SBA Loans offer resources for small business owners… except sex offenders.
A member pointed something out that we were not aware of, but in times of crisis (such as we are in), becomes critical to businesses.
The US Small Business Administration (SBA) provides small businesses with low interest loans to help recover from disasters, including the present financial disaster that is caused by the Coronavirus outbreak. The loans can save companies and their employees from going under during these difficult times. The SBA is here to save small businesses… unless they are owned by a person required to register as a sex offender! They are ineligible.
To qualify for loans from institutions participating in the small business lending fund, businesses must certify that none of their principals has been convicted of, or pleaded no contest to, a sex offense against a minor. (Annually, until the Redemption Date, a participating institution must certify to Treasury that for each loan originated by the institution or any of its affiliates that was funded in whole or in part using SBLF funds, the institution has obtained from the business to which it made such loan a written certification that no principal of such business has been convicted of a sex offense against a minor (as such terms are defined in section 111 of the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act, 42 U.S.C. §16911). These certifications must be retained by the institution in accordance with standard record keeping practices established by the appropriate federal banking agency)
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At what point does this registry scam get legally recognized for the government-sanctioned license to openly discriminate against persons forced to register? At what point do the unscrupulous people in black judicial cassocks fully admit the truth? Ever? This is so blatant. Everything in this country just about has this caveat…’EXCEPT FOR SEX OFFENDERS’.
Your Honor? Nothing honorable about a scumbag in a black robe who does every kind of legal contortion possible to uphold this government-sanctioned call to discrimination called “the registry”.
Not punishing? Doesn’t impose affirmative restraints? Let these liars in black robes live on the registry as a child predator for a decade and then see how they rule!
Courts in an increasing number of states have held that registry is punishment. Courts who previously held otherwise were either looking at milder registration schemes or being told there was a public safety benefit (or both). In Florida, it’s still being litigated.
It is being VIGOROUSLY litigated.
Yes it is, FAC. Every time I read a court filing that is posted here, I am reminded of that fact. So I stand corrected.
Yea I filled out the application this morning and the very last question was about ever being convicted, pleading nolo contendre, serving probation or parole for a crime. I submitted the application with a pit in my stomach. Another added punishment that was not mentioned or explained when I took a deal 22 years ago.
Hey Rob, will you please let us all know how that goes for you? Thanks in advance.
I will follow up with you for sure.
Rob
I don;t know if it will help you but the SBA has a new paycheck protection program and the application is for a small business, even sole proprietorships & self-employed individuals to borrow money to pay your payroll, mortgage interest & utilities. It is a forgivable loan from the SBA & has only a two page simple application form and question 6 asks: within the last 7 years for any felony or misdemeanor crime against a minor have you been convicted, pleaded guilty or placed on probation. So if you are like me with a thirty rear old conviction it should not matter
I don’t have payroll, but do utilities. I did a forbearance on our house loan and I think interest is postponed for the 90 days.
Thanks, I’ll look at the app.
Rob
Not sticking up for them or making excuses, but in that scenario you cannot blame the registry. There are just some things we will face in life because of our convictions regardless if we get removed from the registry. Your / our records will forever follow us unless you get them sealed. I heard very hard to get a sexual crime record sealed.
Deal or no deal, some things are just because we have a felony record. Getting off the registry would be a huge weight off our shoulder, but is not going to magically make our past go away.
“Former sex offenders,” the term used by Jeanne Baker in her televised debate with Ron Book, is by far the most effective term, no?
It is a statistically (95%) accurate description of those listed on the sex offender registry, but without causing confusion and without appearing to throw shade. The public grasps its meaning almost intuitively.
Nah, don’t like it. It is one of the best terms and certainly has some appeal, but I don’t think it’s good overall.
Let’s think about someone who drove drunk and “accidentally” murdered someone. Where I live, last time I looked, that will get you about 7 years in prison. So the person does 5 years and gets out. Maybe a few years of parole. Maybe. What names should we be calling the person 20 years later? “Former murderer”? “Former drunk driver”? “Scumbag”?
I’d say none of those. The person did something terrible. Paid a terrible price. Probably still does. I wasn’t part of the tragedy in the first place. So I should call him/her pejorative names? Especially names that lying, criminal big government uses in a war?
Pick your favorite crime and think of the same thing. Crimes are committed and punishments are paid. Would we call all People Forced to Register “former sex offenders”? Even people with truly trivial crimes that didn’t actually harm anyone?
Nah, I think it’s bad. The crimes are over. The punishment is over. Registries have nothing to do with punishment. There is absolutely no reason to have people on a Registry in the first place and certainly not for trivial crimes DECADES and DECADES later when we can’t even be bothered to Register people who shoot people with guns (and keep them from living near schools, etc.!!).
Registries are separate. They are not punishment. There is no reason to have them. The only common characteristic about the people who are listed on them is that they are PFRs.
And obviously most of the “extra” punishments/harassment/restrictions that come with being a PFR have nothing to do with any sex crime, preventing sex crimes, or being a “former sex offender”. Nearly all of that extra stuff is forced upon PFRs “just because” and in spite of common sense and known facts.
“Former sex offender” looks too sensible as well. Yet there is nothing sensible about it. It is fine if people are confused about PFR. Let’s get people to think and wonder. Let’s get people to recognize PFR. If we don’t, most people are going to keep constantly conflating “sex offender” = “people in prison” = “people on probation/parole” = “people forced to register”.
Only one person out forth the, possible, connection to tax dollars. I do believe the SBA is tax funded. Provided my thinking is correct, then my tax dollars are supporting things that, as a person forced to register, I have no access to. That to me is a form of robbery and a form of discrimination.
I can’t pick and chose what my tax dollars support or I would deny any agency using tax dollars the benefit of mine.
Why should my tax dollars benefit someone’s business, anyway?
The government of the United States has declared war on all persons forced to register.
Should this be unilateral??
Perhaps we should study the Palestinians and their Intifada?
The Intifada got violent, in some cases deadly, so I would resist the temptation to view it as a model. Not to mention that bringing Israeli-Palestinian issues into the discussion might drive away certain people that we want engaged (I realize I already said this about Nazis, I just think there are other ways).
But I would agree that certain representatives of not only the US government, but of state and county governments, are at war (mainly a legal war) with former sex offenders.
It’s nothing more then joinging a price club a man wearing a black dress once said