everyone this, My son from New York just arrived in Miami on Saturday morning to be there for a cruise that left Sunday. His last text to me before boarding was, “I don’t think we would consider a vacation to Miami. Its so weird, and people aren’t very nice.” This coming from a person that I’ve told little about Miami/Dade and in such a short time he noticed something was amiss . Haven’t been there in a long time myself, but am sure the void has grown and that part of out state has really festered into a big boil of puss just waiting to bust and infect the rest of the state! I don”t know about anyone else but its easy for me to visualize how this could really be viewed. These latest Bills in great part have come from them “down there” just like a cesspool overflowing in your yard.
I am confused: I really wanted to go to the Gaternationals in Gainesville in March. Well I had originally thought that I could go there for the weekend which would start on Thursday and end on Sunday. That would be 4 days and three nights.
We would be staying at the speedway for the event. What would be the address to report and would it be a violation to do this?
This is all very upsetting. I guess we will just have to drive back and forth each day to stay in compliance.
the bill has not passed yet
I think it’s insane that someone can lie about their age and the person has to be designated as an sex offender for the rest of their lives and no sex assault actually happened. Adolf Hitler once said what such luck rulers had that men don’t think. And he also said if you tell a lie long enough people of believe it why is it that this evil dictator is being proven right by Florida legislators.
This was my email to all addresses provided by FAC –
Representatives:
I am writing on behalf of myself and those that would be affected by this terrible bill that’s been put forward and now has passed committee. It seems easy, perhaps maybe even an afterthought- to just say Yes to anything that further punishes or make the lives of those who are unfortunate enough to have this label; sex offender, worse.
So rather than argue the moral implications of what this will do to the population trying to survive, their families, and those that are lucky enough to actually HAVE housing. Let’s look at what this will primarily do:
First – Residency reporting: You should know that at least 18 Florida Counties have at least 3 continuous days where Sex Offender reporting and registration can not be done. This will place a burden on those counties who already have a tough time monitoring those who are off probation or parole and have to manage a very strict transient population because of the law stating 30 day recurring registration for those that are homeless. This will cost taxpayers money and stretch Florida Sheriff’s departments and their budgets further due to this constraint.
Second – Those with the label DO TRAVEL – for work, to see family in other states, emergencies, same things the rest of the country does. Hard for some of you to believe – but the label encompasses a LOT of different crimes not just heinous ones. So yes there are friends and family that care about those in that population and reducing the time to 3 days makes it near impossible to visit anyone. My family, for example, lives near Chicago. This is a big country -relegating us to 72 hours is cruel and unnecessary period.
Third – Registrants won’t be able to comply and this could adversely cause a surge in the homeless populations of these offenders. That means no addresses! Less monitoring etc. Example? Look at what happened with Ron and Lauren Book’s lovely sex offender ordinances in Miami-Dade county. Hundreds of offenders forced to live under a causeway – now they will be forced to be locked up simply for being homeless due to another sponsored ordinance. But that is another subject.
The next part of the bill deals with community control with electronic monitoring. According to current statutes, this already occurs on any offenses that happen after October 1 2005. I am not sure what is accomplished by re-affirming this.
Finally let me ask a few questions of you: Why is this bill needed? What has changed that warrants this departure from monitoring offenders and making their lives more horrible?
The idea of punishing someone AFTER they have completed their sentence has and is against several US Constitutional amendments. Michigan just found that out after they tried to pass Post de Facto laws to their sex offender statutes. The US Supreme Court refused to hear Michigan’s appeal and thus the US Appeals court for that district ruling, which struck down the law, was upheld. Thus Michigan is being forced to re-write their own Sex Offender laws after it was deemed “punishment”.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/10/02/sex-offender-registry-law-united-states-supreme-court/723447001/
The fact is – these are nothing but “feel-good” laws that do nothing to provide safety and awareness for the State and its citizens. And a law like this will most likely have the opposite effect as registrants scramble to find approved address before being homeless.
It’s not just about the Offenders or Predators. Their families are involved and tied to them. They are innocent. Should they be subjected to this? Businesses may suddenly have pockets of registrants living near them as they are forced to live outside of large buffer zones with insufficient time to find housing with transients near their customers.
To conclude – here is the point. The law ISN’T NEEDED. Unless Lauren and Ron Book can provide some valid reasons why they need to turn 77,000 offenders and thousands of families up on-end for the sake of passing something with their name on it. The Vote should be No. Please, I implore all of you – think hard about this and the consequences before making a bad situation worse.
Great letter!!!
Why start a sex offender political party. I’m sure they have a lot of registered voters who would vote their way they simply asked Genesis 11:6 says when the people are of wine language nothing will stop them from what they have imagined to do. Power of Unity even works for them.
To all those who gate the system we can either rise up together as a whole and buck, we can do our part in writing and protesting, reaching out and educating, or we can continue to complain. Complaints rarely create change action does…that’s should be a a slogan somewhere…. anyway let’s take action one way or another…if you want to rise up and nonviolently strike against all the petty riles and regulations we need to do so as a whole, if we educate, write to we need to do so as a whole, but complaining changes nothing….
Ren A Gade is 100% correct. We need to do something in an organized fashion. FAC and NARSOL give us a base to build around. We must realize that many bureaucrats are ‘dumb like a fox’ when it comes to sex offenders. The have been fed the ‘coolade’ of false information, paranoia, and media hype for so long that now they believe the ‘garbage’ they are drinking and want to use their authority to destroy as many lives and families as they possibly can in the name of civil service to the public.
So the question is what do we do? I don’t mind standing and bucking or writing but we all need to come together on this statewide, Nationwide and make our voices heard…talking amongst ourselves also does nothing…
Ren A. Gade – read the call to action and take the action we’re calling for.
Naturally sharing your thoughts here is preaching to the choir (which can be useful in exchanging ideas and feedback), but writing and calling the legislators is not.
On the subject of something to do. A good place to start would be talk radio. But you have to have someone with an open mind and we have to have someone with a good knowledge of the situation with all the correct facts in order. Yesterday in the Kansas City area 98.1 FM was discussing the Florida law allowing felons to vote every one agrees they should but nobody brought up the fact that that law was to not allow sex offender s or murders.these programs have a very large audience
David – if you can get a talk show to feature the topic, we’d have no problem getting FAC representatives and experts to speak.
You can set it up yourself it’s KMBC 98.1 816 576 7798 attention Scott Parks . You can quote me that yesterday they were discussing the proposed new law to allow felons to vote but did not have some very important facts about it. You could call now between 2 to 6 central or even better text.
We need a volunteer for the media committee to handle these items. Anyone interested in stepping up?
Can someone not in the state offer to help? I tried contacting NARSOL about volunteer opportunities but no one ever got back to me. I’m a newly registered registrant in the northeast. I used to be a programmer, physicist, and data scientist prior to my conviction. I have experience in web development as well. Surely my skills could be of use to someone.
Absolutely!!! and thank you!
I will send a separate email!
Correction on the contact for the radio station 98.1 FM or 980 AM KMBZ phone # 913 576 7798 or text 22980 sorry for the mistake. Scott Parks 2pm to 6 pm cst
Has anyone received a response from any of the Legislators?
Just automated responses.
Only robotic
Please everyone keep calling and spreading the word on this. It is so unreasonable and unimaginable and that is why they are doing this. Everyone has a good comment here, and with this ridiculous law, let the s–t hit the fan, and let it be this year!
I don’t live in Florida but issues like this effect everyone. Politicians in other states see what happens in Florida,if they get away with it there they will try to do the same in there home state.to advance there own career.the feds have tied all the states together in this thing so it’s not just a one state problem
It’s all an agenda.
This is just another evil tactic to throw people in prison and conform to a unjust system. Three days to find a new residence, or go to jail? Absurd! Incarcerating people unfairly… is this the way our taxpaying dollars should or will be spent?
Oh, and by the way, welcome to Florida.
so if we visit from out of state and stay only 2 days per location, can we just keep going
vacation scenario
its aggregate for the initial registration. After that first 5 days through the whole year you’re on the list even if its one day at five sites then youre comitting a felony by not registering… evens if the 6th day is the following year. Welcome to our hell….
where did you saw it was aggregated? I have always saw consecutive. I have even ask my lawyer about it and she said consecutive.
Orange County tried to rope me up on this very distinction. It is aggregate. 5 days per calendar year, not consecutive. So you can’t be somewhere for 4, move back home for 1 then go back for 4 more, etc…. they look for that because the laws are so gray and not specific. But the sheriff’s office told me it is aggregate, total days per year. I believe it’s per address though, before you have to register it as temporary or don’t stay overnight anymore. Whatever “overnight” really means…..to me that’s subjective. What if you work nights and sleep days? Like I said, gray area big time.
-What counts as a night stayed?
-Is it a calendar year or any 365 consecutive day period?
My understanding is that any address stayed at in aggregate (say a parent or friend you visit one night at a time, reaching 5 nights a year) must be reported as an additional or secondary address. Addresses stayed at for 5 days consecutively must be reported as a change of permanent address with a new ID showing the new address.
This new law would change the 5 days to 3 days in both cases.
In any case, law enforcement officers interpret statutes however they like so YMMV.
The STATUTE, which is what readers should go by is 5 days consecutively or in aggregate during the years, which is not your permanent residence, is temporary, if you abandon a permanent or temporary residence and do not have a new permanent or temporary residence, you must register as transient every 30 days.
Its just another recourse for le to arrest or violate you. Its a just in case clause to hold ober your head. Its nearly impossible to comply with so its low hanging fruit
I realize it’s a very personal decision and no two legal/life situations are the same, but do realize everywhere you temporarily register, your “stamp” will be there for life and you have no way of knowing how that information may be used both now or in the future. At the very least, you will be putting yourself on yet another “list” that says, “this s.o. comes to town on vacation.” AND you might get there and in an attitude of diligence and with an honest desire to follow the law be told, “no, you can’t stay here or you can’t be where you are visiting. Go home.” I saw screw all that. My attitude is, let ’em find out and come get me if they need to, but they’re not getting any extra information outta me. I have often wondered what kind of change would occur if every single one of us, say all moved at the same time and they would have to take all of us to jail. They are running out of money, the numbers are getting higher and higher and I believe that the numbers alone will force lawmakers to eventually step back and realize that what they are doing is a wasteful useless scheme which is actually harming our communities and that severe changes are needed. The fact is everyone single one of us in this country all agree on ONE thing: if you in fact are one of the .0001 whatever percent of people who are truly a danger to children and to the community, then i’m sorry you belong in prison. But fuck the rest of this shit.
Maybe it is time for me to publish online the beatings and killings of SO’s in Florida Prisons that I witnessed…I have 45 minutes of video depicting beatings and killings by the redneck fat obese florida correctional officers…yes…all those cell phones that the officers bring into the prisons…yes we put egg back on their faces…so do we use these videos as blackmail?…or do I email Pammy Bondi and hold this under her ‘pretty’ nose?
Just waiting to drop these bombs….witnessed 3 elderly men get killed by Florida Correctional officers and others thrown down steps etc and the neglect by medical staff not treating prisoners….I do not reside in the USA anymore because I realize that the SO registration requirements will never change…I appreciate what everyone does, to try to change things but Florida will never change…I no longer reside in the USA, I forfeit seeing my loving family, but they can visit me here in paradise where I live in freedom and where I only have to register for 5 years…annual registration here is signing into a book..you write and sign your name…thats it!…no one judges you here….good luck to the FAC..thank you for what you all do!
Please share these with [email protected] We can find good use for it!
Release the tapes!!! Blast Pan Blondie and bring down the FL DOC. I too witnessed exactly what you’re talking about and would be more than willing to talk to and be interviewed by anyone that wants to write a book or do a documentary. ….by the way, what country are you in? Sounds like paradise.
I am really confused about this temporary / permanent residency crap. As an ex-offender, not on probation nor community control, but subject to registration, I have routinely rented cars and gone out of town for a week at a time. All I do is report renting the car. They never ask where I am going, so I don’t offer any information. If I went to, Tampa, let’s say, I didn’t check in with Tampa PD or Hillsborough County Sheriff. I did try to stay at two different addresses though, no more than 4 days at either one and not go back to that address for the rest of the year. Was I breaking any laws?
Also, why bother contacting our legislators unless they are on the committees? Once a bill passes all committees and goes to the floor, it always passes. We need to know exactly who is on the committees and contact them. Am I right?
When I travel, I do the same thing. I will not stay at any address for more than four nights, and then I move on to the next one. According to the laws that are written, I don’t believe that you are doing anything illegal.
Under the proposed law, you would need to change hotels every 2 nights.
This law is really a waste of time this registration stuff doesn’t work at all because no matter how many days a person register if they are really sick individuals they can have heads decapitated people in the refrigerator for years so long as they make you registration date they’re okay. And what about the ones that have never been caught and will never be caught?
And whoever created this law they were some really creepy people and probably have something to hide so bad that they want everyone else to suffer for it.
I really don’t understand why people aren’t seeing what’s really going on many want this law to go away even State’s Attorney’s and they are giving attackers lesser charges to get a conviction and the offender can avoid the registration how is this helping anything anywhere in this country?
Jerry Y and FAC, thank you for your responses. Every two nights will be a chore!
This bill will cause me to lose work. I work all over the State and have been able to schedule jobs that are within the 5 day rule. Some of my work is given to me a day before when I’m already on a job. If such such becomes law, any work assignment that would exceed 72 hours away I will have to decline or miss hours on the job in progress. Can this very REAL possibility of loss of income as a direct result of this law be grounds to support a constitutional challange?
Also, what is the imagined nexus or causation by which to reduce the days, other than that, just because they feel it should be that way. I guarantee they cannot point to any crime committed by any registered person that necessitates the change in the law.
Called earlier in the week and left the secretary a message for that moron Ron Book who’s passing laws without any rational or scientific basis, wasting taxpayer money in the process.
I can personally tell you why Mrs Brook is pushing this law for a S.O.F having 3 days to register in Florida, 2 years ago I from CA.- Tom Madison from Oregon-Derek Lodge from Ohio-other from out of state all Protested in front of the Florida state Capital against Mrs Book, had this 3 day law been in place we as a group from out of state could not have pulled it off.
This is really I ama afraid of S.O.F coming from out of state to protest S.O.F laws in Florida by Mrs Books!
I don’t know about anyone else, but when I change residence I normally call a moving company, have the power and water turned off, and vacate the property. No where in the real world does visiting with a family member or friend for 3-5 days constitute a relocation of residence. My residence is where my property is located…and I don’t mean a suitcase…, where I receive my mail, where I maintain the lawn, where I receive an annual tax bill, and where all my family and friends know that I live on a regular basis. Going on a scuba diving trip for 5 days does not constitute a change of residence. Where are these ‘clowns’ Fitzenhagen and Book coming from? They would have been a perfect fit for the Gestapo or KGB, but in the United States they are totally out of place and contact with reality. In Brevard county the SORT office where one could register is only opened on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. I certainly would not plan my travel around their schedule. They are nice people, but there is a limit! And just to think Fitzenhagen and Book are getting paid for this foolishness!
I used your link and called my rep and left the message with the person answering the phone at her office. I also called Tallahassee office and left a message.
This is the first time making a call like this to my rep and wonder what is the best thing to say if they answer or what message to leave on the recorded voice mail?
I simple said my first name and stated that I was calling to encourage Representative Grall to vote “NO” on HR 1301and left my zip code.
Well if we cant vote for them are they really our reps? We arent even constituants if you thi k about it. We cant vote so they dont even consider us citizens. They will do nothing to entertain our issues as we have no affect on them.
I had a couple of experiences trying to register my presence with sheriffs outside of Florida. In Rich Creek, VA, I went into the office to report my presence and the officer there asked me what I wanted him to do? I said just put your initials on this travel permit…to show I made an effort. He didn’t ask for my name or any other information. He initialed it and I left. Another time I was in Virginia Beach for a release from probation hearing. I went to three different sheriff’s offices and no one knew what to do so I just went to the VA Beach probation office and let them know I was there. They said OK and then I left. Once again they didn’t even ask for my name. In the time it took I could have had a couple cups of coffee. Most of these states are so far ahead of Florida in managing sex offenders that trying to comply with Florida out of state is a joke. I have a friend in Richmond, VA, who is an ex-sex offender. He got his voting rights restored without even requesting it. “This is earth, come in Florida”.
Here its just done for the thrill of it and the revenue. No other rhyme or reason. Everywhere else i was ok to thrive and live. Here somehow im on some sick perverted lifetime control.
I e-mailed both of my representatives in hopes it does some good . Why is it never brought to light that Mrs. Book was a victim of a sexual predator and that’s why she has a grudge against anyone on the registry. Its personal for her not professional its like having bills put forth to make life for arsonists hell because a senator got her house burned down as a child.
We cannot stop fighting the fight but every time i see another e-mail from F.A.C. i cringe because i know its just 1 more thing to make our lives a living hell. There are so many rich people recently that have been placed on the registry why cant we get them to pony up some cabbage and get people on this 24/7 (the squeaky wheels gets the oil) Because of my crap job i dont have a second to do so or i would as i am sure most of you out there would. This is modern day slavery telling us where to live and arresting us if we dont live there, making just enough money to survive until tomorrow so we have to stay at that job or miss a day or pay, not allowing us to stay in shelters when hurricanes or worse come. I wish just a glimmer of the insanity would stop. Or someone would go up to Mrs Book and her Father and apologize for what happened to her as a child maybe that would make things better for us.
Mr. Hope,
you’re hearing from us a lot about crappy stuff because it’s legislative session – the time of year when legislators pay back the lobbyists.
You’ll get fewer cringe-worthy emails after session is over.
At least you’re hearing something, right? Otherwise all this would be going on in the background and nobody would be opposing it.
FAC keep the information flowing. I thank you so very much for your involvement. I’m sure everyone does but the games these bureaucrats play to make people think they are earning their salary are frustrating. It’s all of our jobs to slowly but surely show these ‘legislative clowns’ to be the fools that they are.
OK, I will call and make my meaningless attempt to fight these morons. However, they can make all the laws and additions to bills they want, I WILL NOT follow their ridiculous and impossible laws. When I plan on going on vacation, I’m gonna do just that, go on vacation. I’m not going to spend one ounce of my brain cells worrying about complying with Little Miss Precious’ law about registering a temporary address. Kiss my a$$! OK, so say I go on vacay for longer than 3 days. The only way I can get busted is, A) I get pulled over and that sheriff’s deputy is actually smart enough to know what the rules are on sex offenders (spoiler: most cops have no clue) and I get questioned on how long I’ve been there…which begs another question, how in the f**k will anyone know how long I have or have not been in a said location?? OK, so I pay for everything in cash so there’s no paper trail on my debit card about where I’ve been, etc… and B) The very unlikely event that a detective does their yearly check at my residence while I’m on vacay. Which again, I can always lie and say yeah I just went out of town for 2 days, I’ll be back tomorrow and can meet you at my house then…….here again, I’ve found that MOST cops and even detectives have NO CLUE or cannot seem to harmonize with each other on what the laws are governing SO’s……So go ahead Lauren Crook. Make all the damn laws you want to make yourself look relevant. I can assure you, I won’t follow a damn one of them.
If a local cop ever suspects that I’ve been away from my permanent address too long, and starts asking me where I’ve been, etc., he’ll get no answers from me. I will never answer any questions from the local sex offender squads unless I feel like it, and it benefits me in some way.
If you are NOT ON PROBATION, when the police come to your home to do address verification, show them your license, politely smile, but you are not under any obligation to answer questions and certainly do not let them into your home. Nothing can be gained by doing anything other than verifying your identity and address to them and thanking them for their time.
Be polite and courteous. If they say, “nice weather we’ve been having!” it’s fine to say, “yes, the weather has been great”, for example. But if they ask questions relating to your offense, where you go, what you do or ask if you mind if they come inside and take a look around, you should tell them you would love to be cooperative but you’d like to have an attorney present if they want to ask you questions, and if they want to come inside, they can only do so only with a warrant.
I do have to say, the deputies that have done my verification’s have all been polite and courteous.
and I , in return , have been the same.
most of the ones that that have been out know me and the majority will tell you ( as they have told me ) these laws are wasting their time and resources, but it’s their job, so they have to do it
So you wouldn’t be surprised by the things that I heard other officers that came by and did my brothers registration. One of them said we don’t care if we stay here or not you just tell us to stay here and that’s what we want to go on
Very good advice. I totally agree. I don’t need to constantly answer questions about something I’ve already paid my debt to society for.
All of the deputies that have done my in person verifications have been courteous and brief. “Hi Mr. Anonymous, any changes to report?” “No sir””Ok, have a nice day””Yes sir, you too”. Sometimes they stop by when I’m at work and leave a card in the door to call when I return home so they can stop by and say hello. Sometimes I meet them outside and they never get out of the patrol car. Some have lamented that it’s just as big of a pain in the ass for them as it is for us, though I seriously doubt they have a clue.
I’d like to see us go to a risk based model with an escape hatch like Georgia has. My non contact offense has been ages ago and I’m still ten years from being allowed to apply to deregister, assuming I don’t accidentally run afoul of the “any new offenses” clause and start the 25 year clock over again…or the 25 year clause gets revoked entirely due to one of Ms. Books laws.
Come to think of it, has anyone successfully deregistered in Florida using the 25 year provision?
Nobody that we know of has successfully petitioned for removal after 25 years.
We know of a few who have gotten removed for Romeo and Juliet and some petitioned over some technicality (one was here fewer than 4 days and was not supposed to register in the first place).
Mj,
i understand your frustration,i don’t like this either, but idea’s or thoughts such as these really do not help our cause. they will continue to throw everything including the kitchen sink at us trying to make us fail. instead of trying to get around these draconian laws, we must continue to do what is required and fight this in court with the help of people like Gail and FAC.
when they see that we are truly trying to follow the rules and ARE sane and rational people who just want a 2nd chance, someday maybe someone in power will take notice to all the waste of time, resources and money being spent on this.
however, if you do as you say, you become another statistic, and another reason why they need more stringent laws.
again, I’n not judging you, just trying to give you another point of view
While my first inclination is to tell the probation people to go to hell when I can travel, your advice is the sensible way to approach the problem. We need to continually pound on the system and show the public just how foolish and harmful these’do-gooder’ bureaucrats are.
Let’s give some of those ‘kids’ in Tallahassee some coloring books and crayons to keep them busy so they will not waste everybody’s time with these totally out of touch proposals. They have obviously done no research and just need to ‘get something on the table’ to make them look productive.
also, i am confused by the wording of this , if you read the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES STAFF ANALYSIS report, it states …
“According to FDLE, eighteen sheriffs’ offices have three or more consecutive days where sexual
offender or sexual predator registration is unavailable”
if these 18 counties have 3 or more days where registration is not available, how do you comply with the 3 day rule.. doesn’t this truly encroach on our constitution right to freedom of travel by telling us we can ONLY travel when the registration office is open??
Excellent POINT!!!
Please cc [email protected] on your emails to the legislators. If we have to sue over this we want to make sure this was raised.
Duval County SO was closed from December 22nd to the 27th, would they rather have the registration office open on the weekends or on Christmas?
From what I understand, I think you just need to report to the county sheriff that your going to be in, not change and then re-change your address on your DL. I guess we really need clarification on this, if there’s any Attorney’s that are on board that can clarify, would really be helpful.
IN STATE:
within 48 hours after any change of the predator’s residence… shall report in person to a driver license office
OUT OF STATE:
A sexual offender who intends to establish a permanent, temporary, or transient residence in another state or jurisdiction other than the State of Florida shall report in person to the sheriff of the county of current residence within 48 hours before the date he or she intends to leave this state to establish residence in another state or jurisdiction or at least 21 days before the date he or she intends to travel if the intended residence of 5 days or more is outside of the United States.
So, I am going to another state for Fri, Sat, Sun, and back on Monday. Do I need to do anything?
how about for those who travel by air?
I travel to nyc about three times a month by air. about 4/5 days each. I report prior to each trip. At this point the sheriffs office merely puts a note in the law enforcement viewed screen not updating the registry itself with a temp address. I also come in to let them know im back. Theybtell me i dont need to. Its sad that they know me this well. I am in that office more than a person on parolle or probation. Its to the point i ask them to update everything even an overnight trip and ask for documentation. How is this not punishment????
it is punishment.
Some people don’t have such flexible employment or they don’t live near their county Sheriff’s office.
In Broward, for example, it’s in the Courthouse in downtown Ft. Lauderdale. A 20 minute drive, $10 for courthouse parking, wait in line (which could be minutes or hours) and a 20 minute drive back for me. They are not open before-hours, after hours or lunchtime, where I could work through lunch and take an extra hour at the beginning or end of the day. I need to take a half-day off work for this.
This was another great point raised in Snyder by the judge who gave her opinion. Reporting in person all the time for every move is likened to probation. Was never part of Smith V. Doe. If it feels like probation, then it is like a probation, therefore it is punishment.
if this three day thing passes; keep your trip under 72 hours.
If not, you need to go to the registration office
Yet if they show up to address verify you have two shots in 48 hours until they canvass the neighbors and get the afadavit that you reside there. Which rule to i follow????? The local pd or the so dont speak to each other and these silly checks are random and sporadic.
why is it none of these guys ever answer the phones ?? should we just leave a VM asking them to oppose ??.. I’ve never done this befer
Yes – voicemails and emails.
I called on Wed and left a detailed voice mail for them to vote No to this.
I emailed Broxson with a link to this post. Hopefully he’ll see the lack of substance to this measure and help rally to defeat it.
When are they going to tell Book and her daddy that they need to stop wasting the states time and money (and making more needless hassles for law enforcement and the DMV!) and to go find ways to help with the real issues that Florida faces…like corrupt politicians and rich influence peddling lobbyists?
Normal residency for the state of Florida is 6 months. Supposed to get a State DL or ID in 30 days, but not really enforced for people not on the registry.
The Books are crooks and a stain on our state. I don’t see how either this bill or the Miami ordinace can possibly pass the smell test in federal or supreme court challenge.
Why is this federal district so difficult to change when others have done so recently?