Jacksonville police: 2 men arrested for sexual offender violations on Halloween
FAC NOTE: If anyone has contact with these two registrants, please have them contact our legal committee so we can offer our organization’s support.
The Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office said two men were arrested Thursday for sexual offender violations
James Agee had exterior decorations displayed and provided candy. JSO also said Agee was dressed in costume and did not have a sign stating “No Candy or Treats Here.” FAC NOTE: He has a young daughter who he wanted to enjoy the holiday.
John Nelson had his porch light on and no sign stating “No Candy or Treats Here.”
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Halloween: I rely on option 4 (below) and leave for the day. Note (iii) allows for multiunit lighting. As for Christmas, I haven’t ever been bothered by the Sheriff for having lights or a tree. I would like to see the explanation of how Christmas is primarily aimed at children. I’ll bring my priest to the hearing.
This is the ordinance:
Sec. 685.104. – Prohibited Activities for Sexual Offenders and Sexual Predators; Exceptions.
(a)Prohibitions and requirements for Sexual Offenders and Sexual Predators; Exemption.
(1)It is unlawful for any Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator to participate in any practice or event, including, but not limited to, any event related to a nationally or locally recognized holiday or seasonal event, if such practice or event is primarily targeted toward non-familial children.
(2)It is unlawful for any Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator to wear costumes, clothing, make-up, mask or anything that would alter a person’s appearance in the presence of any non-familial child if such altered appearance could or would entice, attract or lure a child to congregate around, or move closer to, that person.
(3)Any person designated a Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator shall:(i)Avoid all Halloween related contact with children;(ii)From 6:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m., on October 31 (or any other day on which Halloween is celebrated) post a sign at his or her residence, including a vessel, or vehicle, stating, “No candy or treats here.” Such signs shall be in letters at least two inches high and shall be legible on the property leased, rented, owned or occupied by the Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator, and clearly visible from the street, waterway, or any property that is open to public access. The signs may be removed after 11:59 p.m. on October 31, or the day on which Halloween is celebrated.(iii)Except for lighting provided on a year-round basis by the owner or manager of a multi-family residential unit for the purpose of security or walkway or hallway illumination, leave all outside residential lighting off during the evening hours after 5:00 p.m. on October 31 (or any other day on which Halloween is celebrated).(iv)Not place or allow any display, including but not limited to displays for any nationally or locally recognized holiday or seasonal event or practice, to be visible from the exterior of any Sexual Offender’s or Sexual Predator’s residence, including a vehicle or vessel, or on any property which is leased, rented, owned or occupied by such person, if such display is primarily targeted to entice, attract, or lure a child onto any residence or property, or onto or nearer to any vehicle or vessel rented, owned or occupied by such person. Enforcement of this section shall not be limited to the actual calendar date of any given nationally or locally recognized holiday or seasonal event or practice.
(4)The following is a list of exemptions for Sexual Offenders or Sexual Predators from this section. During any nationally or locally recognized holiday or seasonal event or practice:(i)The Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator may attend if such person is the parent or guardian of the child or children involved and only those familial children are present;(ii)The Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator may attend if the event is held in a location such as a personal residence which would not be attracting or enticing to non-familial children to attend (prohibited locations include, but are not limited to family gatherings in parks, pools, or other locations or places where children could be lured); or(iii)The Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator is not present at the event location although such location may be owned, leased, rented or occupied by such person.
Punishments: arrest, a fine not exceeding $500.00 for each occurrence, or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding 60 days or by both a fine and imprisonment for each occurrence, unless prohibited by law.
People in Duval keep saying that you cannot have a Christmas tree inside your home because of the lights, but the ordinance states: “…primarily targeted to entice, attract, or lure a child onto any residence.” No one puts up a Christmas tree inside of their home to lure a child because that tree simply does not lure a child. Are you sure you cannot “legally” put up a tree inside your resisdence?
Sarah, You can have a tree in the home as long as it’s not visible from the outside. My husband and I just invested in some new wooden blinds for our front windows just for this reason. We went through this debacle last year(we had decorated the outside of the housegasp), hell, I couldn’t even have candles in the windows. The only consolation(if you want to call it that) was we were told we could decorate in our backyard as long as none of the neighbors could see it(yea right)
You are doing the right thing, but I feel the ordinance could be challenged on its vagueness, which would cost too much money for most of us. No one in their right mind would say that a few Christmas lights being shown in a window are put there to lure children, and they do not specifically ban Christmas tree lights within a home in the ordinance. I think that the authorities are “reading” way too much into this ordinance.
Thank you, Andrea, for sharing how your family makes all of this work. Your attitude concerning this matter is an example for all us to follow. Thanks for letting me vent a little.
“ (2)It is unlawful for any Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator to wear costumes, clothing, make-up, mask or anything that would alter a person’s appearance…”
Unless you’re a convicted armed robber who MIGHT want to hold up a local convenience store/gas station. Then, by all means – have at it!
FAC,
Is there any way possible FAC could set up a separate fund to mount a court challenge to this ordinance? I know it takes money, but I can’t imagine it costing anywhere near what a state law challenge costs.
JZ – since the ordinance only covers one county, perhaps we can get the county coordinator to put together a group of registrants interested in funding. If we put up a separate subaccount for a challenge that only impacts one county out of 67, I expect we’ll promote another challenge that will sit underfunded for years. I don’t want to do that.
If we can get ahold of the persons just arrested under it and encourage them to challenge their charges through the PD’s office, we can offer support and the lawsuit costs ZERO.
Duval is not the only county with such an ordinance. A win there will ripple to other Florida counties that have it or are thinking about it.
OK – since our members are asking for it, I’m looking into it.
If FAC puts one up, I’ll donate $100.00 to kick it off. I’ll also continue monthly (at a lower contibution level, based on my financial ability).
This will not reduce my current donation to any other challenge prior to its full funding.
Anyone else on board?
I will do the same.
I can give some money. I do worry, though, that there just are not enough of us to make it work. Registrants in other counties are not going to be able to donate for the causes in Duval because they have so many problems in their own counties.
How I wish that the $55/day that my husband and I will have to pay for his currant incarceration of 24 months could go instead to the FAC lawsuits. I know for you guys the incarceration is a thing of the past that you probably do not want to be reminded of, but this article was in the Jacksonville Florida Times Union this morning, written by The Washington Post Magazine:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/10/28/prisons-jails-are-designed-men-can-we-build-better-womens-prison/?arc404=true
This article is too lengthy — but the first eleven paragraphs every citizen in this nation should know. The same things are happening in Florida. I look at what happened in our Clay County jail this past year and the women’s prison in south Florida that has been exposed for what some male guards were doing.
To me, the money that we are going to have to give FDOC is funding modern-day dungeons with some of them being involuntary strip clubs for the viewing pleasure of certain male guards. Just this past spring, our legislature had to pass a bill that female prisoners had the right to be given personal hygiene items and not to have to ask for them from male guards. Why in 2019 would we even have to have such a law — this should all be a “given”. Yet none of these guards are arrested and put on the registry for viewing captive women inappropriately. Where is the me-too movement in all of this? (Just for clarification, I am not a supporter of the me-too movement.) It is all about punishment without any rehabilitation. One prison staff member told a friend of mind that our Florida prisons are just a revolving door that no one really wants to stop because more warm bodies means more money for FDOC. I know the private prisons do not want the status quo to change.
So sorry for getting off on all of this. Back on track here, I would love to see these punitive holiday ordnances done away with in Duval County.
My fiance of whom email im using at this moment is currently incarcerated AGAIN. He was already on community control as well as continued probation for 48 months. 19 months in.. 5 months from being off the monitor atleast he gets arrested fora technical violation. A A violation that apparently was harsh enough to deny a bond. Oh wait… Yeh he was simply denied a bond becasue of his status. I am disabled. And his we have custody of his son now. I was served with a 3 day eviction notice 2 days ago.. Im trying to sell all our material items to help pay bills.. Oh and did i mention hes been in there a month now and has yet to see a public defender… We filed an emergency bond hearing… Yet i keep getting the run around. He has a family. And his orginal SO charge was from 1995.. He has only had 2 jobs in past 18 years. I dont know what to do..
It’s too bad that law enforcement can’t keep real criminals off the streets, but have no problem keeping RSO’s out of their homes and away from their families and family responsibilities. Is there anything that these law enforcement officials can be proud of? They need to hang their heads in shame.
It is a great idea but we are trying to get something going based on emotional roll coaster. Some of us can’t do three donation sat one time. I barely can do two which are EX Post Facto plus and Out of State Challenge. These are great ideas but where is all the funds going to come from? The out of state challenge has been moving at a snail pace and just sitting there on the shelf. I would to see this crap end up in court and egg on the peoples faces when see they they can’t do this to us.
But once again where the money coming from? I have to agree with F.A.C on this one let their Attorneys fight it They have better funds and resources I don’t want to be the bad guy here but unless they decide to fight there really to much any of can to with this craziness! I don’t want to sound like because your not helping on the out of state fund than I not going to help you. This is not the case. You can not fight a three front war…..Ask Germany if u could, I just saying having to many cooks for dish and you burn out the dish
Not looking to dilute the important Out-of-State Challenge. Just hopping mad about what our counties are doing to innocent families. Ideally, if these two have attorneys, then FAC could guide those attorneys. But they appear not to even have representation.
It would be worthwhile for FAC Legal to look into what it would cost and how challenging a challenge it would be. And if it won’t dilute the others, then move forward. Sometimes more challenges raise more money.
Already on this. Join our monthly member call this Thursday for an update.
I know it’s hard for many of us to donate. It certainly is for me. The good news is, as far as I know, there are no mandatory minimums when it comes to donating to FAC. Just do what you can where it matters the most to you. Every dollar counts!
I hope I did not hurt anybody feelings. I just stating my thoughts We don’t even have the post factor relief paid off. I ask everyone to take a break from this angry issues of the stamped id and holiday items.
Jacob is right. In my own county, that is one of the things I pointed out to our county commissioners in their drive to extend the residency restrictions to 2000 feet. I mentioned in my email that courts are slowly starting to rule in favor of registrants as judges are becoming more aware of the punitive nature of these ordinances. I encouraged our commissioners to google what happened in Palm Beach County after a lawsuit was brought against that county because of their punitive resisdency restrictions.
The Jacksonville ordinance that is being questioned is different from the one we are dealing with in Clay County, but it is also punitive. I know that if there is ever a time when county after county and municipality after municipality have lawsuits staring at them and then lose, other counties will start to make some changes. Just look at what the attorney for Palm Beach County told her county, plus the municipalities which she has no authority over.
With all that said, I know FAC cannot do more than it is already doing. But your expertise is great — encouraging these two men to challenge their charges through the PD’s office and letting them know there is some support. I would have had no idea that anything could be done to help them.
Some of you guys out there are so good at finding laws, court decisions, and other very helpful data — an area that I am very weak in. Please, please, can someone find the exact addresses for these two men? The News4Jax article stated that James Agee resides at Challeux Drive South in East Arlington and John Nelson resides at Nicholas Circle East in Spring Park. If I could get their street numbers and zip codes, I would mail a letter to each one today, and they should receive it by tomorrow, letting them know about the support available to them. I could drive to their homes instead, if people think that is a better idea.
This is of great interest to me. We live in Clay County but are only 1.25 miles from the Duval County line.
Thank you guys for all of your help. I could never do any of this on my own.
Sarah, go to the FDLE website, it lists the name and full address with zip code. I too had considered correspondence, I may still do that. I wouldn’t show up at their residence unannounced though, I personally would be suspicious of anyone coming to my door. Good luck in your endeavor.
Thank you, Andrea. So I have finally found one, but only one, good thing about the registry — it gave me the addresses for these two gentlemen. The Lord willing, I will have letters in the mail today to these two men.
Their letters have been mailed. I also encouraged them to join FAC, explained about the Ex-Post Facto and In-Person Challenge lawsuits that could benefit both of them, and let them know about our monthly conference call this Thursday evening.
Mr. Agee may be found at 10948 Challeux Dr S, Jacksonville, FL 32225, according to the public registry.
I see that Mr. Nelson is publicly registered at 2516 Nicholas Circle E, Jacksonville FL 32207-4751
Both appear to have stayed crime-free for decades. I don’t know whether they’re entitled to PD if their ordinance violations were misdemeanors. And I see from Barb S’s research they have been unrepresented. Please, let’s do what we can.
Even though not all of are challenges are fully funded, sometimes an incident like this spurs interest in yet another challenge.
Thank you so much, Exact Addresses, for this information. It is very helpful. Working together like this as a team, we might be amazed down the road what can be accomplished. It is as FAC always says, there is power in numbers.
Funny a gentleman that made the same ex post facto violation as me that made the papers I tracked him down today and had a nice discussion. He happens also a member on here. All you gotta do get their address the. Google the address you’ll likely find a phone number.
Thank you, Doe. I will give that a try.
That’s a great idea! So the arrested parties can file a lawsuit now through the PDs office? Didnt know that. Should be easy to get a hold of their families since both guys info and addresses are on the registry
I have mailed both men, but if anyone else wants to contact them, it will help to show our support.
So about porch lights: For those of us who live on a million dollar property with 10 feet of stone stairs, where is the love for my 68 year old housemate who must turn off the $1000 worth of landscaping lights and cary groceries without use of handrail as he must hold a flashlight. If he trippedb whose fault is it?
Roger, good points. I’ve also thought about situations where a RC lives in a condo complex that controls the outside lights and/outside decorations without any control by the RC. What then? Probably 60 days in jail.
That would be considered common areas that would be out of the control of the offender. I guess people on the offender task force could care less, a win for them.
Although that doesn’t mean the judge wouldn’t be a jerk but any attorney with half a brain could get that dismissed. Sadly, all these BS arrests for things that are out of our control end up running us out of money.
They want us to behave and stay out of trouble but then play with us like we are mice in an experiment, throwing more and more obstacles in our way to see of we screw up.
@Roger and Bill,
The ordinance actually has an exception for such a situation:
“(3) (iii) Except for lighting provided on a year-round basis by the owner or manager of a multi-family residential unit for the purpose of security or walkway or hallway illumination, leave all outside residential lighting off during the evening hours after 5:00 p.m. on October 31 (or any other day on which Halloween is celebrated).”
https://library.municode.com/fl/jacksonville/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TITXIXPUSA_CH685SEOFSEPRRE_S685.104PRACSEOFSEPREX
It would be the fault of the criminal regime and it would be great to sue them for damages.
And speaking of which, somewhat unrelated, but when F.A.C. or another organization wins a lawsuit, why are they not always awarded the costs and damages? When private citizens have to pay money to fight off the crimes of these criminal regimes, they should be compensated.
You likely all saw though that even the criminal sheriff of Butts County, GA that recently lost his criminal case was not forced to reimburse the attorney (or NARSOL) for their crimes. It’s wrong.
On the flip side, if an individual sues and loses, should that person be forced to pay? I don’t think so. Because individuals can’t be faulted for trying to protect themselves from the criminal regimes. Further, the courts belong to the criminal regimes so it is their duty to understand early, if needed, if a lawsuit has no merit and dismiss it with little cost. If something has to be fought, then there is some merit to it.
Morgan and Morgan will figure that one out!
I feel this is real issues to address. Before People get their feathers ruffled. I am an Ex Christian,who has been treated better by other people’s religion beliefs. I going to defend this statement. What if a Wicca person or Native American person or Jewish person like Andrea mention would be denied to celebrate their Religion Holiday? Isn’t this a 1st Amendment violation.
If the lawmakers want to argue about the Registry being Civil or Administratation in nature So why the criminal penalties for civil infactions?Perhaps there are those who don’t pay D.U.I fines or Child support aren’t jailed for violating the same civil code of conduct.
I am a very strong Christian and even a graduate of Bible college. I do have to agree, I often times feel more love from non Christians as well. Having said that, they, we and all of us are fist human beings and make mistake and can act crappy towards others.
Christians are not perfect although some think they are. I for sure am far from perfect and try each day to be a better person but if you set the bar too high, you are destined to fail. That is where forgiveness comes in. That does not mean a blank check to do wrong and expect forgiveness.
And I concur, even if I do not agree with another’s religion, I feel they should have the same rights to practice their beliefs as I do. God never forces Himself on anyone and allows us to choose our own path as forced love is not love at all.
Having said that, I choose not to participate in the Halloween, not because of my beliefs. Not because of law enforcement ( I am under no holiday restrictions ) . I do not want to invite trouble here so I act like I am under that restriction to avoid trouble. If I had grandkids, I guess I would take them to a party somewhere to get their candy fix on.
beefstew327, I will pray that you return to the fold. There is no hope on the outside. It is my Christian faith and friends that make this life worth living. Remember, there are those who believe in God, and those who believe that they believe in God. I call that second category “Cross on a necklace Christian”. If a person mistreats you and does not express love and forgiveness, you can know that they are one of the cross on a necklace types. You know them by their ‘fruits’. May God reveal Himself to you through true Christians you come in contact with.
I live in Jax. The only thing those 2 violated was a county ordinance. Of course, there’s no state law against any holiday related activity. Duval county also has an ordinance prohibiting SOs from having Christmas, yes Christmas decorations visible outside or from inside the house. Duval is pretty sensible, but lately they’ve gotten stupid about technical stuff like this. I always thought this ordinance could be fought on the grounds of infringing on our rights of religious freedom and expression. As a Christian, I want to celebrate Christmas and have the right to do so since it is a Christian holiday. Same for Easter. Concerning Halloween, if I’m a wiccan, then I can argue it’s a religious holiday for me. So silly and unnecessary. Just an insane law to keep politicians and cops jobs intact and providing click bait stories for news channels locally. Nothing is gonna stop this insanity. Its like trying to clear all the world’s beaches of sand. It’s an impossible challenge to overcome. ….I know that sounds defeatist, but were trying to fight public perception, news propaganda, politicians, idiot sheriffs, and clueless cops. All of those entities have lots of money and power backing them. Game over for us.
I too have had this very thought, how does this not violate our first amendment rights regarding freedom of religion? If we wanted to put a nativity scene in my yard, or if we were Jewish, and wanted to place a menorah in the window, these very things would be grounds for my husband to be arrested. Don’t despair though, the tide is slowly turning when it come to public opinion, and honestly, until this past year, law enforcement hasn’t been an issue.(for us anyway) It wasn’t until we moved two years ago and landed in the jurisdiction of a female detective with a axe to grind that we’ve had any problems. Ihonestly think most leo’s know they have bigger fish to fry, and think this is all nonsense as well.
Andrea….
Do you live in Jacksonville?? If so, I think I know the female detective you’re talking about. But yes, for the most part the police in Jax know they have bigger issues to focus on and I’ve never had a problem.
For me, I don’t participate in Halloween regardless if I was an RSO or not. For one, I’m single with no kids so there’s no point. But there’s the interesting dilemma of church related “festivals” . My church had theirs on Oct. 30, not Oct. 31 and it wasnt billed technically as a Halloween event so I could’ve gone and helped out and technically not have violated Duvals stupid ordinance.
But for me, the best approach for now is to just avoid anything Halloween related unless it’s an all adult function like a work party, etc… they cant violate you for that. ….but I’ll be damned if they stop me from any Christmas related activities. And I’ll decorate it the tee whatever I want. My landlord put up all white lights for Christmas one year and he told the probation officer its “security lighting”. Lol.
I’d be curious to know if Ron Crook is behind getting these ordinances started too…
But I feel for those guys, but they should’ve known they were taking a risk. It takes 30 seconds to type up the sign and post it on your door and turn your lights off. I know the guy had a kid, but passing out candy and wearing a costume???? Cmon now. Until this stupid sh*t gets overturned, you gotta be smart and vigilant. But hey, they took a gamble that they wouldn’t get caught, and they lost. But at least they lived on the edge for a few hours lol.
MJ – people will have differing opinions about this based on their current life situation. Imagine you did have children, Halloween is huge for them! The dressing up, the going around collecting candy, etc. Same for those who celebrate Christmas. The family celebrations, the decorations, etc. It’s all part of the childhood experience that creates meaningful memories that no child should be deprived of. For those who do have children, imagine they can’t put out a pumpkin or spooky decorations. Imagine all the other children are excited about trick-or-treating or what they will dress up as, but your children can’t because you’re not allowed to take them out and are forced to stay indoors with the lights off while their neighborhood friends are looking at your house.
Many of us could care less about the holiday, but to our children, this is the most important thing in the world at their ages. To be deprived of any rite of passage, religious or otherwise, because their parent did something wrong 20 years ago, is cruel.
Some of us might not care about vehicle registrations because we don’t drive. Some of us might not care about travel restrictions, because we don’t travel. Others might not care about holiday decorations… but I guarantee if not already there will be a registration restriction that one day impacts you, your family, your employment options or some other aspect of your life very deeply and you will desperately want as many resources behind the fight as possible!
I’m fully aware of all of what you said. All of it needs to be addressed and challenged as much as necessary. My point was, and that I feel like I clearly stated, was that as it stands now, those 2 guys were aware of Duvals ordinance and I’m just saying if you’re gonna go against them, you gotta be smart about it and just know if you roll the dice on it, there’s a chance you’re gonna get busted. But I actually give kudos to the one guy that went all out for his kid. He obviously says screw you to the ordinance and unfortunately now hes paying for it. He fought the law, and the law won as they say. I feel for him. But the other guy just simply didnt put a sign on his door nor turn the lights off at 5. Something very minor that I wouldn’t risk going to jail for…..
So I’ll say it again, I understand how big it is to kids and the parents of those kids. But as an RSO, I’ve learned, as we all have im sure, that you gotta be aware of the can and cannots in your county and just steer clear of anything that could get you hemmed up….
My suggestion to the guy with the kid would’ve been to take all the decorations down on Oct 30, put the sign on his door and turn off his lights at his home and take his kid with his wife and who ever else trick or treating on the other side of town or something where he can lay low but still enjoy Halloween with his kid. ….
There’s always a way around things to where you can still get your way and steer clear of any trouble. I know that view is not supported by most on here but its not wrong and it helps in allowing us to enjoy life a little bit in spite of all they try to do to ruin it for us. Be blessed.
And I’m impacted by everything you mentioned, even the damn Halloween Duval ordinance because I still have to type and print and post that stupid sign before I head off to work and make sure my roommates turn the lights off at 6. So I’m impacted trust me and I’m grateful for any and all resources that can be used to fight this garbage
FAC, you are so right on. We don’t have to celebrate anything or we may want to celebrate everything. It’s a matter of personal choice. As long as a person is not harming anyone else or contributing to a dangerous situation, we have the freedom to do as we please guaranteed by the Constitution. Unfortunately we have politicians who are just not pleased unless they can be condemning someone. Children are not children forever and they need to have parental involvement in their young lives. We need to keep up the fight until common sense and justice has charge of the day. Children will carry into adulthood both the bad and good experiences. To try to limit the ‘good’ is a miscarriage of what might appear to be good intentions.
What’s wrong with a law that deprives RSOs’ children of holidays?
After all, our CHILDREN are at stake!
Don’t we want to protect the children?
(Sorry, couldn’t resist).
Nope. Children don’t matter unless they can be used as pawns by the harassers.
We know Registries gravely harm children. We know they’ve gotten some murdered. Registry Nazis/Terrorists don’t care. What they care about is how they feel.
I get what you’re saying, but at the same time neither the county, or the state, is diligent at all in making sure RSO’s are up to date on new ordinances. That detective (Collins is her last name) basically told us it’s not their problem, or responsibility to make sure we are aware of changes. It also seems to be dependent on the mood of said detectives, because we didn’t have a sign out this year about no candy, just a no tresspassing sign on our locked gate at the end of our driveway (I didn’t know about the signs either until this story broke) We chalked this up to we got lucky and won’t forget next year. As far as your situation with the Christmas lighting, there’s an exception for that because of where you live, but you’d better hope your tree isn’t at all visible from the outside, or they will violate you.(unless you’re lucky enough to have a reasonable detective who does your “address verification”)
Andrea—that is exactly who comes out to my place too! She was in a good mood during her verification this year, but you’re right, she can be a you know what. And they will claim that by just giving us that piece of paper with all the do’s and don’ts on it, that we should know EXACTLY what all that mumbo jumbo is saying. You have to have a frickin law degree just to understand what you’re supposed to do. It’s all by design though. They need us to justify their jobs and give them job security as long as they live. That’s all this is.
**And I just put a tree up in my room at the house and have Christmas lights strung up all around my room. (Which I just kept up all year because it provides good lighting in the room lol). So yeah, even though Duval has their stupid rules, I just steer clear of stuff like that, mind my own business, and live my life. No worries.
But if you catch Collins on a good day, she will answer your questions in a detailed manner and can actually be very helpful. It’s all in your approach with her. Just some advice. Good luck.
Well, at least I know that someone has had a reasonable exchange with her. She is just plain rude and condescending, and somewhat patronizing towards us, and if I know she’s coming around, I leave because I’m honestly afraid I’m going to lose my cool with her one day, and jeapordize my husband’s freedom. I hope your Christmas decor is a success, and perhaps one day we can get these assinine rules overturned and go back to just living our lives like everybody else.
I say this again I guess it is better to pick low hanging fruit than to go after what is more riper. I guess Jacksonville police solved the other crimes like the murders,carjackers,drug dealers and gang-related crimes because the news never report this at but more important stuff Like “Candy Bandits” (lol Cherokee JacK) and porch lights violations
🙂 Glad I could input some humor into an otherwise sad situation