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Going onto the https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights declaration page they list 30 articles that are supposed to apply to every person. No one shall be subject to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. (Article 9) Most notably that everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state. (Article 13) Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than one that was applicable at the time the penal offense was committed (Article 11b). Also, everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for health and well-being, including housing (Article 25). Everyone has the right freely to participate in the culture life of the community ( Article 27) All of these the state of Florida grossly tramples our universal rights, so where is our remedy?
Local ordinances serve no purpose but to zone us out thru residency restrictions (https://scholarship.law.ufl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1916&context=flr ). You the local system, the local council who continually push or more and burdens placed upon us in the form of exile, which is forbidden and it shows when half the town is off limits to live in. Forcing us into smaller and smaller clusters. Many times, these restrictions create homelessness and now they have a lower quality of standard living and there is no other correlation than being on the sex offender registry in Florida. The states response would be just move out of Florida which again is in contrast Article 13 that I have the right to freedom of movement and residence within the state. Seems the United Nations also care about ex-post facto punishment in Article 11, but the State of Florida continually increases the reporting requirements associated with the registry many effecting Article 27 as well think Holidays. And all of this falls under Article 11b Ex post Facto. Enough is enough
Eugene V. Debs >>> Don’t worry my friend, I’m just about ready to pounce on FDLE. My ducks are in a straight line right into the proof that even with “Due Process” this has now become an extension of punishment under NJ state and 3rd cir. court rulings of the Due Process clause because I was convicted criminally before the VCC. I challenged the Prosecutor after July 25, 1995 John Doe v. Poritz Due Process ruling and had a Civil Tier Level 1 Judgement before May 17, 1996 Federal Amendment. THEN >>> Lets go Federal – E.B. v. Verniero Argued October 21, 1996 – Opinion August 20, 1997 The Court held the due process clause under the State and Federal Constitution laws require a judicial hearing before public notification may take place. I want to know what LAW gives FDLE the right to exceed a court judgement making my conviction public record?! Come Oct. 31 I will be refusing to register. Shit is gonna hit the fan if they don’t work to resolve this before then.
[The Moderator reminds all members subject to Section 943.0435 of the Florida Statutes, to remain in compliance with the law].
I wish you the best, I would brainstorm with a legal firm and see how you can try to go forward your case while remaining compliant with law.
Eugene V. Debs >>> I seem to be turned away from every law firm I have contacted when they see how bad it will be. Unless I have been arrested they don’t want to know. I’ve called 39 Civil Rights attorney’s in Fl an not one bite. I have 3 in NJ who are waiting to shred New Jersey’s Megans Law which will make the Feds look hard at theirs after I prove FDLE was not to make it public record making it an extension of punishment.
[The Moderator reminds all members subject to Section 943.0435 of the Florida Statutes, to remain in compliance with the law]. Yes for sure please remain in compliance as I’m for Constitutional laws 100%. I’m trying to get this resolved before then also but if it isn’t I will be forced to refuse as it is violating my Civil Rights as an American. Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on the bus for civil rights in this country I will be refusing also as I may have a good shot of proving all the way to the USSC this is an extension of punishment. All I ask is for the million on the Registry to stand behind me.
http://www.northescambia.com/2023/09/century-man-gets-probation-for-trying-to-run-over-man-he-thought-was-convicted-sex-offender
Probation really? so now we need to worry about copycat crimes.
Received a call labeled “Potential Spam” by my phone provider right at 9:00 P.M. The number was 850-407-7222. I screened the call with Google and asked for more information. They “said” 217-933. I “asked” why they were calling. They rep-lied “status.” I asked who was calling and they rep-lied “police.” I hung up, reported the call as spam and blocked the number.
Win in Ohio which is in the 6th court of appeals which includes Tennessee and Michigan. Anyway a man got convicted of a crime in Kentucky he had to register for 15 years, state said his time had to restart upon moving to the state, court said no it doesn’t. So now we have on state Indiana saying your time restarts which is in the 7th and this new Ohio case. So now we have two different interpretations of the law. https://www.courtnewsohio.gov/cases/2023/SCO/0831/220782.asp
[The Moderator observes that this case is from state supreme court rather than the Federal court of appeals for the 6th circuit. A welcome decision nonetheless].
Sorry mod. I was jumping the gun, I was just saying the state is more than welcome to appeal it to the 6th, which ruled in Doe vs Snyder ( maybe this case doesn’t cover this) in our favor. So the state would have an uphill battle.
Eugene V. Debs, Yes a much needed win that’s for sure. It’s about to get real here soon. If they push ( FDLE ) against the ( FBI ) then I think your gonna see some fireworks. I will be refusing to register in the month of October. This will start a chain reaction they cant stop. See the original law Megans Law is founded on that it is not an extension of punishment. Well we will now put a name to Doe vs Poritz in New Jersey where this whole thing started. “DAY” Allah Day… The NJSC ruling stated “Even though it is not an extension of punishment you must provide these men DUE PROCESS” Well it became an extension of punishment even after having Due Process caused by Law Enforcement of the state of Florida. See I have an actual civil judgement that many people don’t have. I was convicted on 2/19/93 before these laws. NJ used the civil side of the act to enforce registration on people who were convicted before Constitutional Laws. Now Florida is using Constitutional Law to enforce that they had the right to make my Tier Level 1 public record by their laws. This is why 39 Civil Rights Attorney’s in Florida refused to even listen to this. It’s a case that could bring the whole thing down because it proves the law is an extension of punishment.
[The moderator reminds all members to comply with all applicable registration laws].
https://www.themainewire.com/2023/08/nearly-half-of-maine-sex-offenders-released-between-2005-and-2019-offended-again-usm-report/
Fine print on page 36 only 3 percent committed another sex offense
Comments on this grossly misleading article are open at bottom.
I made a comment about this terrible piece of “journalism” I encourage others to do the same and also reach out to the site itself and call out this horribly misleading article.
The Florida States Constitution guarantees section 10; that no bill of attainder, ex post facto or law impairing the obligation of contracts shall be passed.
A bill of attainder definition according to law.cornell.edu- “A bill of attainder is a piece of legislation that declares a party guilty of a crime. Bills of attainder allow the government to punish a party for a perceived crime without first going through the trail process” Courts have adopted a three-part test to determine if a law functions as a bill of attainder
1.) The law inflicts punishment
2.) The law targets specific named identifiable groups
3.) Those individuals or group would otherwise have judicial protections.
In Nixion v. Adm’r of general serves the court determined that punishment for the purpose of bill of attainder will be determined by considering:
1.) Whether the statue would historically be viewed as punitive.
2.) Whether the statue viewed in terms of burdens and severity, can reasonably be said to further non-punitive purposes.
3.) Was that a congressional intent for the statue.
I believe the congressional intent for living restrictions placed on people who committed a sexual offense were to restrict were people convicted of a sex offense from living from them a certain distance that they felt would be safe. To so called have a buffer around certain areas around the community that were off limits to people on the registry were children are known to congregate or frequent. I’m sure they would say that I am correct in their intent.
However, over the years this safe zone as increased from a state asked 1,000 feet to many local municipalizes, local ordinance and counties enacting 2,500-foot exclusion zones that now encompass more than most of the cities now have become effectively off limits to live in. While I’m sure they will say that they are doing it to protect the children. The obvious effects can be seen. Many registrants are barred from living with their support groups because it is located to close to a bus stop, church, daycare, school, etc.
Studies have shown that almost all people convicted for a hands-on offense knew their victim, also 95 percent of registrants do not go on to re-offended. How do living restrictions help the community if both of these are true it creates a false sense of security that makes people feel safe. This creates more of these unrealistic feel-good laws that don’t actually do anything except disguise the punishment that the laws enact. So, we have this all-encompassing ever expanding black hole where land is virtually off limits to live in. Many are arrested about lying where they live. Image that in jail for living in an area off limits. Sounds a lot like banishment, which exactly what living restrictions amount to. Historically living restrictions were aimed marginalized populations throughout the history of the United States. From Indians to African Americans, Jews etc. The restrictions that we face are no different than what they faced in the past.
You have many state legislatures saying they don’t want them in their community in the state legislature meeting this year, they made it blatantly clear what their intent is they want to feel safe and by doing that is through ever increasing restraints such as living distances. However, under Florida Statues 350.05 oath of office, before entering upon duties of his or her office each commissioner shall describe the following oath “Before entering upon the duties of his or her office each commissioner shall subscribe to the following oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, protect and defend the Constitution and Government of the United States and of the State of Florida; that I am qualified to hold office under the constitution of the state, and that I will well and faithfully perform at all times the duties of Florida Public Service Commissioner, on which I am now about to enter in a professional, independent, objective, and nonpartisan manner…”
So here we have the underline what they are supposed to do when elected to the Florida Senate. And, you have documented case after case where they push scientific studies aside to vote on objective feelings which is against the oath that they sworn to pledge.
So, in my mind all three prongs are meet in a bill of attainder We have seen living area used throughout history as the undesirable areas of town and exclusion zones, the second part if whether the statue viewed in terms of burdens and severity, can reasonably be said to further non-punitive purposes which when almost all of the people are not on the registry at the time of their offense and almost all the people on the registry remain crime free its safe to say it doesn’t. And last you have numerous politicians who openly say they want to pass these laws because they want their communities to feel safe when case study after case study shows residency restrictions due the opposite of this. They are supposed to enter the senate with being objective but as you can see, they openly scoff at the facts. I believe a bill of attainder lawsuit may be the way forward to get rid of residency restrictions. The residency restrictions only force you further and further out of the community, how can you not see the punitive intent? Has anyone know if a lawsuit has been tried with bill of attainder and residency restrictions?
sorry its so long but it looks like it describes our situation pretty well
Why is no one talking about the hurricane in the room? It’s coming in less than 48 hours. Shelters anyone?
Yeah, and I bet PFRs will not be allowed to take shelter in public shelters.
Never have been allowed in public shelters before. But shady Grady made sure to say if you were caught trying to go to one you would be arrested and that he opened the county jail as a shelter for us
Is arresting us for seeking shelter legal? I realize they need no excuse to arrest us, but is it literally against the law for us to go to a shelter? Would it be a county-by-county issue?
Shady Grady’s thinking is there are children there so we are not sure to be period. He got a lot of flack about it that was when he opened the jail up for us to shelter there. He found out that people change they’re attitudes when it comes to emergency situations when people were saying we had a right to be safe in a natural disaster like everyone else
It was during hurricane Irma if anyone wants to look it up
For we all offend in many ways and we all stumble. I’m sure police stumble or is everyone perfect. All Advocacy is good if the direction can make a difference or should all sex offenders say they were robbed or cheated in many ways.
Yes many were robbed, cheated, persuaded ,enticed, lead astray, etc in many ways. Many authorities don’t even understand what the two edged sword of Justice is all about which is the supreme truth. Much all of this sex registry is an internet based deception by authorities and cast many into homelessness, tarnish reputations, and are callous actions by police and government. Are authorities self-centered with the power that be.
Remember we wrestle not with flesh and blood… Actions speak louder than words. Calling out authorities on this registry ruse is a plus. Lets put an end to all this internet registry garbage. Even the deceptive nature is vain in principal and I’m sure many would agree.
Another article https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/sex-offender-registry-meant-to-inform-public-not-target-offenders-officials-say/
Showing the downside of the registry.
They’re still clinging to the “not meant to punishment” lie. Champagne does a good job at playing dumb brushing aside those pesky side-effects of the registry being an actual hit less while defending the “merits” that will never work to promote public safety.
I see the same tired and debunked talking points they continue to use over and over.
I was just looking for some info that was on the site of Megans Law Foundation an it was no longer up. Rome is about to burn or maybe Atlanta. It was a good run destroying countless lives but it’s now showing to be unconstitutional in some places while others are getting worse.
Eugene V. Debs That was a good article because it shows what they call low level or Tier level 1 where Florida only have Level 2 or 3. They make everyone public record where some of us have Judgements of Registry Only – Not For Public Notification.
While no news is good news it would seems everyone is talking about punishment. Getting the registry banned would be to the good of true justice so is it is the right for authorities to rebuke and punish evil doers? Will authorities admit they are doing evil themselves? These plea deals are they a type of passing the buck or a saving face for those that compound and mislead others in immoral ways. Someone has to be leading.
One would hope the wording is still correct: judge not or you will be judged is still alive and well in America but with this sex registry issue it seems to be a battle of dark and light.
Interesting article https://www.wpbf.com/amp/article/florida-pop-warner-league-in-jeopardy-due-to-athletic-directors-sexual-offender-past/44871062
Former NFL player and current registrant who oversees Pop Warner program in jeopardy
Fake DNA scam don’t fall for it. Just called
[The moderator has removed the telephone number in case it is an innocent person’s number that is being spoofed]
Does anyone have experience, while on probation, getting Hawaii to accept their request to go there for vacation, a week?
My “brother” is on probation. His probation officer some out once a month for about 1-2 minutes,maybe every other month he will come out an extra time. But he has completed 80% of this probation but they wont let him off. The POs have no vested interest in recommending release or even helping(job security). But in his experience they are honest(they are not fabricating stuff to violate you, which would be easy to do) but they are lazy. What I would like to see done is making probation officers work more, ie have to make contact once a week. This would give them a reason to lighten their case load. I would make it harder in the beginning but help in the end. Any thoughts??
That could be a double edged sword. It may give them a reason to try to lighten they’re case load but it could go the other way and make the few honest officers start violating for minor or made up reasons. You must remember most of the rules are up to the interpretations of each officer. For instance you may not drink alcohol to excess. I asked one officer they said as long as your not causing any trouble your not in excess another said if he smells it or can detect that you have been drinking in any way then you are in excess . And the way Floriduh does things instead they would say they need more officers to get more funding ( don’t give them any ideas ! Lol)
Why would you rock the boat? Me po was very real with me the whole time. Hard at first and I actually finished on a Saturday and he called me to cut the ankle monitor off instead of waiting until Monday. If they aren’t riding your ass trying to send you to prison, don’t mess with it.
Speaking from my experience, if you have completed more than fifty percent of probation, you can petition to have probation terminated. Contact your attorney as they can help navigate the process. There were caveats to pulling this off, such as completed other requirements for probation, but my lawyer and I went before the judge and he terminated my probation. It’s not easy, and not a guarantee. My lawyer was mildly surprised by the positive decision on the first time . Good luck.
The less contact the better. If you are doing everything right. Stay under that radar. Mine tried to violate me because I went to a store to buy a swing for my daughters. The whole family was there and the victim happened to work there. Like how was I supposed to know. It was about a year before the end of my 10 year stretch. Also I did go back at 50% court date set so we went and it was like a week after John Cuey. I got denied. I did end up getting off about a month early.
Each case is different. I all the right things and didn’t cause headaches for my PO, other than questioning policy decisions that weren’t explicitly part of my probation. I had a good lawyer, a decent judge and was in the middle of Covid pandemic when I went to termination hearing. I certainly agree that you don’t want to antagonize the PO, but I do think that there should be a rational behind arbitrary restrictions.
I wonder why the doe v. SWEARINGEN case in the southern district was postponed by the judge – did he provided a reason ?
7th Circuit https://cases.justia.com/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/22-2435/22-2435-2023-08-16.pdf?ts=1692199820
Ruled that a county (Wisconsin) can have a 6,500 foot zone wtf.
Has anyone relocated to Georgia that can share with me their experience or know of an attorney or someone knowledgeable I can speak to before a relocation.
Best,
Those looking at Georgia might be interested to know that attorney Mark Yurachek was instrumental in eliminating Halloween signs there. He has also spoken to NARSOL members about the GA registration (and de-registration) process. Another GA attorney, Brandon Thomas, discussed the GA registry removal process as a guest on the Registry Matters podcast.
Have you received any information about this? I’ve been saying for the entire time that I was on probation that I would move across the state line once I got off, and I just got released last week.
The video from this attorney is very informative, although, he did make is sound more complicated than I was expecting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EuCggn5Wxc
Different laws for different folks. There are no residency or work restrictions, if committed before a certain date.
However, there are just a few simple things I must provide for my 2002 conviction and only one time a year. I can petition almost immediatley for removal. I have to be classified first.
I should of moved years ago. So far, this is the best thing I’ve ever done.
This is after your relocation to GA from Fl. So basically you will be free in Ga but if you move to NC from GA do you go back in because of Florida. Therein lies the ultimate?
Very true. Only “free” in the state if GA (if released from the obligation to register).
However, what Q said is what I believed to be true. IF you are leveled as a Tier 1, then you can petition for removal immediately, as long as you meet a list of requirements… No minimum 10yr waiting period.
Sounds worth it to me, but I’d like some level of confidence that I could be removed before making the move.
I agree I would keep my house here by a shack just over the GA line and Be free.
This is very disturbing. Jacksonville considering modeling homeless project after crooked “Homeless Trust” in Miami…Ron Book.
The way you fight back is starting with something small. For instance, STOP giving your signature during compliance checks. They always stick that clipboard right under my nose first thing. It even has the “X” prepared with a yellow highlighter.
Just don’t feel pressured, intimidated and bullied into signing it. Just tell them “compliance checks are not an auxiliary function of the registration process.” If you sign it, you’re waving your right of innocence to any wrongdoing. You’re admitting guilt that you’re a threat and need constant monitoring. So, think about that next time they roll up.
If they badger and pressure you, reply back: “There is no sense of urgency or immediacy in any of this as this measure offers zero proactive benefit in lieu of public safety.”
Are PFR’s complying with the request to sign their name on the electronic pads (or whatever method) when re-registering? My registration receipt then shows my signature, agreeing to all of the rules on the receipt. Of course, I didn’t get to read those rules before signing.
https://casetext.com/statute/florida-statutes/title-x-public-officers-employees-and-records/chapter-112-public-officers-and-employees-general-provisions/part-i-conditions-of-employment-retirement-travel-expenses/section-11223-government-directed-content-moderation-of-social-media-platforms-prohibited
(2)A governmental entity may not communicate with a social media platform to request that it remove content or accounts from the social media platform.
(3) A governmental entity may not initiate or maintain any agreements or working relationships with a social media platform for the purpose of content moderation.”
You know they send our email address to these social media platforms that’s in violation of these new rules.
yes it may be but there not doing it for content moderation there escape goat is its for public safty
https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/pinellas-park-sex-offender-camp-residents-told-to-move-by-tuesday/amp/
Where can they go?
Thank you, Eugene, for alerting us about this worsening situation.
Got an odd question and see if anyone has had any experience with this. My brother is on GPS monitoring, his doctor wants him to wear leg braces for a few hours each day. Because this braces and molded to his leg and are custom fit. (imagine a piaster cast and not too far off). But is PO is giving him a hard time. You can not wear the brace and monitor at the same time. They wont allow him to remove the GPS. Any thoughts??
Hey jack there was a guy I knew that they amputated both of his feet due to diabetes. What they did was put his monitor on his wrist and checked it a little closer when they seen him to make sure he couldn’t take it off
I developed type 2 diabetes while on probation. Had to have surgery to amputate part of my foot, because of the surgery MRIs the hospital per, probation came and placed the monitor on my wrist.
https://ctmirror.org/2023/08/10/its-time-to-reform-the-ct-sex-offense-registry/
Good article
More more good news https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/registry-to-life-sentence-tn-courts-remove-dozens-from-sex-offender-registry-after-successful-legal-challenges
Good article. The woman opposed to the subjects removal, uses the same/similar argument that the person victimized is always a victim.
Obviously not true for all of us on the registry. But does anyone or FAC have a better argument to counter that sentiment? I don’t know how to counter that. I don’t have a victim, but I have made amends for my actions to my wife, family and the few friends that didn’t disappear.
BWJ’s ‘the victim will always be a victim’ has three flaws.
First is that, telling a survivor that they will always be a victim is usually counterproductive to their recovery.
Second, different victims are different. Some suffer for life, while others recover, especially with proper counseling.
And third is that, even if ‘they will always be a victim’ is true, when that argument is used to justify the registry, then that is an argument for punishment. It’s an argument we can have a legitimate debate about (how much punishment is the right amount?), but it has nothing to do with public safety. It’s at least a more honest justification for registries than we often hear from our lawmakers.
So BWJ raises an important question.
They like the idea that the victim will always be a victim so they can justify they’re once a sex offender always a sex offender agenda
Notice that the purported victim advocates never celebrate (and even demonize, in some cases) recovered victims and claim the targets of their advocacy get worse every year despite their efforts (which should bring their approach into question, but never does). I bet far more sex crime victims recover from their ordeals than the purported advocates will ever admit.
Make no mistake – the last thing sex crime victim advocates want is a recovered victim. They’ve created the notion that sex crime victims are entitled to a lifetime of coddling and being denied what they want is somehow a “slap in the face.”
I think it’s more along the lines of justifying their advocacy and gives a abasis to solicit more funding for it. As is so often the case, follow the money.
Another point for you is a victim of sexual abuse becomes an abuser. The victim became the perpetrator they coddle until they can demonize oh the irony
Just sayin – That is a fact they do not want to admit. I saw that in ADTC as 70% were abused as a child.
I reached out Levi Ismail who did the piece and thanked him for being objective and fair. Also pointed out the advocates untrue statement that released PFRs will just “do it again”. Mr. Ismail has done a similar piece on Thomas last year that I recommend checking out. It was linked in this article.
More good news Lifetime GPS in Wisconsin ruling
https://captimes.com/news/government/wisconsin-releases-sex-offenders-from-gps-bracelets-after-court-ruling/article_f399b2d4-3250-530d-964f-798eef014db5.html
I was an OTR trucker an was always wondering if FDLE or LCSO were using my phone as a GPS tracker on me. Good luck now cause I don’t want a cell phone.
I don’t see why we can’t use this case as precedent https://www.npr.org/2023/08/04/1192295228/mississippi-felon-voting-law-blocked
It’s no different than Florida.
I received my passport today. My attorney had my last passport and he lost it. So he paid me to get a new one and in June I sent in all the necessary documents along with the fee for expedited service.
No SO markings. My offense happened with an adult however I was still concerned my PP would be marked.
https://www.hernandosun.com/2023/08/04/update-revisions-made-to-hernando-county-sex-offender-and-sexual-predator-ordinance/
Seems we’re fighting back.
Allocco said the need for the changes was brought to his attention after he was contacted by several people who were seeking clarification so they did not run afoul of the ordinance. “They are just trying to do the right thing,” he said.
Before seeking the changes, Allocco said he conducted an experiment to test the ordinance’s language. Allocco asked one of the concerned parties to contact the Sheriff’s Office to ask a specific question concerning the ordinance. He said the person was told that the answer wasn’t clear and they should contact an attorney. Allocco said he then called and asked the same question to a different person in the Sheriff’s Office and got the same answer. It became apparent that the wording in the ordinance wasn’t clear enough.
When people want to obey the law but can’t understand it without a lawyer, and law enforcement doesn’t understand it either, it’s a problem. It’s not fair to the people, and it’s not fair to law enforcement officers,” Allocco said.
What’s the point of posting here? I either get fact checked or my post is not published. What rules did I violate with this post? No moderation? Not publishing at all is censorship.
“Public school janitor gets sweetheart deal for raping a child. Only 51 months prison followed by 10 years of SO probation. Meanwhile, CP offenders with no “hands-on” victims get decades or a life sentence in
prison. SMH”
[Moderator’s note: we do our best not to drag individual offenders’ names through the mud unless it is necessary to demonstrate a larger legal issue. It’s true that some CP cases get more time than some hands-on offenses due to the latter being harder to prove and subject to more favorable plea deals. We also know that sentencing in general can be all over the map, for a variety of reasons. From a 27-video clip, we don’t know the legal specifics, but we do know the perpetrator’s name and face, so we left it out, but people can google it].
It would be funny if someone one showed up and asked him how many were on the registry in you operations q and a session. https://westorlandonews.com/volusia-community-parent-meetings-on-internet-predators/
I didn’t think about officials seeing this and taking action, and I apologize. Could my post above and the responses (including this one) be deleted, please?
Reply to moderator: Thank you for your comments. As much as I would like to help people with this problem, you are absolutely correct. In the four years I have been active with FAC, every county in Florida that has enacted harsher SO ordinances has done so because the surrounding counties had such ordinances, and they were afraid that if they did not follow suite, the registrants would start pouring into their county. This is exactly what recently happened in Hernando Co.
No county that I now of has enacted a SO ordinance because of an increase in sex crimes by people on the registry. It is always to try to force them out of their county, i.e., banishment.
Orange or osceola county
I am in need of the email addresses for the Hillsborough Co Commissioners. All I can find are the online forms you can fill out. Thank you.
Commissioner Harry Cohen:
Commissioner Ken Hagan (Chair):
Commissioner Gwen Myers (Vice Chair):
Commissioner Michael Owen:
Commissioner Donna Cameron Cepeda:
Commissioner Pat Kemp:
Commissioner Joshua Wostal:
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article277428983.html
“The homeless population of Miami Beach was 235 in January, according to the latest count by the Miami-Dade County Homeless Trust, an increase from 167 last August and the city’s highest count in more than a decade. There were 608 homeless people counted in the city of Miami. Those figures account for people living on the street outside of shelters.”
“Miami Beach officials have gone back and forth in recent months with Ron Book, a lobbyist for the city in Tallahassee and the chair of the Miami-Dade Homeless Trust, as Book has requested money from the city to support new permanent housing efforts the trust is pursuing.” The man’s wealthy if he truly cared about the homeless he would be inclined to use his own money to help fund the project instead of buying Lamborghinis and paying off the lawsuits. Ron Book cares nothing about the homeless only about controlling where the live.
Maybe if they actually did away with unconstitutional living restrictions then you would have this https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/investigations/what-did-florida-know-about-a-sexual-predator-camp-did-anyone-tell-the-public/amp/
Does anyone know what the residency restrictions are in Lafayette County? I called the Sherriff’s office two weeks ago and they haven’t bothered to return my call. I can’t find anything on the web.
It’s going to be 30 year’s for me this September 2023 and sad part is I was never supposed to be on here cause the law went into effect that said any new sex offense committed on or after October 1st of 1993 you would have to get your picture taken and register as a sex offender, my charges we September 28th 1993 and on the paperwork from the judge, I have to do 2 years house arrest, 4 years probation and 100 hours of community service, so why the hell am I on this cause I was charged as minor 2 counts Lewd and Lascivious
Hmm, the Federal registry law didn’t go into effect until 9/13/1994 under the VCC. I’m from New Jersey Megans Law I know when the law went into effect as I’m a retroactive Tier 1. You should have had State and Federal Due Process on the civil side if your conviction was before that date. Florida law is 10/01/97 unless you had to register in another state. Here is Federal Ruling on the registry if you were before the law. Federal: 3rd Cir.
E.B. v. Verniero, 119 F. 3d 1077 (3d Cir. 1997)
The Court held that “Due Process” under the State and Federal Constitutional law requires a judicial hearing before public notification can take place.
Wonder if I should just move away from Florida so I can try and enjoy the rest of my life without the stress of this damn Florida registry
It all depends on your state that you were convicted in an then the state where your going to. Florida will not remove you if you leave the state from what I’m told. I’ve had Attorney’s say if you get removed from the state your from then we can see about getting you off the registry here. ( Laughing ) That will cost you 25,000 or more an they still will not. Trust me something big is coming. Were gonna get a big win here about the registry. I’m gonna spank them really hard about it.
My conviction was here in Florida and I like the sound of that getting a big win, can’t wait for something positive to become of this.
It was my understanding that if you were convicted in Flordaa before 10/01/1997 you didn’t have to register. My conviction was in New Jersey under the first Megans Law. Being retroactive by 2 years and them using the Civil Side of the ACT under State and Federal Constitutional Law I was granted “Due Process”. Long story but I was tiered a Level 1 Register Only Not for Public Notification. I moved here in 12/1998 an they made it public. I was screamed at by Local Law Enforcement that her Supreme Court ruled her laws Constitutional and her Supreme Court over rules my Supreme Court. Yeah it’s about to get real ugly for them as I’ve now gone to the FBI with it. You can’t grant Federal “Due Process” hand down a judgement from the courts an then have Law Enforcement take it away 3 years later because they have a new law adding punishment of Public Humiliation onto this ACT. What were looking to find out now is who was at fault. LCSO and or FDLE. Lee County is up shits creek an no paddle that’s for sure.
If you were not on probation on Oct 01, 1997 you do not have to register, unless your case was after Oc 01, 1993 and the court designate you as Predator.
I wasn’t charged as a predator, i was charged as minor with two counts of Lewd & Lascivious and that was on September 28 1997. I was sentenced to 2 years house arrest and 4 years probation and there was no order by the judge to have my picture taken, my probation officer called me in one day and said i had to do this, so there for i complied to avoid any trouble.
California sex management board has approved a “quicker” path for more registrants to get off https://all4consolaws.org/2023/07/casomb-committee-moves-forward-with-proposed-changes-to-tiered-registry-law/ now comes the hard part of someone sponsoring the bill.
Still way to long until you have to deregister but still vastly better than Florida which any sex offense is a life offense. If Florida does implement a committee board we need to fight hard to make sure it’s not over run sex with abuse survivors who see their role to continue the punishment under the guise of safety by still making our avenue off the registry nearly impossible. 30 years is crazy when numerous studies indicate that after 17 years of being in society crime free you have virtually a zero chance of reoffending so why 13 more years of punishment?
Also, it’s been 2 months since all documentation was submitted in the does vs SWEARINGEN case. Does anyone remember how long the judge took to rule in the online internet identifier case. Just trying to get a ball park of how long he takes to decide on case. I would think the longer he takes the more likely it’s to be in our favor, since they have to look at all the statues and see when it became a burden. The expectation being the Alabama case which this is trying to overcome.
Do any of you guys know if we can take our kids to MOSI (Museum of Science and Industry in Tampa by USF)? I know in Hillsborough I can – generally – escort my children to parks and whatnot, BUT MOSI has an on-site “partnership school.” It’s out for summer, so I think that makes it legal for me to take them, but I’m hesitant to even risk it if I’m not absolutely sure. Has anyone been lately or have insight?
More facts? from local News4Jax
Estimated 500,000 predators have become daily threat to children on the internet, new data shows
500,000 is like half of the registry today after 28 years. I think their 500,000 is a bit of an pipe dream they have. Next thing you know they will make it that were not allowed to use the internet at all.
If it really is that concerning, then why is the only thing they can think of to fight it is those stupid stings? How does that solve the supposed problem?
https://www.villages-news.com/2023/07/15/man-jailed-after-allegedly-attempting-to-use-pickup-to-run-over-sex-offender/
Hopefully the man does not escape justice.
How many times can they use the term sex
Offender in one article….jeez
The source is the Villages-news, which has a decidedly right wing bent. They claim to moderate the people who post comments, but that is not the case.
Remember to register people. https://www.fox26houston.com/news/fort-bend-county-sex-offender-registration-brian-walker.amp
60 years tho crazy.
60 years for failing to register is way above federal guidelines. This will get over tuned in the appellate court but it will take a few years to do. In some ways it’s a good thing to show how far of an over reach they have gone.
I think he was convicted in a Texas state court, not a federal one. In Texas, the maximum punishment for failure to register is based on the level of the underlying offense. If his Texas offense was a first-degree felony, a sentence of up to 99 years is legal. As far as whether that’s constitutional, that’s up to the appellate courts to decide. However, if it’s true that they gave him the chance to register before charging him and he refused, I don’t think the courts will have much pity for him.
I’m not sure what Texas laws are. But they seem pretty extreme. I’d tell anyone don’t refuse to register but say your registering under protest. Oh they hate that but there is nothing they can do. I’ve been told “GET OUT” when I did but they can’t enforce it. When they ask why tell them your Constitutional rights are being violated. Nothing more nothing less. It’s coming. The proof is going to be there soon enough. No, I’m not gonna take one for the team an be quieted down as we have a long way to go. I will fight for reform an sensible laws not abolish them. Megan a 7 year old gave her life for these laws I will not fight against that. I am going to give them one hell of a shiner an I have a bad feeling it’s gonna become big national news cause they gonna have a lot of questions. When it comes out where I’m from at the time in 1992-1993 who my Judge and Prosecutor were OMG are they gonna have a cow.
https://www.courthousenews.com/8th-circuit-oks-conditions-in-embattled-minnesota-sex-offender-program/
Somehow indefinite custody is legal.
How did the registry protect:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-ag-calls-on-mark-zuckerberg-stop-human-traffickers-abusing-meta-platforms-public-safety-threat.amp
Gee Ashley Moody if you found “146 of the 271 reported instances of social media platform use in human trafficking were attributable to Meta platforms” over half and registered citizens are not on these platforms if safe to say these safeguards are not working.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/2023/07/10/disgraced-sports-doctor-larry-nassar-stabbed-multiple-times-at-florida-federal-prison-ap-sources/
https://meaww.com/larry-nassar-stabbing-security-at-coleman-ii-prison-with-over-1-200-inmates-under-scrutiny-after-attack-on-disgraced-doctor
“The prison’s security has come under scrutiny after it was revealed that the attack occured after an altercation with another inmate broke in the cell.” So it was not a fight like previous reported but a pre plan attempted murder charge.
“one of the officers in Nassar’s unit was working a third straight shift, 16-hour a day while another officer was on a second straight shift during the attack. “”The staff are pretty much exhausted. They’re beat down. You cannot run a prison with that many vacancies and expect us to protect and secure those inmates,”
If you can’t provide basic services to the ones in custody, the officers should be in custody then. So the inmate just broke into the man cell, I guess he used a spoon and fork to tunnel into his cell or was the more likely reasoning the guard buzz open the door.
I have to believe that there is more to this story than what’s been reported. The union that represents the COs at Coleman have been complaining about the working conditions for awhile.
If you “forget” your child in a hot car, you are not a “loving, responsible parent.” If the child dies, as five already have in Floriduh this year, you are a murderer. Gravy Jugg got it right this one time:
18-month-old is fifth Florida child to die in a hot car this year
Can you imagine the outrage if registered citizens had killed or assaulted five children halfway through the year? There would be a special session of the legislature with calls for mass arrest, detention, and castration!
https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/national_news/editorial-desantis-has-yet-to-explain-why-just-20-ex-felons-were-singled-out-on/article_d819ffdb-0183-5a08-8c0e-9ee1146f5eca.html
I still can’t wrap my head around how you can offer voting rights for most felons but not all felons, how is this legal? I’m barred from voting based on being on a civil regulatory scheme which is not punishment according to lawsuits, however it’s the only thing preventing us from voting.
You can’t vote if you’re on the registry how is that not proof that the registry is not used as a form of punishment. They are using something that is supposed to be used for a guise as public safety as the sole blanket exclusion criteria. So how can they possibly correlate public safety with voting rights? People who commit a sex offense and murders lose their voting rights but all other felons get a pass?
AMENDMENT XIV
“nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
It says “nor deny equal protection under the law” so how is it legal to discriminate against two categories.
When Amendment 4 was being supported by the ACLU there was a telephone / online conference where the ACLU was touting how great this bill would be once passed into law. I asked the person leading the conference call why specifically were two specific groups being excluded from the amendment. I was told for two specific reasons. 1. The chances of getting the amendment passed were much higher with the two groups excluded. 2. Once the amendment was passed into law, the ACLU would then sue the State of FL to have the remaining two groups included into the fold so that ALL felons would have an equal chance to vote. I tried to introduce some facts into the conversation and i was disconnected from the conversation. So much for the ACLU stand of representing the unrepresented. To my knowledge, the ACLU has not attempted to address the two groups excluded from getting voting rights restored… oh thats right, the State of FL changed the rules one the majority of FL voters said YES, Reinstate the Vote. Go figure, FL change the rules? I will step off my soap box.
But the registry was supported to protect children https://news.siu.edu/2023/07/07623-SIU-researchers-team-advocates-for-new-assessment-treatment-approach-for-juvenile-sex-offenders.php
Hopefully these science based research approaches spread to the south.
Has anyone seen the Florida quarter back got arrested for 5 counts of possession of child porn and distribution of same ? He plead guilty to 2 charges of disorderly conduct and given probation and no registry !!! His lawyer said it was a fair deal. For who ? If it was any of us that would not happen we would be in prison and marked for life. It was on 12 news
Yeah, when this story first came out, I read that one of the photos depicted what was thought to be a girl under the age of 13 engaging in sexual activity with a grown man. I kind of expected this outcome, though. America loves its athletes!
Is it really in our best interest to want to drag this young man down into the Hell where we were cast? Would it not be much better to be happy for him. I say good for him.
Bobby , it’s not about bringing this young man down the problem is the hypocrisy of the situation we get 5 ,10,20 years in prison and put on the registry for life but because of who he is and who his family know he don’t get anything
Again I say good for him. Good for anyone that gets a sentence closer to what this stupid made up crime should require. If more people got similar sentences then people might just see this for what it is . More outrageous sentences like ours only strengthen the public opinion that this is such a terrible crime
Don’t worry Bobby…those with money and power have always been above the law, that is nothing new.
However, to be glad about the inequality applied to some over others is NOT something to be happy about. You simply support the status quo.